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Americans too racist for Socialism; Whites Oppose Programs for Blacks & Hispanics
Cass Sunstein: Americans too racist for socialism

Defends communism, welfare state but says 'white majority' oppose programs aiding blacks, Hispanics


Posted: October 07, 2009 10:35 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein 2009 WorldNetDaily

JERUSALEM – The U.S. should move in the direction of socialism but the country's "white majority" opposes welfare since such programs largely would benefit minorities, especially blacks and Hispanics, argued President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein.

"The absence of a European-style social welfare state is certainly connected with the widespread perception among the white majority that the relevant programs would disproportionately benefit African Americans (and more recently Hispanics)," wrote Sunstein.

The Obama czar's controversial comments were made in his 2004 book "The Second Bill of Rights," which was obtained and reviewed by WND.

In the book, Sunstein openly argues for bringing socialism to the U.S. and even lends support to communism.

"During the Cold War, the debate about [social welfare] guarantees took the form of pervasive disagreement between the United States and its communist adversaries. Americans emphasized the importance of civil and political liberties, above all free speech and freedom of religion, while communist nations stressed the right to a job, health care, and a social minimum."

Continued Sunstein: "I think this debate was unhelpful; it is most plausible to see the two sets of rights as mutually reinforcing, not antagonistic."

Sunstein claims the "socialist movement" did not take hold in the U.S. in part because of a "smaller and weaker political left or lack of enthusiasm for redistributive programs."

He laments, "In a variety of ways, subtle and less subtle, public and private actions have made it most difficult for socialism to have any traction in the United States."

Sunstein wants to spread America's wealth

WND first reported Sunstein penned a 2007 University of Chicago Law School paper in which he debated whether America should pay "justice" to the world by entering into a compensation agreement that would be a net financial loss for the U.S. He argues it is "desirable" to redistribute America's wealth to poorer nations.

A prominent theme throughout Sunstein's 39-page paper, entitled "Climate Change Justice" and reviewed by WND, maintains U.S. wealth should be redistributed to poorer nations. He uses terms such as "distributive justice" several times. The paper was written with fellow attorney Eric A. Posner.

"It is even possible that desirable redistribution is more likely to occur through climate change policy than otherwise, or to be accomplished more effectively through climate policy than through direct foreign aid," wrote Sunstein.

He posited: "We agree that if the United States does spend a great deal on emissions reductions as part of an international agreement, and if the agreement does give particular help to disadvantaged people, considerations of distributive justice support its action, even if better redistributive mechanisms are imaginable.

"If the United States agrees to participate in a climate change agreement on terms that are not in the nation's interest, but that help the world as a whole, there would be no reason for complaint, certainly if such participation is more helpful to poor nations than conventional foreign-aid alternatives," he wrote.

Sunstein maintains: "If we care about social welfare, we should approve of a situation in which a wealthy nation is willing to engage in a degree of self-sacrifice when the world benefits more than that nation loses."

Sunstein proposed 'socialist' bill of rights

In "The Second Bill of Rights," WND also reported, Sunstein proposed a new "bill of rights" in which he advanced the radical notion that welfare rights, including some controversial inceptions, be granted by the state. Among his mandates:


The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;


The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;


The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;


The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;


The right of every family to a decent home;


The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;


The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;


The right to a good education.
On one page in his book, Sunstein claims he is "not seriously arguing" his bill of rights be "encompassed by anything in the Constitution," but on the next page he states that "if the nation becomes committed to certain rights, they may migrate into the Constitution itself."

Later in the book, Sunstein argues that "at a minimum, the second bill should be seen as part and parcel of America's constitutive commitments."

WND has learned that in April 2005, Sunstein opened up a conference at Yale Law School entitled "The Constitution in 2020," which sought to change the nature and interpretation of the Constitution by that year.

Sunstein has been a main participant in the movement, which openly seeks to create a "progressive" consensus as to what the U.S. Constitution should provide for by the year 2020. It also suggests strategy for how liberal lawyers and judges might bring such a constitutional regime into being.

Just before his appearance at the conference, Sunstein wrote a blog entry in which he explained he "will be urging that it is important to resist, on democratic grounds, the idea that the document should be interpreted to reflect the view of the extreme right-wing of the Republican Party."
10-08-2009 12:25 AM
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RE: Americans too racist for Socialism; Whites Oppose Programs for Blacks & Hispanics
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And this is the CLOWN that is fighting for Legislation that would give Bunny Rabbits and other animals their very own Attorney's, their Day In Court, and the Bunny Rabbit would be allowed to testify against Human Beings at the Trial.

Yeah, this is a real hip dude that we all need to learn as much as we can from.

I guess he is pizzed at his parents for naming him Cass Sunstein and he is trying to take it out on us all.

We would not have even tried to put up with this crap 20 years ago and now we have an entire generation embracing it with gusto.

Who is the more foolish, the Fool or the Fool that Follows Him ?????

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Quote:"The absence of a European-style social welfare state is certainly connected with the widespread perception among the white majority that the relevant programs would disproportionately benefit African Americans (and more recently Hispanics)," wrote Sunstein.

I never thought about it before, but when it comes to minorities benifitting more than whites he's probably right, but it's racism that put minorities in a more needy situation than whites? All those illegals come to this country with a fortune and don't rely on free benefits, right? We planned it this way because we're all racists - even the ones who voted for The O. Did this bone head even consider how many whites voted for a minority?

It's always about race.
10-08-2009 12:41 PM
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How in the He!! did this guy, Cass Sunstein, get confirmed by the senate. This guy is so way out and has billions to dictate his policies with the full "advice and consent" of Congress.

We are living in a nightmare. Where are the sane people? What have we done?
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(10-08-2009 03:23 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  How in the He!! did this guy, Cass Sunstein, get confirmed by the senate. This guy is so way out and has billions to dictate his policies with the full "advice and consent" of Congress.

We are living in a nightmare. Where are the sane people? What have we done?

At the risk of incurring a severe tongue-lashing from Devil Grad, how f'n stupid are all of these Harvard Law people?

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I believe in helping the helpless.

I also believe the worthless can rot.

By all means, that includes the white worthless.

Does that make me racist?
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(10-11-2009 08:39 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I believe in helping the helpless.

I also believe the worthless can rot.

By all means, that includes the white worthless.

Does that make me racist?

Define the helpless and the worthless. It's subjective.
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(10-08-2009 04:37 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(10-08-2009 03:23 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  How in the He!! did this guy, Cass Sunstein, get confirmed by the senate. This guy is so way out and has billions to dictate his policies with the full "advice and consent" of Congress.

We are living in a nightmare. Where are the sane people? What have we done?

At the risk of incurring a severe tongue-lashing from Devil Grad, how f'n stupid are all of these Harvard Law people?

What is in the water at Cambridge!? 03-banghead

Remember that GRAD described at least some of Sunstein's views as "too conservative" in another thread.

Perhaps GRAD thinks of Sunstein as a right wing nut. He'd be correct about the wing nut part of that.
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(10-11-2009 09:58 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(10-11-2009 08:39 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I believe in helping the helpless.

I also believe the worthless can rot.

By all means, that includes the white worthless.

Does that make me racist?

Define the helpless and the worthless. It's subjective.

I would define it as the helpless being those who are physically or mentally unable to work in their fields. Temporarily helpless include those in situations where they really are in between jobs.

The worthless are those without the desire to even gain the skills for work.
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RE: Americans too racist for Socialism; Whites Oppose Programs for Blacks & Hispanics
Of those three "races", who pays the most taxes? After you answer that, where will the funding for those programs come from?

Does race play a part in this? Sure. Does the fact that most people who work hard don't like to be taxed so the government can give their money to people who take advantage of the system by being drains on society? Absolutely, and it has more to do with their opposition to those programs than race.
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I believe in helping those that are trying to help themselves. I believe that those that are lazy and not doing anything should remain that way without getting assistance.
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^I agree.

The problem with a lot of govt programs is that they largely reward those who are lazy and irresponsible. Its a shame because it takes away from people who honestly need the help.
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