Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Democrats Mired in Chaos, Confusion Over Healthcare Bill -- Mission Impossible
Author Message
SumOfAllFears Offline
Grim Reaper of Misguided Liberal Souls
*

Posts: 18,213
Joined: Nov 2008
Reputation: 58
I Root For: America
Location:
Post: #1
Democrats Mired in Chaos, Confusion Over Healthcare Bill -- Mission Impossible
Democrats Mired in Chaos, Confusion Over Healthcare Bill

Monday, October 5, 2009 10:55 AM


Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine is virtually the only Republican seen as a possible "yes" vote on the healthcare bill. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will need to bring her along every step of the way if he has any chance of pulling in Democratic moderates. (AP Photo)


Having long abandoned negotiations with the GOP, Senate Democrats are facing a civil war between their right and left wings over healthcare reform. Give up government-managed healthcare, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will lose his liberal base. But if he embraces it, he’ll lose moderates and conservative blue dog Democrats, not to mention the lone Republican under his wing: Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe.

[Image: snowereidhealthfinal.jpg]Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine (left) is virtually the only Republican seen as a possible "yes" vote on the healthcare bill. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will need to bring her along every step of the way if he has any chance of pulling in Democratic moderates. (AP Photo)

WASHINGTON -- Forget mission accomplished. Try mission seemingly impossible.


With the Senate Finance Committee on the verge of approving a sweeping health overhaul bill as early as Tuesday, the path might appear open for action by the full Senate.


Not so fast.

First the Finance Committee bill must be combined with a more liberal version that the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee wrapped up this summer. Such a merger is so rare that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has never attempted it on any piece of legislation _ much less one as complex as President Barack Obama's top legislative priority.


Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., had a one-word description of Reid's task: "Tough."


Said Democratic Sen. Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico: "He's on the hot seat."


"I don't even want to think about it," said Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D. "What a daunting challenge."


Everything about health overhaul legislation seems to be unusually complicated, but this process is particularly so because of the disparities between the bills and Obama's goal of keeping the cost at $900 billion over 10 years. Reid won't go it alone; he will get some help from the White House and the committee chairmen.


"It's not going to be one silver bullet," Reid said. "There isn't any one thing, there are lots of things we're going to have to work on."


These two bills diverge on some of the thorniest issues, perhaps most notably on the question of whether the government should sell insurance to compete with private industry. The health committee bill has the government-run plan; the finance bill does not.


The health committee bill offers more generous subsidies to low-income people to help them buy coverage than the finance committee bill.


The finance committee bill proposes a new tax on high-value health insurance plans that the health committee bill doesn't include.


The health committee bill would require employers to offer coverage to their workers or pay a tax penalty. The finance bill has no such requirement, although it would levy a charge on businesses whose workers end up getting government subsidies.


Reid must resolve all those issues and more over the next week or so to come up with a single bill to bring to the Senate floor. In its broad contours, the legislation would expand coverage to about 95 percent of Americans with a new requirement for individuals to purchase insurance. The costs would be borne partly by hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts in projected Medicare and Medicaid spending. Policies would be available _ for those who have coverage and those who don't _ through so-called insurance exchanges.


But many of the details are unresolved and it's Reid's job to decide. Every step of the way he must ensure that the choices he's making keep 60 senators happy, or at least on board. That's how many votes it takes to avoid a bill-killing filibuster by Republicans in the 100-member Senate.


Any one change could lose a senator, and losing even one could be fatal.


Move too far to the left and a moderate Democrat like Ben Nelson of Nebraska could rebel. Too far to the right, and a liberal like Ron Wyden of Oregon could be alienated.


And then there's perhaps the most important senator of all, Olympia Snowe of Maine, virtually the only Republican seen as a possible "yes" vote on the health care bill. Reid will need to bring her along every step of the way.


The process has already started in the congressional and White House staffs. Beginning this week it will shift into high gear with Reid personally involved with a handful of key senators including Finance Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., health committee chairman Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., who led the health committee consideration of the overhaul bill.


Snowe is expected to be closely consulted, and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel likely will participate in the meetings. They'll meet in Reid's stately office on the second floor of the Capitol and elsewhere. Obama will likely call wavering Democrats and shore up support, as he did all last week with members of the Finance Committee.


It's still not clear what the product will look like finally, including whether it embraces any version of a government-run plan. Reid has been somewhat equivocal, saying last week: "Before this bill goes to the president's desk, we are going to have some form of a public option in this bill."


Whatever the legislation looks like, it will face a barrage of amendments once it gets to the Senate floor, and it could easily go down in flames like former President Bill Clinton's attempt at a health care overhaul in 1994.

2009 Associated Press.
10-05-2009 06:00 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


TheDancinMonarch Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,638
Joined: Jun 2009
Reputation: 154
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location: Norfolk, VA
Post: #2
RE: Democrats Mired in Chaos, Confusion Over Healthcare Bill -- Mission Impossible
(10-05-2009 06:00 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Democrats Mired in Chaos, Confusion Over Healthcare Bill

Monday, October 5, 2009 10:55 AM


Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine is virtually the only Republican seen as a possible "yes" vote on the healthcare bill. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will need to bring her along every step of the way if he has any chance of pulling in Democratic moderates. (AP Photo)


Having long abandoned negotiations with the GOP, Senate Democrats are facing a civil war between their right and left wings over healthcare reform. Give up government-managed healthcare, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will lose his liberal base. But if he embraces it, he’ll lose moderates and conservative blue dog Democrats, not to mention the lone Republican under his wing: Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe.

[Image: snowereidhealthfinal.jpg]Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine (left) is virtually the only Republican seen as a possible "yes" vote on the healthcare bill. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will need to bring her along every step of the way if he has any chance of pulling in Democratic moderates. (AP Photo)

WASHINGTON -- Forget mission accomplished. Try mission seemingly impossible.


With the Senate Finance Committee on the verge of approving a sweeping health overhaul bill as early as Tuesday, the path might appear open for action by the full Senate.


Not so fast.

First the Finance Committee bill must be combined with a more liberal version that the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee wrapped up this summer. Such a merger is so rare that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has never attempted it on any piece of legislation _ much less one as complex as President Barack Obama's top legislative priority.


Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., had a one-word description of Reid's task: "Tough."


Said Democratic Sen. Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico: "He's on the hot seat."


"I don't even want to think about it," said Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D. "What a daunting challenge."


Everything about health overhaul legislation seems to be unusually complicated, but this process is particularly so because of the disparities between the bills and Obama's goal of keeping the cost at $900 billion over 10 years. Reid won't go it alone; he will get some help from the White House and the committee chairmen.


"It's not going to be one silver bullet," Reid said. "There isn't any one thing, there are lots of things we're going to have to work on."


These two bills diverge on some of the thorniest issues, perhaps most notably on the question of whether the government should sell insurance to compete with private industry. The health committee bill has the government-run plan; the finance bill does not.


The health committee bill offers more generous subsidies to low-income people to help them buy coverage than the finance committee bill.


The finance committee bill proposes a new tax on high-value health insurance plans that the health committee bill doesn't include.


The health committee bill would require employers to offer coverage to their workers or pay a tax penalty. The finance bill has no such requirement, although it would levy a charge on businesses whose workers end up getting government subsidies.


Reid must resolve all those issues and more over the next week or so to come up with a single bill to bring to the Senate floor. In its broad contours, the legislation would expand coverage to about 95 percent of Americans with a new requirement for individuals to purchase insurance. The costs would be borne partly by hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts in projected Medicare and Medicaid spending. Policies would be available _ for those who have coverage and those who don't _ through so-called insurance exchanges.


But many of the details are unresolved and it's Reid's job to decide. Every step of the way he must ensure that the choices he's making keep 60 senators happy, or at least on board. That's how many votes it takes to avoid a bill-killing filibuster by Republicans in the 100-member Senate.


Any one change could lose a senator, and losing even one could be fatal.


Move too far to the left and a moderate Democrat like Ben Nelson of Nebraska could rebel. Too far to the right, and a liberal like Ron Wyden of Oregon could be alienated.


And then there's perhaps the most important senator of all, Olympia Snowe of Maine, virtually the only Republican seen as a possible "yes" vote on the health care bill. Reid will need to bring her along every step of the way.


The process has already started in the congressional and White House staffs. Beginning this week it will shift into high gear with Reid personally involved with a handful of key senators including Finance Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., health committee chairman Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., who led the health committee consideration of the overhaul bill.


Snowe is expected to be closely consulted, and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel likely will participate in the meetings. They'll meet in Reid's stately office on the second floor of the Capitol and elsewhere. Obama will likely call wavering Democrats and shore up support, as he did all last week with members of the Finance Committee.


It's still not clear what the product will look like finally, including whether it embraces any version of a government-run plan. Reid has been somewhat equivocal, saying last week: "Before this bill goes to the president's desk, we are going to have some form of a public option in this bill."


Whatever the legislation looks like, it will face a barrage of amendments once it gets to the Senate floor, and it could easily go down in flames like former President Bill Clinton's attempt at a health care overhaul in 1994.

2009 Associated Press.

We live and hope. Although I don't like that word "hope" as much as I used to.
10-05-2009 10:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.