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Education: proof in the pudding
Plenty of jobs, if you have the right skills

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091004/ap_o...s_unfilled

This is why I rant so much about our current public education and it's continuation into colleges and universities. Most of it's crap.

You can challenge me all day on the relevance of test scores, or how quote some Dept of Ed spokesmodel who claims we're doing alright.

In the end, this is what it's all about. The public is sold on paying for education b/c it has been PROMISED public education would deliver qualified individuals to fill job needs. Period.

It's failing. All of those idiot Sociology or Womyn's Studies Professors? FAIL.

All of those "new math" or "whole language learning" curricula? FAIL. And so do the Professors who espouse this stuff to the next generation of teachers.
10-05-2009 09:41 AM
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You are right. The education system is in full collapse, and the only people that cannot see it are those who are part of it or those that made it the way it is.

Until teachers find a way to get kids to learn to teach themselves it will fail. You have to inspire children to want to learn. It's parents and teachers working together. I say even LOUDER that the parents fail their children, as well. Why, because they are both working as hard as they can, to survive. They have little energy to devote to their children. As long as society care more about productivity at work instead of allowing people to be just human, and good stewards of our offspring, we are, and will remain, in deep sh!t. There are some things in life, IMO, that are more important than making money.
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10-05-2009 11:46 AM
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(10-05-2009 11:46 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  You are right. The education system is in full collapse, and the only people that cannot see it are those who are part of it or those that made it the way it is.

Until teachers find a way to get kids to learn to teach themselves it will fail. You have to inspire children to want to learn. It's parents and teachers working together. I say even LOUDER that the parents fail their children, as well. Why, because they are both working as hard as they can, to survive. They have little energy to devote to their children. As long as society care more about productivity at work instead of allowing people to be just human, and good stewards of our offspring, we are, and will remain, in deep sh!t. There are some things in life, IMO, that are more important than making money.

That's true. Some of this is b/c of the high taxes we pay. Some is b/c parents have bought into the cultural mindset that they need more.

There are telling statistics about how houses have grown in size, even while families have shrunk. And of course if you have that much space, you need to fill it with stuff!

Part of this is b/c women have been taught that they SHOULD work outside the home, whether they want to or not. Many suffer from guilt regardless of what they do. If they work, they feel guilty for not being w/ their kids. If they stay home to raise children, they're guilty for betraying the cause of feminism.

Make no mistake, I put much of that blame on the shoulders of professors who pushed that agenda from the late 1950s on. But, there are plenty of mistakes that have been made.
10-05-2009 12:00 PM
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(10-05-2009 12:00 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(10-05-2009 11:46 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  You are right. The education system is in full collapse, and the only people that cannot see it are those who are part of it or those that made it the way it is.

Until teachers find a way to get kids to learn to teach themselves it will fail. You have to inspire children to want to learn. It's parents and teachers working together. I say even LOUDER that the parents fail their children, as well. Why, because they are both working as hard as they can, to survive. They have little energy to devote to their children. As long as society care more about productivity at work instead of allowing people to be just human, and good stewards of our offspring, we are, and will remain, in deep sh!t. There are some things in life, IMO, that are more important than making money.

That's true. Some of this is b/c of the high taxes we pay. Some is b/c parents have bought into the cultural mindset that they need more.

There are telling statistics about how houses have grown in size, even while families have shrunk. And of course if you have that much space, you need to fill it with stuff!

Part of this is b/c women have been taught that they SHOULD work outside the home, whether they want to or not. Many suffer from guilt regardless of what they do. If they work, they feel guilty for not being w/ their kids. If they stay home to raise children, they're guilty for betraying the cause of feminism.

Make no mistake, I put much of that blame on the shoulders of professors who pushed that agenda from the late 1950s on. But, there are plenty of mistakes that have been made.

Being a Mon is a job greater than any working woman can have. But because they get little respect and no recognition for it, many women are torn, as you say.
10-05-2009 12:22 PM
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