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Obama Just Pissed in His Corn Flakes
80% of Jews voted for Obama. Why is anybodies guess. He says Peace without preconditions, then goes into a diatribe outlining what Israel will have to concede.

Obama: U.S. Does Not Recognize 'Legitimacy of Continued Israeli Settlements'

Obama's stark declaration, which drew applause, was coupled with a call for Palestinians to end their "incitement of Israel."

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009

In declaring that it is time for Middle East peace "without preconditions," President Obama used his speech to the U.N. General Assembly Wednesday to fire a warning at Israel that "America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements."

Obama's stark declaration, which drew applause, was coupled with a call for Palestinians to end their "incitement of Israel."

But it was the use of the U.N. forum to carry the settlement message to Israel that drew the most enthusiastic response on the floor -- and incredulous reaction outside its walls.

Obama just put Israel "on the chopping block," said former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton.

Obama said he met Tuesday with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who was not in attendance at the speech, and agreed that the two have made some progress in both strengthening security and facilitating freedom of movement, which have allowed the economy in the West Bank to grow.

But more progress is needed, he said.

"We continue to call on Palestinians to end incitement against Israel, and we continue to emphasize that America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements," he said.

Obama said four issues separate the two sides: security, borders, refugees and Jerusalem, but the goal is clear: a secure, Jewish state for Israel and "a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967."

He also said a new order is needed in dealing with the dispute.

"The United States does Israel no favors when we fail to couple an unwavering commitment to its security with an insistence that Israel respect the legitimate claims and rights of the Palestinians. And nations within this body do the Palestinians no favors when they choose vitriolic attacks over a constructive willingness to recognize Israel's legitimacy, and its right to exist in peace and security," he said.

In his first speech to the world body, Obama applied his campaign slogan to the international community and challenged the global community to step up and fix the world's problems both at home and abroad.

He said it is no longer plausible to be bad actors and then blame the United States.

"The people of the world want change," he said, noting that "just as no nation should be forced to accept the tyranny of another nation, no individual should be forced to accept the tyranny of their own government."

The world's problems are not "solely America's endeavor," Obama said, noting the threats from poverty, global warming, disease pandemics and overpopulation.

"Those who used to chastise America for acting alone in the world cannot now stand by and wait for America to solve the world's problems alone," Obama said.

Obama said he's led by example by prohibiting torture of detainees and ordering the closure of the military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. He added that he is committed to removing all U.S. troops from Iraq by 2011 and is working to reach the goal of "a world without nuclear weapons."

He said the G-20 industrialized nations have spent $2 trillion to keep the world from the brink of an economic collapse, and the U.S. has demonstrated its commitment to the world body by paying its bills and joining the Human Rights Council.

"Nothing is easier than blaming others for our troubles and absolving ourselves of responsibility for our choices and our actions. Anyone can do that. Responsibility and leadership in the 21st century demands more. In an era when our destiny is shared, power is no longer a zero sum game. No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed. No balance of power among nations will hold," he said.

Speaking to the 59th opening session of the U.N. General Assembly, Obama laid out four pillars for the world community -- peace in the Mideast and elsewhere, a reduction in nuclear weapons, preservation of the environment and global economic opportunity.

Obama said he wants a post-atomic age, and he will hold countries accountable for threatening the rest of the globe with nuclear weapons as the United States tries to reduce its arsenal.

Saying the United States will work with Russia to reduce its strategic warheads through an update of the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, Obama pledged to move to ratify the Test Ban Treaty, work with others so that "nuclear testing is permanently prohibited," begin negotiations in January on a treaty to end fissile material production and host a summit in April that reaffirms each nation's responsibility to secure nuclear material on its territory.

Obama said he was not going to single out any nation, but in the next sentence he called out North Korea and Iran as threats to world cooperation.

"Those nations that refuse to live up to their obligations must face consequences. This is not about singling out individual nations -- it is about standing up for the rights of all nations that do live up to their responsibilities," he said, adding "the governments of North Korea and Iran threaten to take us down this dangerous slope."

"I am committed to diplomacy that opens a path to greater prosperity and a more secure peace for both nations if they live up to their obligations. ... But if the governments of Iran and North Korea choose to ignore international standards ... then they must be held accountable."

As Obama spoke, Libyan leader Muammar al-Qaddafi, who followed Obama in delivering a speech from the dais, scribbled notes as he listened to the U.S. president through a translation ear piece. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also sat in the chamber, his hands cusped together in his lap. He did not take notes. Neither applauded during the speech, though Qaddafi clapped when the president ended his remarks. Ahmadinejad did not.

In his 38-minute speech, Obama pressed the world to cooperate on carbon emissions reduction, saying the "wealthy nations that did so much to damage the environment in the 20th century must accept our obligation to lead" but "the fast-growing carbon emitters who can do more to reduce their air pollution without inhibiting growth."

Obama also pledged continued aid through the Global Fund to fight HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria and polio, and by contributions of H1N1 vaccines to the World Health Organization.

He also talked about greater integration of economies through global trade and the Millennium Development Goals.

"Now is the time for all of us to do our part. Growth will not be sustained or shared unless all nations embrace their responsibility. Wealthy nations must open their markets to more goods and extend a hand to those with less, while reforming international institutions to give more nations a greater voice. Developing nations must root out the corruption that is an obstacle to progress ... That's why we will support honest police and independent judges; civil society and a vibrant private sector," he said.

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(This post was last modified: 09-23-2009 05:04 PM by SumOfAllFears.)
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Talk about $hitting in your mess kit? Next he'll tell black people that they all eat watermelon, fried chicken and don't know who their daddy's are. Let's just make everyone mad at you.
09-23-2009 05:15 PM
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Quote:"The people of the world want change," he said, noting that "just as no nation should be forced to accept the tyranny of another nation, no individual should be forced to accept the tyranny of their own government."

My Sweet Jesus if f*cking Obama wants to see Tyranny First Hand, all he had to do is LOOK IN THE MIRROR !!!!!!!!

Who is this asshat to tell any other country to kowtow to a bunch of Radical Arabs that WERE GIVEN LAND they DID NOT OWN ??????

Father Barack is racking up a "Hate Following" that is rivaling some of the worst Murdering Dictators to ever control a Nation.

The man has Mental Issues that go way beyond the pale of reality and common sense.

Blames Israel for blaming the United States for meddling in Israeli Affairs.

God this is one arrogant in love with himself fool !!!!!!!!!!!

AND HIS "MUSLIM" IS REALLY STARTING TO SHOW BIG TIME ......

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09-23-2009 05:27 PM
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alot of those american jewish voters won't care, they worship a different god anyway.

Now the Jews in Israel, thats another story
09-23-2009 05:28 PM
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Quote:".......and is working to reach the goal of "a world without nuclear weapons."

He's a fool if he thinks that's even remotely possible. The ONLY way the world will get rid of nuclear weapons is if something better is developed. The leaders of other countries must think he's a total idiot.
09-23-2009 05:35 PM
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(09-23-2009 05:28 PM)GGniner Wrote:  alot of those american jewish voters won't care, they worship a different god anyway.

Now the Jews in Israel, thats another story

There is but one God and Jews in Israel and here in America worship that God.

As far as the American Jewish Voters are concerned, they feel they have been betrayed. And that betrayal will dog Democrats into nonexistence.
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(09-23-2009 06:06 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(09-23-2009 05:28 PM)GGniner Wrote:  alot of those american jewish voters won't care, they worship a different god anyway.

Now the Jews in Israel, thats another story

There is but one God and Jews in Israel and here in America worship that God.

As far as the American Jewish Voters are concerned, they feel they have been betrayed. And that betrayal will dog Democrats into nonexistence.

The disdain that the DNC has toward Israel is not new, nor has it been particularly subtle. Yet Jews keep voting for that party.

I think it's b/c politics are local, and at the local level, Dems don't offend Jews.

I don't think it's gonna change much.

Moreover, I suspect that the belief among Jews is that "conservatives" largely believe what's written here
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/09/you-c...-left.html

So they don't see much of an alternative. Whether that's true or not, is a different question. One I'm not really prepared to answer, since I don't have the pulse of "conservatives" nor the ability to distinguish fully conservatives vs neo-cons, etc. Although those groups do seem to be trying mutually to exclude each other.

Anyway, I also thought this editorial was worth getting into this discussion board.
09-24-2009 08:26 AM
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When it comes down to a Voting Block and a Demographic, a Jew is a Jew is a Jew and they will vote together.

They have been slapped like a Monk ***** and will not take this lying down.

Father Barack is burning bridges that haven't even been built yet and HE DOESN'T CARE.

They are willing to make a Hail Mary Sacrifice of countless Congressional Seats and even the Presidency just to Win One Single Issue that will be Gutted by the New Congress and the new Real POTUS.

Who are these demented people ??????

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09-24-2009 08:40 AM
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Quote: since I don't have the pulse of "conservatives" nor the ability to distinguish fully conservatives vs neo-cons, etc

There's really no such thing as a neo-con outside of liberals converted to conservatism somewhere along the way. It became a term used later on(after these 60's Liberal converts coined it) to be a demonization term and for many code for "Joooos" to the anti-semite crowd.

Anyway, several Irvin Kristol articles the past week, Jonah Goldberg wrote a good one summing the differences between Kristol and WFB conservatism, I think.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDd...VlZGJjZmI=

Quote:I am a National Review guy, and William F. Buckley would be the first face etched on my American-conservative Mount Rushmore, but, aside from my father, no single person had a bigger impact on my political thinking than Kristol, whose funeral was Tuesday.

The obituaries have focused on Irving’s role as the “godfather of neoconservatism” and the founder of The Public Interest. That is as it should be. From that perch, Kristol led a massive counteroffensive on what he called the “new class — statist intellectuals, lawyers, social workers, educators et al.”

“Though they continue to speak the language of Progressive reform,” Kristol wrote, “in actuality they are acting upon a hidden agenda: to propel the nation . . . toward an economic system so stringently regulated in detail as to fulfill many of the traditional anti-capitalist aspirations of the Left.”

Kristol’s formulation wasn’t entirely new. He expanded an argument made by such figures as economist Joseph Schumpeter and James Burnham, another Trotskyist turned conservative (and a founding editor of National Review). But two things set Kristol apart. The first is that he understood the new class intimately; he spoke its language and was from the same cultural milieu. The second is that he did something about it.

Buckley said that the neocons’ greatest contribution to conservatism was “sociology.” The early National Review conservatism was more Aristotelian, Buckley observed, while the neos brought the language of social science to the debate. National Review might first ask whether a government initiative was warranted under the Constitution, or whether it violated some immutable moral law. The neocons were less abstract. “The legitimate question to ask about any program,” according to Kristol, “is, ‘Will it work?’”

Starting at the height of LBJ’s Great Society, Kristol unleashed a cadre of America’s finest social scientists — James Q. Wilson, Seymour Martin Lipset, Charles Murray, Thomas Sowell, Stephan and Abigail Thernstrom, to name a few — to ask that question, and the answers usually confirmed that the Aristotelians were right all along. (No wonder the “law of unintended consequences” became the neocons’ motto.)


Mark Levin's book, is probably the best guide around to Conservatism as a whole and how it traces back to the Founding Fathers. Levin has a brilliant mind, amazes me how he runs the Landmark Legal Foudnation and still does Radio at night. I think he's won like 4 or 5 cases before the Supreme Court.

anyway, American Jews are mostly Northern wealthy types(natural Liberals) and have long standing ties to the Democrat Party. It will take alot for them to completely jump ship to a party that has been demonized by their leaders for their entire lives.


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09-24-2009 08:42 AM
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Just read this review posted this afternoon at bahnsens site on the book,
"The Israel Test" by George Gilder


sounds like a good book, hits up on the question in this thread. It's little wonder leftist are attracted to anti-Israel positions.
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