How much college experience did Pete Carroll have before taking over at USC?

The only two things about the situation that arise my curiosity are:

1. I've seen his salary with the Bucs as listed from somewhere between $4 million and $5 million a year. That's a lot of money for his services. Even if UL comes up with an offer of 2.5 million as I think others have suggested, that's still fairly low compared to what he was getting just a year ago and what he could command at the NFL level.

2. It's a well known fact that his playbook is the size of a dictionary. It's pretty much one of the most advanced even in the NFL. It would never work in college where I think more teaching is done on the fundamentals than X's and O's. But he's definitely a smart guy so I would assume he'd know that.

He is a hard working guy and loves football so it would be interesting to see how he'd turn out. It'd be neat for USF to get a chance to beat him.

Pete Carroll
College player -- 1969 - '72
College coaching -- 1978 - '83
NFL coaching -- 1984 - '99
College HC - 2001 - present

Jon Gruden
College player -- 1981 - '84
College coaching -- 1986 - '89
NFL coaching -- 1990 - '08

Neither had been head coaches in college. And if Gruden gets a coaching job then he and Carroll would have sat out a year of coaching before taking their college jobs.

(10-07-2009 11:30 AM)mlb Wrote:  How much college experience did Pete Carroll have before taking over at USC?

About 10 years in the 70s-80s

http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footb...ete00.html

Grad Assistant at Pacific and Arkansas
Secondary coach at Iowa St. at Ohio St.
D-Coordinator at NC State <---------- Monte Kiffin, father of Lane, was the HC at NC State.
O-Coordinator at Pacific

Taking over at USC is a wee bit different than taking over at Louisville.

I have a hard time believing that John Gruden would've turned down Tennessee this year only to take the Louisville job this year for less money.

(10-07-2009 12:11 PM)MichaelSavage Wrote:  Taking over at USC is a wee bit different than taking over at Louisville.

Plus, USC Football Head Coach pay scale is actually very close to what many NFL HC's receive...and probably a lot more than what UL will spend on a Football HC.

Gruden could get $5 Million plus per year in the NFL next year...and while I think he would be a good choice for UL...the $$$$ that many NFL teams are willing to throw out there...that's tough to beat...unless you are one of the top/richest college football programs in the land (i.e. UF, USC, Oklahoma, Michigan, etc...).

(10-07-2009 11:30 AM)mlb Wrote:  How much college experience did Pete Carroll have before taking over at USC?

You could say the same about Jim Tressel of Ohio State. He came straight from high school. I know many OSU fans wish he'd stayed there, due to their BCS futility. But he's been fairly successful - without any college experience prior to his arrival in Columbus...

(10-07-2009 02:28 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-07-2009 11:30 AM)mlb Wrote:  How much college experience did Pete Carroll have before taking over at USC?

You could say the same about Jim Tressel of Ohio State. He came straight from high school. I know many OSU fans wish he'd stayed there, due to their BCS futility. But he's been fairly successful - without any college experience prior to his arrival in Columbus...

Umm...Tressel was head coach at Youngstown St. when they won four I-AA national titles.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coachin...achid=2357

DOH!!! :homer:

(10-07-2009 02:28 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-07-2009 11:30 AM)mlb Wrote:  How much college experience did Pete Carroll have before taking over at USC?

You could say the same about Jim Tressel of Ohio State. He came straight from high school. I know many OSU fans wish he'd stayed there, due to their BCS futility. But he's been fairly successful - without any college experience prior to his arrival in Columbus...

He didn't come from HS. He came from Youngstown State, D1-AA. He had won a bunch of national titles at that level as well.

Oops... should have read further down that list.

The above reasons are exactly why I say it's wishful thinking on some UofL fans part thinking Gruden would accept a position with the Cards. (Not mine because I don't believe he is the best choice for our program.) I respect the fact the man is a workaholic but aside from that I believe he's ill prepared to coach college football.
CJ

(10-07-2009 02:12 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  I have a hard time believing that John Gruden would've turned down Tennessee this year only to take the Louisville job this year for less money.

Gruden was still Tampa coach and didn't have a clue yet about being fired. They were after him during the middle of the season, by hte time Gruden was fired Kiffin was named coach already.

(10-07-2009 02:35 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  DOH!!! :homer:

Wouldn't worry about it. Some college coaches came from the high school ranks, like Todd Dodge at North Texas.

There's also the epic fail that Gerry Faust had at Notre Dame, coming directly from Cincy-Moeller HS.

(10-07-2009 02:41 PM)mlb Wrote:  Oops... should have read further down that list.

Been there, done that...

(10-06-2009 09:06 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  In town twice in the last month including today.

Was he wearing a big east shirt? Oh wait that was Memphis.

I sold him a goat for his new farm in Spencer County, Kentucky. He fatting up the goat for a team BBQ!

(10-07-2009 05:23 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:   I sold him a goat for his new farm in Spencer County, Kentucky. He fatting up the goat for a team BBQ!

That goat is clearing the land for him while he waits for the slaughter...

The only goats in this will be the Louisville fans that think Gruden is coming to Louisville.
CJ

Unless he comes to Louisville, in which case all the goats are in the stands...