From Times Online August 9, 2009

Pakistani Taleban leader 'killed in shootout'

Pakistan’s Taleban appeared to be in disarray today after reports of a deadly shootout between two contenders to replace Baitullah Mehsud, the Taleban leader killed in a CIA drone attack last week.

Officials say that Mehsud, who was Pakistan's most wanted man and had a $5 million bounty on his head, was killed in a missilte attack on a Taleban compound in South Waziristan last week.



Yesterday, reports surfaced of a deadly shooting at a meeting of Taleban commanders called to choose his successor. The shootout was said to be between Wali-ur Rehman, the last warlord's main spokesman, and Hakimullah Mehsud, a powerful Taleban commander.

Rehman Malik, the Pakistani Interior Minister, said this morning that he believed one of the two men had been killed - although he would not say which.

“We have reports that there was fighting between Wali-ur Rehman and Hakimullah.... I said earlier that one of them is dead. I will not disclose the name. I am seeking verification,” Mr Malik told private Pakistani TV channel Geo.

“The (shooting) incident took place on Friday and I said in the National Assembly the same day that there was internal fighting between Wali-ur Rehman and Hakimullah,” he said.

However, someone claiming to be Hakimullah Mehsud called up media outlets yesterday to claim that Baitullah Mehsud was still alive. The two men are part of the same tribe.

And today the Reuters news agency said that one of its reporters had spoken over the telephone with Walil-ur Rehman, who had denied any shootout and insisted that both men were still alive.

“There are no differences. There was no fighting. We both are alive, and there was no special shura (council) meeting,” he said.

Western governments with troops in Afghanistan are watching to see if any new Pakistani Taleban leader would shift focus from fighting the Pakistani government and put the movement’s weight behind the Afghan insurgency led by Mullah Mohammad Omar.

Asked about Wali-ur-Rehman’s comments, an intelligence officer in the region, who declined to be identified, said: “He’s just making it up. The shootout took place and some wounded were shifted to North Waziristan.”

Taleban commanders have said the Government is fabricating reports of dissent within its ranks to promote division and undermine the movement.

Some Taleban officials have continued to insist that Baitullah Mehsud is still alive and his deputy, Noor Said, promised that a video would soon be released to prove that.

But Pakistani officials now say that they are certain that the militant commander was killed and the US National Security Adviser Jim Jones said today that the evidence of his death was "pretty conclusive".

Good good... cracks in the internal organization.

Hey, NW Tribal Elders, I know a quick and easy way for you to make $25 or $50 Million Bucks and a Green Card out of that 14th Century Shitthole. You get to claim credit for getting the Pakistani Army out of the area and the Americans back on the other side of the Afghan Border, whiile you spend your cash in Miami Beach.

All it takes is one phone call.

ANyone here notice how many more top Taliban and AQ leaders we are getting now that Bush is out of office?

(08-09-2009 01:13 PM)RobertN Wrote:  ANyone here notice how many more top Taliban and AQ leaders we are getting now that Bush is out of office?

No.

(08-09-2009 01:26 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(08-09-2009 01:13 PM)RobertN Wrote:  ANyone here notice how many more top Taliban and AQ leaders we are getting now that Bush is out of office?

No.

Well, I guess you need to get out of the cave you have been living in.

(08-09-2009 01:45 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-09-2009 01:26 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(08-09-2009 01:13 PM)RobertN Wrote:  ANyone here notice how many more top Taliban and AQ leaders we are getting now that Bush is out of office?

No.

Well, I guess you need to get out of the cave you have been living in.

The MSM never covered anything good that the military accomplished when Bush was in office. It not that it did not happen, it was just not in the media.

(08-09-2009 01:45 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-09-2009 01:26 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(08-09-2009 01:13 PM)RobertN Wrote:  ANyone here notice how many more top Taliban and AQ leaders we are getting now that Bush is out of office?

No.

Well, I guess you need to get out of the cave you have been living in.

I've been hearing about leadership being killed all along. Your the one who has finally stepped out of his cave and is now hearing about it.

And a lot of these guys getting killed Robbie are the second, third, fourth guys taking the place of those killed previously. You know, killed before currently. In the past. Dead and dead. B. O. (Before Obama) Under Bush. You know,right?

(08-09-2009 02:04 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(08-09-2009 01:45 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-09-2009 01:26 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(08-09-2009 01:13 PM)RobertN Wrote:  ANyone here notice how many more top Taliban and AQ leaders we are getting now that Bush is out of office?

No.

Well, I guess you need to get out of the cave you have been living in.

I've been hearing about leadership being killed all along. Your the one who has finally stepped out of his cave and is now hearing about it.

And a lot of these guys getting killed Robbie are the second, third, fourth guys taking the place of those killed previously. You know, killed before currently. In the past. Dead and dead. B. O. (Before Obama) Under Bush. You know,right?

The increased success in Drone attacks against Robbie's terrorist brethern started in August 2008.

Why:

1. Musharraf resigned in August, 2008. Effective 8/1 2008 we stopped giving him advance warning of Drone strikes in Pakistani targets, because the information leaked back to the bad guys.

2. We captured some upper level AQ Operations people in Afghnaistan in June-July2008. They apparently spilled their guts with all sorts of actionable intelligence.

Give Obama approval for one thing. He kept up the Drone strikes when Im sure the liberals on his National Security Staff wanted[/b] a truce with AQ.

(08-09-2009 01:13 PM)RobertN Wrote:  ANyone here notice how many more top Taliban and AQ leaders we are getting now that Bush is out of office?

Yeah Robs, Obamagog Splashes his tiny Victories all over the MSM's so you Masturbating Obamic Freaks can get your Jollies off at the Great Things he has done in the Terror Front and the Idiot won't even use the Word Terrorist.

And if I am not Mistaken here, this was the Pakistanis that killed this Bastard Freak of Nature, not Obamagog .... Bush & Clinton had just as much to do with this as your Messiah did.

It is funny as hell, Obama would never have to wash his feet if he just let all you Toe Sucking Awe Struck Lovers into his bedroom every night.

Yeah Robs, the Taliban and Al Qaeda are just Miles away from taking over the Pakistani Capitol along with about 25 Nukes, BUT OBAMA IS DOING A BANG UP JOB IN THE MIDDLE EAST BOY !!!!!!

Blind, Deaf, AND Stupid, what a great mix for you Lib's - - it suits you guys like a Maggot Suits a Blow Fly.

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This is what should have happened in the first place. If Shrub had finished the job in Afghanistan (and Pakistan) before going to Iraq, Obama wouldn't be president today.

I think it's a very interesting comparison in that Obama's situation regarding Iran may be very similar to Shrub's situation regarding Iraq. They're being handled differently. We'll see how Obama's approach works. I'm hoping for the best, and unlike the economy, I think Obama's on the right track here.

(08-09-2009 05:04 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  This is what should have happened in the first place. If Shrub had finished the job in Afghanistan (and Pakistan) before going to Iraq, Obama wouldn't be president today.

I think it's a very interesting comparison in that Obama's situation regarding Iran may be very similar to Shrub's situation regarding Iraq. They're being handled differently. We'll see how Obama's approach works. I'm hoping for the best, and unlike the economy, I think Obama's on the right track here.

I don't believe that Obama has the Brains or the Knowledge to stage these attacks and this is all Coming Straight from the Joint Chiefs.

Of course the Half & Half Jesus is taking all the credit, but we know he is about as smart as a rock when it comes to handling these types of operations.

Robert knows more than Obama does about this stuff and that is only because Robert trained with Hamas. (must be horrible to be the only kid to fail Suicide Bombers Class like Robs did)

Now he won't ever get laid since he is out his 72 Virgins.

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