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Obama era, amateurish botch of the health-care issue
Quote:The whole Obama era to date has been wasted in a historic, amateurish botch of the health-care issue. This began as a crusade for social justice — to cover the uninsured, whose numbers were suitably exaggerated, as most of them are people changing jobs from one health-insuring employer to another, or foreigners resident in this country, legally or otherwise, or the indigent, who are eligible for Medicaid.


None of Barry's numbers add up and now they democrats are strong arming the CBO to slant the analysis to be budget friendly.

The Obama Fiasco

Quote:The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report last week claiming the bill won't add to the deficit. But this assumes that employers who dump employee coverage under the Baucus bill will then increase worker paychecks by an amount equal to what they had spent on health care. This replaces a nontaxable event (providing health insurance) with a taxable one (increasing worker paychecks), magically producing $83 billion in revenues. Without this windfall, the Baucus bill adds billions of dollars to the federal deficit in the first decade.

Well we know the bill is already short $83billion in revenue and that's just one mistake.

Obama Hasn't Closed the Health-Care Sale

The democrat plan is critically flawed.
10-15-2009 06:19 PM
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(10-15-2009 06:19 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
Quote:The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report last week claiming the bill won't add to the deficit. But this assumes that employers who dump employee coverage under the Baucus bill will then increase worker paychecks by an amount equal to what they had spent on health care. This replaces a nontaxable event (providing health insurance) with a taxable one (increasing worker paychecks), magically producing $83 billion in revenues. Without this windfall, the Baucus bill adds billions of dollars to the federal deficit in the first decade.

They must be using some good drugs over there at the CBO. And if the liberal politicians believe that employers will give their employees a raise after they dump their insurance coverage then that will be the first time in history the libs came to believe that big businessed aren't the greedy bastards they've been claiming all along. Funny how a shift in politics can cause a shift in ideology.
10-15-2009 06:28 PM
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I think in the "Final Bill" they will tack on a VAT in addition to the Federal Income Tax to pay for this "Health Care Reform" fiasco.

Go ahead, do it Pelosi.. taxes like this so close to an election is textbook "Political Suicide".... unless you know of something coming down that will prevent the November, 2010 elections...
10-15-2009 06:47 PM
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(10-15-2009 06:19 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  The democrat plan is critically flawed.

You are right, but when did a critical flaw ever stop the Democrats. When they passed the stimulus and budget, Obama promised NO EARMARKS. How did they get away with that critical flaw. You never hear about that now. If it would have been a conservative, It would have been like the Bush "Mission Accomplished" .
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(10-15-2009 07:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-15-2009 06:19 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  The democrat plan is critically flawed.

You are right, but when did a critical flaw ever stop the Democrats. When they passed the stimulus and budget, Obama promised NO EARMARKS. How did they get away with that critical flaw. You never hear about that now. If it would have been a conservative, It would have been like the Bush "Mission Accomplished" .

This is why in a revolution the "radio station" is the first target. They control most of the media and have marginalized what they don't control. Add on top of that the pulsating stupidity of their core supporters and ... well you know.
10-15-2009 07:46 PM
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(10-15-2009 07:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-15-2009 06:19 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  The democrat plan is critically flawed.

You are right, but when did a critical flaw ever stop the Democrats. When they passed the stimulus and budget, Obama promised NO EARMARKS. How did they get away with that critical flaw. You never hear about that now. If it would have been a conservative, It would have been like the Bush "Mission Accomplished" .

Just like when GHB broke his "Read my lips...NO NEW TAXES" promise it was played ad infinitum by the news, but when Obama broke his no taxes on those earning under $250K (or was it $150K, or $200K?...it changed so many times, I forgot) promise...<crickets>.
10-19-2009 11:27 AM
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(10-19-2009 11:27 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(10-15-2009 07:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-15-2009 06:19 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  The democrat plan is critically flawed.

You are right, but when did a critical flaw ever stop the Democrats. When they passed the stimulus and budget, Obama promised NO EARMARKS. How did they get away with that critical flaw. You never hear about that now. If it would have been a conservative, It would have been like the Bush "Mission Accomplished" .

Just like when GHB broke his "Read my lips...NO NEW TAXES" promise it was played ad infinitum by the news, but when Obama broke his no taxes on those earning under $250K (or was it $150K, or $200K?...it changed so many times, I forgot) promise...<crickets>.

Bush lost a second term to Clinton because he went back on his word of No New Taxes. Granted there were other things....

Go here to read Communications Director Anita Dunn : White House boasts: We 'control' news media
10-19-2009 01:08 PM
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(10-15-2009 06:19 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
Quote:The whole Obama era to date has been wasted in a historic, amateurish botch of the health-care issue. This began as a crusade for social justice — to cover the uninsured, whose numbers were suitably exaggerated, as most of them are people changing jobs from one health-insuring employer to another, or foreigners resident in this country, legally or otherwise, or the indigent, who are eligible for Medicaid.


None of Barry's numbers add up and now they democrats are strong arming the CBO to slant the analysis to be budget friendly.

The Obama Fiasco

Quote:The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report last week claiming the bill won't add to the deficit. But this assumes that employers who dump employee coverage under the Baucus bill will then increase worker paychecks by an amount equal to what they had spent on health care. This replaces a nontaxable event (providing health insurance) with a taxable one (increasing worker paychecks), magically producing $83 billion in revenues. Without this windfall, the Baucus bill adds billions of dollars to the federal deficit in the first decade.

Well we know the bill is already short $83billion in revenue and that's just one mistake.

Obama Hasn't Closed the Health-Care Sale

The democrat plan is critically flawed.
03-zzz How much is the health insurance industry paying you and the person who actually wrote that crap?
10-20-2009 03:10 AM
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(10-19-2009 01:08 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-19-2009 11:27 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(10-15-2009 07:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-15-2009 06:19 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  The democrat plan is critically flawed.

You are right, but when did a critical flaw ever stop the Democrats. When they passed the stimulus and budget, Obama promised NO EARMARKS. How did they get away with that critical flaw. You never hear about that now. If it would have been a conservative, It would have been like the Bush "Mission Accomplished" .

Just like when GHB broke his "Read my lips...NO NEW TAXES" promise it was played ad infinitum by the news, but when Obama broke his no taxes on those earning under $250K (or was it $150K, or $200K?...it changed so many times, I forgot) promise...<crickets>.

Bush lost a second term to Clinton because he went back on his word of No New Taxes. Granted there were other things....

Go here to read Communications Director Anita Dunn : White House boasts: We 'control' news media
Do you EVER post anything that isn't from WND(otherwise known as "the rights tinfoil hat news souce on the net". How is that tinfoil hat fitting?
10-20-2009 03:17 AM
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(10-20-2009 03:17 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(10-19-2009 01:08 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-19-2009 11:27 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(10-15-2009 07:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-15-2009 06:19 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  The democrat plan is critically flawed.

You are right, but when did a critical flaw ever stop the Democrats. When they passed the stimulus and budget, Obama promised NO EARMARKS. How did they get away with that critical flaw. You never hear about that now. If it would have been a conservative, It would have been like the Bush "Mission Accomplished" .

Just like when GHB broke his "Read my lips...NO NEW TAXES" promise it was played ad infinitum by the news, but when Obama broke his no taxes on those earning under $250K (or was it $150K, or $200K?...it changed so many times, I forgot) promise...<crickets>.

Bush lost a second term to Clinton because he went back on his word of No New Taxes. Granted there were other things....

Go here to read Communications Director Anita Dunn : White House boasts: We 'control' news media
Do you EVER post anything that isn't from WND(otherwise known as "the rights tinfoil hat news souce on the net". How is that tinfoil hat fitting?

You cannot, (no matter how hard you try, no matter how many times you repeat it), marginalize and discredit an news organization that prints the truth.

Fair minded people can make up their own minds. You...... cannot.

Many other orgs. did pieces on this.
(This post was last modified: 10-20-2009 10:35 AM by SumOfAllFears.)
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(10-20-2009 10:33 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-20-2009 03:17 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(10-19-2009 01:08 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-19-2009 11:27 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(10-15-2009 07:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-15-2009 06:19 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  The democrat plan is critically flawed.

You are right, but when did a critical flaw ever stop the Democrats. When they passed the stimulus and budget, Obama promised NO EARMARKS. How did they get away with that critical flaw. You never hear about that now. If it would have been a conservative, It would have been like the Bush "Mission Accomplished" .

Just like when GHB broke his "Read my lips...NO NEW TAXES" promise it was played ad infinitum by the news, but when Obama broke his no taxes on those earning under $250K (or was it $150K, or $200K?...it changed so many times, I forgot) promise...<crickets>.

Bush lost a second term to Clinton because he went back on his word of No New Taxes. Granted there were other things....

Go here to read Communications Director Anita Dunn : White House boasts: We 'control' news media
Do you EVER post anything that isn't from WND(otherwise known as "the rights tinfoil hat news souce on the net". How is that tinfoil hat fitting?

You cannot, (no matter how hard you try, no matter how many times you repeat it), marginalize and discredit an news organization that prints the truth.

Fair minded people can make up their own minds. You...... cannot.

Many other orgs. did pieces on this.
. 03-lmfao Maybe you cantry posting those "other" orgs? Oh wait, those aren't legit news orgs either, just rightwing propaganda.
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