(10-09-2009 09:47 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(10-09-2009 09:41 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(10-09-2009 09:32 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(10-09-2009 05:33 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  Then again the Nobel Peace Prize these days means about as much as employee of the month.

The difference is that someone like RobertN could win the Nobel Peace Prize, but it's unlikely he'd ever win employee of the month.

What is the nominating process again?

(10-09-2009 07:01 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Maybe he won it because he beat out McCain and the world prefers a democratic US President??

I agree that this is pure partisanship.

I hope everyone else that has been critical of you in the past appreciates your frankness and honesty as much as most Owl fans do.

I would take partial exception to this notion:

(10-09-2009 07:01 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I'm surprised too but you can't blame Obama on this one, folks. This one is squarely on the Nobel committee.

Someone had to nominate him, and ABC said that the nomination was 8 days into his tenure in office. Who in the hell had the hubris to nominate this president at that stage? If it's anything other than The Onion, I do blame them. If it was the whitehouse, then :sylviaplath:

Do you think he will accept the award? If so, he is pure, unadulterated arrogance.

This will come back to bite him on the ass.

Will he accept it? Of course he will. And he'll do it in an hour-long speech where he tells us how deserving he was to win.

How to Win the Nobel Peace Prize In 12 Days


Let’s take a look at the president’s first 12 days in the White House according to his public schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize.

January 20: Sworn in as president. Went to a parade. Partied.

January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an “open house” party at the White House.

January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; re-affirmed Army Field Manual techniques for interrogations; expressed desire to close Gitmo (how’s that working out?)

January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.

January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.

January 25: Skipped church.

January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner's swearing in ceremony.

January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.

January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.

January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.

January 30: Met economic advisers. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.

January 31: Took the day off.

February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.

So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.

Good grief.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/0...prize-win/

Had he reneged on his ethics pledge yet by that point?

The headline on my gmail news feed: How is the Nobel Peace Prize winner decided? It's apparently not lost on people that the presumption of accomplishment appears to be a myth with this prize.

(10-09-2009 09:59 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.

Homer Simpson figured out that skipping church part years ago.

Ahh, I guess life really does imitate art.

The man is pushing his own (adoptive?) country towards civil war. States re-affirming their rights, one after another. Peace prize. What a joke. He's emboldening every tin pot despot, Socialist dictator, and terrorist state to do as they please.

Someone remind me again how close we are to nuke proliferation among terrorists.

http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/nominators.html

Nobel Committee Wrote:Qualified Nominators
The right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize shall, by statute, be enjoyed by:

1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
2. Members of international courts;
3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1) and
7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.
The Nobel Peace Prize may also be awarded to institutions and associations.

I guess you're leisure studies professors could be to blame here, maybe even Sheila Jackson Lee. I thought it was a more narrow group that could be to blame - I guess the heat is off of Jimmy Carter.

I'm listening to this joker on TV and I can't believe it.

"He is ending the war" in Afghanistan?

Notice no teleprompter.

Quote:The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists - the Taliban and Hamas this morning - in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize,” DNC communications director Brad Woodhouse told POLITICO. “Republicans cheered when America failed to land the Olympics and now they are criticizing the President of the United States for receiving the Nobel Peace prize - an award he did not seek but that is nonetheless an honor in which every American can take great pride - unless of course you are the Republican Party.
“The 2009 version of the Republican Party has no boundaries, has no shame and has proved that they will put politics above patriotism at every turn. It’s no wonder only 20 percent of Americans admit to being Republicans anymore - it’s an embarrassing label to claim,” Woodhouse said.

gasping at straws this early in.


Think about the 2012 campaign ads this produces also. Especially if he continues on his accomidation path and all hell breaks lose.

(10-09-2009 11:11 AM)GGniner Wrote:  

Quote:The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists - the Taliban and Hamas this morning - in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize,” DNC communications director Brad Woodhouse told POLITICO. “Republicans cheered when America failed to land the Olympics and now they are criticizing the President of the United States for receiving the Nobel Peace prize - an award he did not seek but that is nonetheless an honor in which every American can take great pride - unless of course you are the Republican Party.
“The 2009 version of the Republican Party has no boundaries, has no shame and has proved that they will put politics above patriotism at every turn. It’s no wonder only 20 percent of Americans admit to being Republicans anymore - it’s an embarrassing label to claim,” Woodhouse said.

+1





Why do Republicans hate America?

That's what I get from this board too. Sour grapes. Look how you guy's acted when we didn't get the Olympics to our country's detriment. Now Obama is recognized for taking a different tack in foreign relations and you guy's say he's selling out American interests. Is peace an American interest? Is the Bush administrations actions in the coalition of the willing in the best interest of America? Here you have an approval rating in the 80's for Obama in Europe and you guys nitpick it. Any rational person feels good for Obama. It's his day.

The GOP is the grey clouds at America's parade. The wet blanket at the campfire with Hershey bars and marshmallows. The ex girlfriend at the class reunion who can't get past the break up. Just an embarassment!

Hamas and the Taliban join the GOP in their outrage over Obama's prize. More proof that Republicans are terrorist.

Beyonce has done more for peace than Obama - Kanye West

Perhaps Obama will win the Noble prize of literature after giving the acceptance speech.

This is just hilarious on so many levels.


and CB, far more of the country indentify as Republicans than 20%, that DNC hack is desperate and pathetic on many levels.

I guess if we aren't "With Obama, we are Against obama"

(10-09-2009 11:50 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Beyonce has done more for peace than Obama - Kanye West

If there was ever a time for Kayne to disrupt an awards ceremony, now is the time. Someone give Kayne West a ticket to the awards!

Gideon Rachman summed it up perfectly in his Financial Times blog:

Gideon Rachman in the Financial Times Wrote:The peace prize committee say that he is being rewarded for his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy”. But while it is OK to give school children prizes for “effort” - my kids get them all the time - I think international statesmen should probably be held to a higher standard.

It is also very odd timing. In the next couple of weeks, Obama is likely to yield to the wishes of his generals and to send many thousands more troops to Afghanistan. That will mean he is a wartime president, just as much as Bush or Lyndon Johnson. If Afghanistan ends up being Obama’s Vietnam, giving him the Nobel Peace Prize will look even sillier in a few years time.

And by the way, cb, Hamas praised the awarding of Obama. If you're going to continue your strange insistence that you "stir the pot," you ought to at least know which direction you are stirring.

(10-09-2009 11:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  That's what I get from this board too. Sour grapes. Look how you guy's acted when we didn't get the Olympics to our country's detriment.

So what are we, "unamerican"?

Funny how things never really change.

Quote: Now Obama is recognized for taking a different tack in foreign relations

10.5 days. Be honest Mach.

Quote: and you guy's say he's selling out American interests.

Once again, I guess we're all just unamerican.

Quote:Here you have an approval rating in the 80's for Obama in Europe

Obama doesn't represent Europe.

Once again, how popular was Lloyd Carr in Ohio?

Quote: Any rational person feels good for Obama.

Just saying it doesn't make it so.

This guy was nominated. He actually DID something worthy of the prize. No dice.

Three Cups of Tea is a read worth your time.

(10-09-2009 11:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  That's what I get from this board too. Sour grapes. Look how you guy's acted when we didn't get the Olympics to our country's detriment. Now Obama is recognized for taking a different tack in foreign relations and you guy's say he's selling out American interests. Is peace an American interest? Is the Bush administrations actions in the coalition of the willing in the best interest of America? Here you have an approval rating in the 80's for Obama in Europe and you guys nitpick it. Any rational person feels good for Obama. It's his day.

Mach - if this were three years into his presidency and his diplomatic efforts had shown some results that were then used as the basis for the award, then fine - you'd have a point. I have long held the view that by subverting American interests, Obama has made himself popular abroad - this award and the fact that it is based only on policy objectives bears that out, IMHO.

Brookes and Fort Bend Owls are hardly right wingers, and almost never post hyperbole, and they recognize that this is premature at best, if not farcical.

(10-09-2009 12:07 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  This guy was nominated. He actually DID something worthy of the prize. No dice.

Three Cups of Tea is a read worth your time.

That's a really good suggestion - I remember hearing of him elsewhere. I just knocked out three items off my Christmas list with the adult-youth-child version of that book. At least that channels my frustration in a constructive way.

(10-09-2009 07:01 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I'm surprised too but you can't blame Obama on this one, folks. This one is squarely on the Nobel committee.
Maybe he won it because he beat out McCain and the world prefers a democratic US President?? IDK why he got it but it's probably not a good thing for America since Obama's ego will be stroked and lord knows, he already thinks he is the best president since Lincoln.

As I said on the Rice board, thanks for being honest.