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NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
and during the month of Ramadan just like 9/11, of course.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime...sives.html
Quote:NYPD investigators, in coordination with the FBI, hit chemical and fertilizer companies looking for customers who bought bulk and paid cash - and they were also showing up at storage centers in Long Island City…
The feds also discovered his fingerprints on batteries and other items that could be used to make explosives. The feds are also investigating reports that Afghan men tried to rent a 26-foot truck from a Queens U-Haul on Sept. 9.
Fertilizer bombs packed into a truck were used by terrorists to attack the federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995…
The FBI said Zazi, arrested in Colorado on Saturday, has admitted being trained in “weapons and explosives” last year at an Al Qaeda camp in Pakistan.
And sources told The News for the first time that he admits he was out to kill.
Now, will we ever learn how the Feds got tipped off to this plot to thwart it?
(This post was last modified: 09-22-2009 10:43 AM by GGniner.)
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09-22-2009 10:16 AM |
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RE: NYC terror suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
(09-22-2009 10:16 AM)GGniner Wrote: and during the month of Ramadan just like 9/11, of course.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime...sives.html
Quote:NYPD investigators, in coordination with the FBI, hit chemical and fertilizer companies looking for customers who bought bulk and paid cash - and they were also showing up at storage centers in Long Island City…
The feds also discovered his fingerprints on batteries and other items that could be used to make explosives. The feds are also investigating reports that Afghan men tried to rent a 26-foot truck from a Queens U-Haul on Sept. 9.
Fertilizer bombs packed into a truck were used by terrorists to attack the federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995…
The FBI said Zazi, arrested in Colorado on Saturday, has admitted being trained in “weapons and explosives” last year at an Al Qaeda camp in Pakistan.
And sources told The News for the first time that he admits he was out to kill.
Now, will we ever learn how the Feds got tipped off to this plot to thwart it?
How the Feds got tipped is something we all SHOULDN'T learn about if we ever want to get tipped in the same fashion again. There are some things that the average American should remain in the dark about.
With that said, the Administration or Congress will probably push for public hearings concerning this so that they can get the proper "facetime".
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09-22-2009 10:27 AM |
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
Why do so many goons have trouble renting trucks? It's like the terrorist Achilles heel.
Goon "Uh, I'd like to rent a truck."
Rental Agent "Sure, where are you going and for how long?"
Goon "Well, uh, Manhattan for a indefinate time."
Rental Agent "OK, the deposit is $250."
Goon "Do I get the deposit back if the truck isn't returned?"
Rental Agent "Hmmmmm. Hold on let me make a phone call in private from the back room."
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
(09-22-2009 03:37 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: Why do so many goons have trouble renting trucks? It's like the terrorist Achilles heel.
Goon "Uh, I'd like to rent a truck."
Rental Agent "Sure, where are you going and for how long?"
Goon "Well, uh, Manhattan for a indefinate time."
Rental Agent "OK, the deposit is $250."
Goon "Do I get the deposit back if the truck isn't returned?"
Rental Agent "Hmmmmm. Hold on let me make a phone call in private from the back room."
"Little Timmy" McVeigh rented a Ryder with a fake driver's license and he got away with it. Put up a cash deposit too.
I'm glad the jihadis are that stupid to rent. Now if they got on the internet and learned how to bust the ignition lock and hot wire a truck that they steal about 8 hours before the operation, then we are screwed.
And psst, you go to a junkyard, find a truck of the same model that you are going to steal, take the license plates off and use those plates on your stolen truck.
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
(09-22-2009 05:02 PM)WMD Owl Wrote: (09-22-2009 03:37 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: Why do so many goons have trouble renting trucks? It's like the terrorist Achilles heel.
Goon "Uh, I'd like to rent a truck."
Rental Agent "Sure, where are you going and for how long?"
Goon "Well, uh, Manhattan for a indefinate time."
Rental Agent "OK, the deposit is $250."
Goon "Do I get the deposit back if the truck isn't returned?"
Rental Agent "Hmmmmm. Hold on let me make a phone call in private from the back room."
"Little Timmy" McVeigh rented a Ryder with a fake driver's license and he got away with it. Put up a cash deposit too.
I'm glad the jihadis are that stupid to rent. Now if they got on the internet and learned how to bust the ignition lock and hot wire a truck that they steal about 8 hours before the operation, then we are screwed.
And psst, you go to a junkyard, find a truck of the same model that you are going to steal, take the license plates off and use those plates on your stolen truck.
HEY!!! Robert can read that.
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
(09-22-2009 05:02 PM)WMD Owl Wrote: "Little Timmy" McVeigh rented a Ryder with a fake driver's license and he got away with it. Put up a cash deposit too.
I'm glad the jihadis are that stupid to rent. Now if they got on the internet and learned how to bust the ignition lock and hot wire a truck that they steal about 8 hours before the operation, then we are screwed.
And psst, you go to a junkyard, find a truck of the same model that you are going to steal, take the license plates off and use those plates on your stolen truck.
It is quite remarkable, isn't it? Probably says a lot about AQ funding. Why on earth can't AQ pony up $5k for a used Ford Econoline? Jeeze, just pay cash from a used car lot.......
The real problem is when AQ funds the $5k and the driver / bomber is a suicide bomber. No need lie, steal plates, forge docs etc. That will open a new can 'o worms for sure.
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
(09-23-2009 08:26 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: (09-22-2009 05:02 PM)WMD Owl Wrote: "Little Timmy" McVeigh rented a Ryder with a fake driver's license and he got away with it. Put up a cash deposit too.
I'm glad the jihadis are that stupid to rent. Now if they got on the internet and learned how to bust the ignition lock and hot wire a truck that they steal about 8 hours before the operation, then we are screwed.
And psst, you go to a junkyard, find a truck of the same model that you are going to steal, take the license plates off and use those plates on your stolen truck.
It is quite remarkable, isn't it? Probably says a lot about AQ funding. Why on earth can't AQ pony up $5k for a used Ford Econoline? Jeeze, just pay cash from a used car lot.......
The real problem is when AQ funds the $5k and the driver / bomber is a suicide bomber. No need lie, steal plates, forge docs etc. That will open a new can 'o worms for sure.
I just got back from Downtown Atlanta. The "word" has come down because the Police are blocking traffic from the traffic lane closest to the door at the Federal Courthouse.
MARTA is too "PC" however to shake down riders with "suspicious packages" on their trains because it would PO their regular ridership of crack distributors, rappers, and people taking stolen merchandise downtown to “Underground Atlanta” to sell at the “Exchange” etc. You can buy a Garmin 2720 GPS with real time traffic alerts ($750 retail) there for only $100
Obama isn't worried, even though the East Side of Manhattan is shut down for the UN. He had Sister Janet and DHS unveil their new alert system.
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09-23-2009 08:46 AM |
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
Its Ramadan with a new(and weak) POTUS, they are desperate to test him and make a statement.
Kinda telling they haven't been able to yet and likely(hopefully) it will be of smaller scale than 9/11.
I drove by Rusty Shackelfords online Nemisis, house yesterday out of curiosity, nobody home and usually there is a teal Honda civic out front.
Charlotte is under watch right now too.
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
(09-23-2009 08:46 AM)WMD Owl Wrote: MARTA is too "PC" however to shake down riders with "suspicious packages" on their trains because it would PO their regular ridership of crack distributors, rappers, and people taking stolen merchandise downtown to “Underground Atlanta” to sell at the “Exchange” etc. You can buy a Garmin 2720 GPS with real time traffic alerts ($750 retail) there for only $100
Damn, WMD, kind of harsh. You don't know how many times I've used MARTA as an example of how civil and friendly the south is. I went from riding the subway in Montreal to riding MARTA within a week - in Montreal, no-one would make eye contact ... on MARTA, everyone was joking and talking to strangers - when a woman would come on the train, two or three guys would get up to give her a seat. Atlanta has its problems, but I view it similarly to Houston - generally pretty friendly and overall has pretty good race relations compared to many cities - North or South (i.e. in contrast to New Orleans or even Dallas, not to mention Boston, etc.).
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
spend some time in small-town and small-city South if you want to see friendly.
the big cities are a little colder comparitvely, not the real south. Too many transplants
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
(09-23-2009 09:04 AM)GGniner Wrote: Its Ramadan with a new(and weak) POTUS, they are desperate to test him and make a statement.
He is being tested:
Afghanistan needs more troops - Big O makes no decision.
Iran is building nukes and has election riots - Big O makes no decision
N Korea is always stirring the pot - Big O makes no decision
Obama takes office promising to shut down Gitmo - But latet makes no decision
The only decision Barry makes is how many times a day he should go on TV.
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
(09-23-2009 10:58 AM)I45owl Wrote: (09-23-2009 08:46 AM)WMD Owl Wrote: MARTA is too "PC" however to shake down riders with "suspicious packages" on their trains because it would PO their regular ridership of crack distributors, rappers, and people taking stolen merchandise downtown to “Underground Atlanta” to sell at the “Exchange” etc. You can buy a Garmin 2720 GPS with real time traffic alerts ($750 retail) there for only $100
Damn, WMD, kind of harsh. You don't know how many times I've used MARTA as an example of how civil and friendly the south is. I went from riding the subway in Montreal to riding MARTA within a week - in Montreal, no-one would make eye contact ... on MARTA, everyone was joking and talking to strangers - when a woman would come on the train, two or three guys would get up to give her a seat. Atlanta has its problems, but I view it similarly to Houston - generally pretty friendly and overall has pretty good race relations compared to many cities - North or South (i.e. in contrast to New Orleans or even Dallas, not to mention Boston, etc.).
It is very friendly on the Red Line up North in Sandy Springs down to Lenox or Lindburg, but get close to Downtown, or south of 5 Points around the Airport, its very rough. Its nothing racial, its just that you have scumbags on the train bugging you for money, or a cigarette, talking drug deals on the wireless phones, obviously drunk/messed up people, etc.
Its an adventure riding South of Downtown to the Airport.
The MARTA Cops don't really seem to care. Someone passed out on the train with vomit all over their shirt... they just leave them alone.
I just hope they are saving their efforts for Backpack Bombers.
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
(09-23-2009 11:19 AM)smn1256 Wrote: (09-23-2009 09:04 AM)GGniner Wrote: Its Ramadan with a new(and weak) POTUS, they are desperate to test him and make a statement.
He is being tested:
Afghanistan needs more troops - Big O makes no decision.
Iran is building nukes and has election riots - Big O makes no decision
N Korea is always stirring the pot - Big O makes no decision
Obama takes office promising to shut down Gitmo - But latet makes no decision
The only decision Barry makes is how many times a day he should go on TV.
Decisions have consequences.
He's never had to deal with that before.
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
Well, ObamaLiar has decided not to show his real Birth Certificate.
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RE: NYC "Man Caused Disaster" suspect admits to Plotting Jihad
(09-23-2009 11:08 AM)GGniner Wrote: spend some time in small-town and small-city South if you want to see friendly.
the big cities are a little colder comparitvely, not the real south. Too many transplants
Depends on the small towns - I've seen plenty of overt racism and/or very polarized small-to-medium size towns but also very integrated ones. But, I was mainly talking about big cities. And, even living in a big city for 10+ years, you sometimes only get a feel for a fraction of the city (YMMV).
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