What has the world come to when leaders of supposedly civilized countries take the side of a convicted child rapist who is also a fugitive who never paid for his crime? It would be inconceivable to me that Obama would pardon Polanski but others out here disagree.

Quote:Poland and France will ask the United States to free director Oscar-winning director Roman Polanski from three decade old charges that he had sex with an underage girl, which led to his detention on Sunday, Poland's PAP news agency reported.

The Polish and French foreign ministers Radoslaw Sikorski and Bernard Kouchner discussed the arrest of Polanski -- a French-Polish national -- by telephone and agreed to make a joint approach to the US authorities, PAP reported.

Their ministries will ask US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton "to ask Switzerland to release Roman Polanski, detained pending extradition, and for her to envisage the possibility of a pardon from President Barack Obama," PAP quoted Sikorski as saying.

The director, 76, was arrested on Saturday as he arrived in Switzerland to receive a special award at the Zurich film festival.

US authorities have been pursuing the "Rosemary's Baby", "Chinatown" and "The Pianist" director for many years. The Swiss Justice Ministry said Polanski was being held to await possible extradition to the United States.

Polanski fled the United States in 1978 before sentencing on a charge of unlawful sexual intercourse with a 13-year-old girl. He admitted the charge at the time and has never returned.

A Swiss justice ministry spokesman said Polanski was being held under a 2005 international alert issued by the US government, related to a 1978 arrest warrant.



http://www.hindustantimes.com/rssfeed/eu...58751.aspx

If the girl were 17, maybe I'd agree. 13... not a chance.

He was CONVICTED over 30 years ago on this charge.

There is no longer any issue of doubt, bring him back, sentence him and be done with it.

(09-28-2009 09:34 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  He was CONVICTED over 30 years ago on this charge.

There is no longer any issue of doubt, bring him back, sentence him and be done with it.

.....you also have to add his flight to avoid sentencing. That's another trial.

Although he should get 10 years, his plea deal was for probation, which the judge recanted on. I wish I could remember the facts of the proceedings, but they were a mess IIRC. Judaical Misconduct? ... I just cant remember.

A life sentence watching his own crappy movies. About the fairest thing since we don't execute child rapists.

(09-28-2009 10:41 PM)Paul M Wrote:  A life sentence watching his own crappy movies. About the fairest thing since we don't execute child rapists.

Hold your tongue! The Ninth Gate was an "awesome" movie

This case will say a lot about people. I mentioned a couple times that I frequent a very left message board for the links, but certainly not for the discussion.

Link

Even on that board, the vast majority of posters have no sympathy and most want prosecution.

If you are reading this thread without any background on this case, he not only raped a 13 year old, he drugged her with Quaaludes and served her Champagne to make sure her defenses were down. This guy is sick sick sick.

The Polanski Apologist are telling you alot about themselves and where it is they are taking us right now.

Pedophilia will be rationalized and accepted in our lifetimes if our Secular Humanistic slide continues, which all indications say that it will

(09-28-2009 08:52 PM)mlb Wrote:  If the girl were 17, maybe I'd agree. 13... not a chance.

even so, he still drugged and raped the girl. The age is the second side of it, Rape is rape.

(09-29-2009 08:52 AM)GGniner Wrote:  The Polanski Apologist are telling you alot about themselves and where it is they are taking us right now.

Pedophilia will be rationalized and accepted in our lifetimes if our Secular Humanistic slide continues, which all indications say that it will

P-R-I-E-S-T-H-O-O-D ... put another child rapist into the Priesthood. That will solve everything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polan...conviction

The response should be short and simple. "Send him back to a new prison at Auschwitz to serve a 10 year sentence or return him the the US."

If Obama pardons him, we should petition him to have his girls spend their summers at his villa.

(09-29-2009 09:24 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(09-29-2009 08:52 AM)GGniner Wrote:  The Polanski Apologist are telling you alot about themselves and where it is they are taking us right now.

Pedophilia will be rationalized and accepted in our lifetimes if our Secular Humanistic slide continues, which all indications say that it will

P-R-I-E-S-T-H-O-O-D ... put another child rapist into the Priesthood. That will solve everything.

why?

(09-29-2009 10:18 AM)GGniner Wrote:  

(09-29-2009 09:24 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(09-29-2009 08:52 AM)GGniner Wrote:  The Polanski Apologist are telling you alot about themselves and where it is they are taking us right now.

Pedophilia will be rationalized and accepted in our lifetimes if our Secular Humanistic slide continues, which all indications say that it will

P-R-I-E-S-T-H-O-O-D ... put another child rapist into the Priesthood. That will solve everything.

why?

It's better than just calling you a ******* for your implication that nihilism is synonymous with secular humanism.

(09-29-2009 08:53 AM)GGniner Wrote:  even so, he still drugged and raped the girl. The age is the second side of it, Rape is rape.

Wow, didn't realize that. I figured it was just statutory. No doubt then after that...

Polanski side is saying what? That there was Judaical misconduct. (as if Polanski conduct was acceptable) The Judge was supposed to accept the plea deal for probation, in return for his guilty plea. An irregular arrangement to say the least. He pled guilty to the lesser crime but the deal the prosecutor made (supposely with the Judges approval) was now unacceptable to the judge who was now going to put Polanski in prison, so he fled to France. Fast forward 30 years ..... The Keystone LA cops decide it time to serve a 30+ year old warrant, knowing full well the Polanski antics and the Keystone cops antics are going to be in full review. Oh, the tangled web we weave.....

At some point, If Polanski is brought back he is going to demand a trial, he will have to withdraw his guilty plea. Can he get a fair trial at this point? and how many Hollywood Celebrities are convicted in LA County? Things sure have changed in 30 years.

So we are looking at another plea deal.

(09-29-2009 12:32 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2009 08:53 AM)GGniner Wrote:  even so, he still drugged and raped the girl. The age is the second side of it, Rape is rape.

Wow, didn't realize that. I figured it was just statutory. No doubt then after that...

http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feat...ki_arrest/

the details....

(09-29-2009 12:29 PM)I45owl Wrote:  It's better than just calling you a ******* for your implication that nihilism is synonymous with secular humanism.

For the record, I think Nihilism is the Logical conclusion to be drawn from the Secular Humanistic(or Atheistic Naturalistic) worldview, if its consistent with itself, which 99% of the time it is not, fortunately.

the longer version of what I'm saying is summarized and articulated better here:

http://www.reformedonline.com/view/refor...ecular.htm


as for Polanski apologist, what I'm saying is its just a matter of time before Secular Humanist thinkers decide that there is nothing wrong with Pedophilia, they have no fixed Standard(MOrality) to point towards, its just whatever man picks and chooses by 'consensus' really in a meaningless world devoid of hope and purpose. So the pedophile/rapitst apologist in Hollywood, some Elites, etc is showing that they are headed that way and taking our culture with it. Its what they've been doing for awhile now.

(09-29-2009 01:30 PM)GGniner Wrote:  

(09-29-2009 12:29 PM)I45owl Wrote:  It's better than just calling you a ******* for your implication that nihilism is synonymous with secular humanism.

For the record, I think Nihilism is the Logical conclusion to be drawn from the Secular Humanistic(or Atheistic Naturalistic) worldview, if its consistent with itself, which 99% of the time it is not, fortunately.

the longer version of what I'm saying is summarized and articulated better here:

http://www.reformedonline.com/view/refor...ecular.htm


as for Polanski apologist, what I'm saying is its just a matter of time before Secular Humanist thinkers decide that there is nothing wrong with Pedophilia, they have no fixed Standard(MOrality) to point towards, its just whatever man picks and chooses by 'consensus' really in a meaningless world devoid of hope and purpose. So the pedophile/rapitst apologist in Hollywood, some Elites, etc is showing that they are headed that way and taking our culture with it. Its what they've been doing for awhile now.

I view Christianity and Islam in the same light - standing on their own, they are necessarily nihilistic. The problem is, that the 99% of the people that don't follow these beliefs to their logical conclusion still leaves enough nutcases to fly airplanes into buildings. Each of the scriptures of those two religions document pedophilia and other warped sexual behavior, conspicuously unlike any notion that secular humanists advocate. If you want to gratuitously post nonsense in a non sequitur way to blame secularism in spite of prolific evidence that Christians do bad things - that Christian priests rape kids, Christian ministers cheat on their wives, steal, manipulate, have homosexual sex - then we can drag virtually any discussion down the same ridiculous path of belittling one another's morals and values, in spite of the fact that we both obviously view this as contemptible. Or, I could just take the shortcut and call you a *******. But, your argument here is simply infantile - I'm sure folks all over the world are thankful to you that you are able to decide what some other group of people will decide to advocate at some indeterminate point in the future - modern day Nostradamus that you are.

(09-29-2009 02:48 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(09-29-2009 01:30 PM)GGniner Wrote:  

(09-29-2009 12:29 PM)I45owl Wrote:  It's better than just calling you a ******* for your implication that nihilism is synonymous with secular humanism.

For the record, I think Nihilism is the Logical conclusion to be drawn from the Secular Humanistic(or Atheistic Naturalistic) worldview, if its consistent with itself, which 99% of the time it is not, fortunately.

the longer version of what I'm saying is summarized and articulated better here:

http://www.reformedonline.com/view/refor...ecular.htm


as for Polanski apologist, what I'm saying is its just a matter of time before Secular Humanist thinkers decide that there is nothing wrong with Pedophilia, they have no fixed Standard(MOrality) to point towards, its just whatever man picks and chooses by 'consensus' really in a meaningless world devoid of hope and purpose. So the pedophile/rapitst apologist in Hollywood, some Elites, etc is showing that they are headed that way and taking our culture with it. Its what they've been doing for awhile now.

I view Christianity and Islam in the same light - standing on their own, they are necessarily nihilistic. The problem is, that the 99% of the people that don't follow these beliefs to their logical conclusion still leaves enough nutcases to fly airplanes into buildings. Each of the scriptures of those two religions document pedophilia and other warped sexual behavior, conspicuously unlike any notion that secular humanists advocate. If you want to gratuitously post nonsense in a non sequitur way to blame secularism in spite of prolific evidence that Christians do bad things - that Christian priests rape kids, Christian ministers cheat on their wives, steal, manipulate, have homosexual sex - then we can drag virtually any discussion down the same ridiculous path of belittling one another's morals and values, in spite of the fact that we both obviously view this as contemptible. Or, I could just take the shortcut and call you a *******. But, your argument here is simply infantile - I'm sure folks all over the world are thankful to you that you are able to decide what some other group of people will decide to advocate at some indeterminate point in the future - modern day Nostradamus that you are.

Just because you read an example of such actions in the Bible doesn't mean that God blessed them or doesn't abhor them. They're given as examples of mans shortcomings.

The Bible tells us that since the original sin we live in a fallen world.

To say that Christianity and Islam are alike is just silly.

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(09-29-2009 03:20 PM)Cletus Wrote:  To say that Christianity and Islam are alike is just silly.

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Not just silly, but ludicrous.

Christianity tells us to "Turn the other cheek" when attacked. Islam teaches people to kill the infidels.

Christianity at it's core is Love, that is not what Islam teaches.