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RE: Obama is going to speak to all the school kids on September 8!
(09-09-2009 08:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think I've expressed my feelings pretty clearly and consistently.
I feel like you are overparsing my words and distorting what I said, much more like cross-examination than any legitimate effort to explore ideas.
I don't care to engage in that sort of interchange.

At the time you wrote that comment, was it or was it not an impossibility for you to be "supportive" of the event? If it was impossible, why make the comment?
09-10-2009 07:21 PM
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RE: Obama is going to speak to all the school kids on September 8!
(09-03-2009 09:54 AM)uhmump95 Wrote:  
(09-02-2009 07:34 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  I don't have an issue with Obama talking to students about the importance of education.

What I would take issue with is if during the speech he talks about his policy vision and asks them to support it. I.e. healthcare. "Tell your parents how important healthcare is and that should support its reform" or something to that effect. That's what would piss me off.
I agree with this whole heartedly. Supposedly he is only speaking about the importance of education. There is nothing wrong with that. I do think if he starts talking about political policy that the plug should be pulled on the broadcast.

Presidents have done "public service addresses" like STAY IN SCHOOL or whatever for decades... It is the choice of venue... a National "live" broadcast to ALL elementary school children that concerns me. NOT because I have any particular angst about Obama, but because of the precedent it sets for future Presidents.



(09-03-2009 01:26 PM)JOwl Wrote:  All this wailing and gnashing of teeth is quite amusing. What's the board's opinion of Reagan's speech to junior high students via C-Span and the Instructional Education Network back in November '88?
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/sp...11488c.htm



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I have a feeling Obama's speech will be substantially similar (not in the details of course, but in how "political" it is). I think one difference is he'll probably talk more about and more supportively of education. As to whether hot-button issues come into play, I think that's dependent on whether or not there's a Q&A.

Reagan gave a speech at a single jr high. The text of that speech was made available after the fact... just like the text of every Presidential speech has been made available to anyone who chose to read/listen to or watch it. A single school invited the President. That is an entirely different animal from an "event" like this. If Reagan was "political", the only people impacted by it would have been the people WHO INVITED HIM. The rest of the country had to ASK to see it. This was not presented as an option. It was an "event". While I'm generally okay with Presidential "feel good" speeches to school children... I'm NOT okay with "events" like this. Do it at one school, record it... and let other schools decide whan and if they want to show it.

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Note to Mods... while I FIRMLY support the right of people to express dissenting opinions and realize that at times, people can get engaged and carried away... I see what seems like dozens of posts on here by a single poster that are nothing but personal attacks and offer absolutely no thoughts on the topic whatsoever. As far as I am concerned, and I suspect others... they (the comments and the responses they ellicit) are a waste of bandwith and make the rational, even if heated discussions difficult to follow. I would appeal to the poster to find a different hobby... including bringing something to the discussion... even if I or others disagree with it. Isn't there a "verbal assault" thread?
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