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(08-31-2009 05:23 PM)EagleAttack Wrote:  Your fullback last year was very good. How does the new fullback compare. Similar size? Similar speed? Strength?

Mooney was very good indeed.

For size comparisons, he was listed at 5-10, 247. Our two deep at fullback this week are 5-11, 203, and 5-10, 221.

Speed comparisons I can only give anecdotally:

* Both of the two deep (CeDarius Williams and Kingsley Ehie) were slotbacks last year. Williams continued to take some snaps at slotback during spring practice, but I think he's been only at fullback since preseason practice began.

* Both carry substantially less weight than any of our fullbacks last year.

* Since the new staff came on board, the strength program has had much more emphasis on speed -- not at the expense of strength, but as a compliment.

So, they should be faster. And, since they won't carry the ball 40+% of the time like Mooney did, their size relative to him should keep them from getting worn down too much.

FWIW, "downsizing" in favor of quickness is a fundamental theme of new head coach Rich Ellerson's offense AND defense. Mooney's primary backup last year was Bryson Carl, who is now a senior, still on the team, and listed at 6-0, 245. No other fullback on the roster is above 230.

It's not just the backfield that has intentionally gotten smaller. Our #2 LT is 6-5, 240. That's not a typo. The heaviest on our two-deep OL weighs 283. The three-deep OL for last year's Army-Navy Game had 3 non-seniors over 290. The heaviest player on our current two-deep DL weighs 275.

The one place where we have gotten bigger is at WR. Former starting OL Ali Villanueva is starting at WR. He's listed at 6-10, 283. That's not a typo either, but his roster weight hasn't changed since spring ball and observers agree that he has lost some weight. (He was listed as 6-10, 302 as the starting LT last season.)
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09-01-2009 05:45 AM
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Beat Navy,

Thanks for your analysis. Very interesting. I see they same sort of emphasis on speed from our new coach, especially on Defense. Corners moved do safety, rush tackles moved to Nose, D ends moved to DT, safeties moved to LB. Should be fun to watch these guys fly around.

The move of Villanueva from OT to WR is one of the most interesting position changes I've ever seen...I'm very interested to see how they use him. Needless to say, the kid is an amazing athlete. Would hate to be victim of one of his blocks as he crashes down from the outside!
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(08-31-2009 09:04 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(08-31-2009 08:45 PM)EagleAttack Wrote:  
(08-31-2009 08:05 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(08-31-2009 07:47 PM)EagleAttack Wrote:  LeDuc is too talented not to be in there which leads me to believe it must be an eligibility issue. With his absence I was suprised that Bonner was not in there as well. The Hoskins lad must be coming along well.

I can't figure the Steve Johnson thing out. I have a feeling he'll work his way back into the line up quickly.

I'm sure Blevins will still play a very significant role at RB. I'm not suprised about Corey Welch though. He makes things happen every time he touches the ball.

On the D side, Sears should be fun to watch, both at CB and as a return man. Depth at DE isn't experienced, but there's some talent there. 5 DAYS!!!


Sears is brutal. He will be fun to watch--for the other team's fans.

Spoken like a true Wolverine fan....Kid was a freshmen when they threw him in there - get over it. I'll bet he does fine in the MAC.

Actually, he played two years. Sorry, but the kid was absolutely terrible. He appeared to be in over his head. I hope he does succeed, but memories of Ball State blistering him still come up whenever I hear his name.

I thought he was a Freshman in 06. He was kicked off the team at UM Mid Sept (2 Games in) the 07 season. Did he play in 05? If not, he only played one year...
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It's official, we'll have plebe (freshman) starting at QB: http://www.goarmysports.com/ViewArticle....=204785523
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(08-31-2009 04:13 PM)EagleAttack Wrote:  
(08-31-2009 08:04 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  Will the game release with the updated roster be available today. Looking forward to seeing that depth chart.

The game release just game out. Depth chart on the defensive side of the ball was about what I expected. Couple of surprises to me on the offensive side. Player weights have still not been updated.
EA, gonna be very interesting how accurate the depth chart listed is. My first thought to replace Buche was Demaster, I know when I saw him in April he was up to 310 lbs,hope Fretz has regained the weight. Im also hearing Johnson will be starting at RT. Have to wait and see. Dont know anything about Moore, looks big though.....se you, ccj and hopefully emuph Saturday!....we`re really looking forward to it......04-cheers
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:ncaabbs: :ncaabbs: :ncaabbs: :ncaabbs: :ncaabbs:

Just prayin' for Eastern to beat a non-conference team in a big way. Better yet, I'd love for the Hurons to beat a non-conference D1 squad on the road.

That alone would make my year... as a sports fan.
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(09-01-2009 04:55 PM)EagleWarrior Wrote:  
(08-31-2009 04:13 PM)EagleAttack Wrote:  
(08-31-2009 08:04 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  Will the game release with the updated roster be available today. Looking forward to seeing that depth chart.

The game release just game out. Depth chart on the defensive side of the ball was about what I expected. Couple of surprises to me on the offensive side. Player weights have still not been updated.
EA, gonna be very interesting how accurate the depth chart listed is. My first thought to replace Buche was Demaster, I know when I saw him in April he was up to 310 lbs,hope Fretz has regained the weight. Im also hearing Johnson will be starting at RT. Have to wait and see. Dont know anything about Moore, looks big though.....se you, ccj and hopefully emuph Saturday!....we`re really looking forward to it......04-cheers
We will be there ready to go!.... Later
09-02-2009 06:48 AM
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(09-01-2009 04:55 PM)EagleWarrior Wrote:  
(08-31-2009 04:13 PM)EagleAttack Wrote:  
(08-31-2009 08:04 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  Will the game release with the updated roster be available today. Looking forward to seeing that depth chart.

The game release just game out. Depth chart on the defensive side of the ball was about what I expected. Couple of surprises to me on the offensive side. Player weights have still not been updated.
EA, gonna be very interesting how accurate the depth chart listed is. My first thought to replace Buche was Demaster, I know when I saw him in April he was up to 310 lbs,hope Fretz has regained the weight. Im also hearing Johnson will be starting at RT. Have to wait and see. Dont know anything about Moore, looks big though.....se you, ccj and hopefully emuph Saturday!....we`re really looking forward to it......04-cheers

One thing I know about Moore is that he is extremely strong...Especially for how tall he is, and the length of his arms. He and Palsrok go at it in the 225 Rep testing and both do in the Low to Mid 30's. And when they get into the heavier weights he's stronger yet. I think he's been working hard to improve blocking technique and foot speed....They might have a real contributor there. Did someone say he transferred from Elizabeth College?? Wow! Where is that? Do they have football?
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WOO HOO We'll be there and going strong !!! Got a revasmped party trailer and ready to go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't wait to see ya all, its been too long.
See Ya !
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I don't know about anyone else, but I so excited, I feel like going to camp out in the parking lot and get set up for the tailgate. I'm counting down the hours.
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