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RE: Army Major Refuses deploy to Afghanistan, Says Obama Not U.S. Citizen
I don't know if you nuckleheads know it or not, but its too late for John McCain to be the new president. Would you rather have BIDEN?
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Out of Obama, Biden, or Pelosi, I'd rather take my chances with Obama.
At least he's young enough that he might grow some sense someday.
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(07-15-2009 12:39 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  I don't know if you nuckleheads know it or not, but its too late for John McCain to be the new president. Would you rather have BIDEN?

To be frank, yes.
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(07-15-2009 01:27 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(07-15-2009 12:39 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  I don't know if you nuckleheads know it or not, but its too late for John McCain to be the new president. Would you rather have BIDEN?

To be frank, yes.

Difference between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.
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(07-15-2009 12:39 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  I don't know if you nuckleheads know it or not, but its too late for John McCain to be the new president. Would you rather have BIDEN?

Biden is just as Illegal and Illegitimate as Obama if this turns South for 'Old Boy' and Biden Should Not be Installed as POTUS at all.

Barack Hussein Obama II won the Presidential Election, NOT Joe Biden, so in all honesty, even though Biden is not Culpable to any Crime, he is still an Illegitimately Elected Official (and Is Biden even "Elected" under any Legal Definition in this case ???)

If this turns out to be True, this will or could cause a crisis like no other we have ever witnessed in this Nation and then they would have to even turn back the Clock to Obama's Elected Time In Illinois.

Everything, every piece of Legislation he Wrote and Drove into Law (which in Obama's Case is next to nothing), will have to have a Review, possibly a Revote or possibly be Overturned by the SCOTUS or Actually Thrown Out.

I mean if Obama is Illegitimate, then all this Votes and Works are too ....

And the Longer this drags out, the worse of a Crisis this will become.

AHHHHHH .....

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(07-15-2009 10:22 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(07-15-2009 10:19 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  If You Stand For Nothing You'll Fall For Anything.

Stand in front of a moving bulldozer and you can do both. That's what the guy is doing. There are ways to do this. This isn't it.

Reb, both of us being Military Vets, I have to Disagree.

This man is a Major in the United States Army and he did not make it way up there by Shirking His Duties.

And if any one of us as American Citizens has the Right to Question the Legitimacy of the Commander-in-Chief who is sending you into Harms Way, it should be the Combat Soldier.

As far as I can see, the Major never said that he would Not Go, he said he "Will Not Go Not Knowing if the President Sending Him is Illegitimately in Office".

The Major has to go and maybe Die or Command Troops in the Field to Die, he should have to Same Rights as any Civilian to Dissent and even more so when he faces the "Working End of an Al Qaeda AK47".

I hate that they have started Article 32 on this and maybe the Article 32 will initiate a 'Finding' and will allow a Legal Remedy to this situation where we get to Finally See the Birth Records (real & complete ones) and the Major can go on and Deploy.

I hate that an Army Major may go to prison over this, but he seems willing to sacrifice his Freedom for it, but Not His Honor.

Who takes care of us Reb when we are hurt and have been harmed in Battle ??? Very few seem to care .... I back this man if it gets that bunch of Birth Documents any closer to coming into the light .... I hope the best for the Major .... 04-rock 04-rock 04-rock

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(07-15-2009 01:56 PM)Tripster Wrote:  
(07-15-2009 12:39 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  I don't know if you nuckleheads know it or not, but its too late for John McCain to be the new president. Would you rather have BIDEN?

Biden is just as Illegal and Illegitimate as Obama if this turns South for 'Old Boy' and Biden Should Not be Installed as POTUS at all.

Barack Hussein Obama II won the Presidential Election, NOT Joe Biden, so in all honesty, even though Biden is not Culpable to any Crime, he is still an Illegitimately Elected Official (and Is Biden even "Elected" under any Legal Definition in this case ???)

That's not how I've heard it. If Obama is out, Biden is in. He's a legit VP, regardless of the Pres.
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At this point, I don't give a d@mn who is president. I think because of the fraud at the highest levels the PEOPLE deserve another election. That won't happen because it's the fairest thing, and politicians never let that happen. If Obama is not eligible under the Constitution, the people have a right to know, one way or the other. Not some obscure enigma, not some spin of the Constitution, the truth. It's our country, It's our government, We deserve the truth.

If Obama is not eligible, every order he signed, every bill he signed, is null and void.

We may very well be stuck with Biden, but Obama will go down in history as the biggest fraud in American History. And supporters of his fraud will be disgraced.


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(07-15-2009 10:19 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  If You Stand For Nothing You'll Fall For Anything.

No...If you stand on principle....you don't fall for anything.

I admire this guy for standing on principle....even though I think he is wasting his time and effort that could be put to more productive means.
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(07-15-2009 09:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I admire this guy for standing on principle....even though I think he is wasting his time and effort that could be put to more productive means.

People said the same thing to Rosa Parks. But the major is taking a huge gamble......he's got guts.
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(07-15-2009 10:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(07-15-2009 09:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I admire this guy for standing on principle....even though I think he is wasting his time and effort that could be put to more productive means.

People said the same thing to Rosa Parks. But the major is taking a huge gamble......he's got guts.

Yes....I agree. The difference is he is bucking "his" system.
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(07-15-2009 02:27 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  At this point, I don't give a d@mn who is president. I think because of the fraud at the highest levels the PEOPLE deserve another election. That won't happen because it's the fairest thing, and politicians never let that happen. If Obama is not eligible under the Constitution, the people have a right to know, one way or the other. Not some obscure enigma, not some spin of the Constitution, the truth. It's our country, It's our government, We deserve the truth.

If Obama is not eligible, every order he signed, every bill he signed, is null and void.

We may very well be stuck with Biden, but Obama will go down in history as the biggest fraud in American History. And supporters of his fraud will be disgraced.


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I agree...I could care less which control freak lives in White House. It matters not...regardless the government continues to grow and become more and more intrusive in our lives. That is the natural order of governments...It can be no other way.05-stirthepot
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He's an idiot. He volunteered in May of this year. Then to call out the President-Elect on the "Birth Certificate" is just plain stupid.

Go over there Rush pawn. It's what you signed up for.
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(07-15-2009 11:28 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  He's an idiot. He volunteered in May of this year. Then to call out the President-Elect on the "Birth Certificate" is just plain stupid.

Go over there Rush pawn. It's what you signed up for.

STFU about it .....

You are the LAST one that needs to be saying anything about it our Wittle Fine Arts Majorette Ward Churchill Clone.

Just stick to Fine Arts Class and leave War to the Big Boys huh ????

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(07-15-2009 03:46 AM)Tripster Wrote:  
(07-15-2009 02:11 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Desperation at its best.

On whose part ????

The guy spending $Millions$ to NOT have too show the Original REAL Birth Certificate or the Millions of this Guys Bosses who WANT TO SEE IT ?????

Who have EVERY RIGHT TOO SEE IT .....

UMMMMMMM ???

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(07-15-2009 07:18 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  Wow, Army revokes order deploying soldier questioning Obama birth certificate

You know, I have not given this whole birth certificate thing any attention. I thought it was just some people who hate Obama trying to find a way to get him out of office.

But...after reading all the facts about what's gone on, combined with this story about the soldier's orders now being revoked...I'm starting to wonder.

It does beg the question....why not just release the birth certificate?
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(07-16-2009 01:32 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-15-2009 07:18 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  Wow, Army revokes order deploying soldier questioning Obama birth certificate

You know, I have not given this whole birth certificate thing any attention. I thought it was just some people who hate Obama trying to find a way to get him out of office.

But...after reading all the facts about what's gone on, combined with this story about the soldier's orders now being revoked...I'm starting to wonder.

It does beg the question....why not just release the birth certificate?
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funny! haha.... but why not release it?
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For the same reason John "F'n" Kerry did not release all his military records. They are both lying, and they know the media will not push them to do it.
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Obama And His Birth Certificate Are About To Make History

July 16, 2009

OK, I confess, the title is a bit misleading.

It should read Obama And His Lack Of A Birth Certificate Is About To Make History.

Yesterday, World Net Daily broke the story of Army Major Stefan Cook, who argued that he should not have to deploy to Afghanistan because President Obama has not proven that he is a natural-born citizen, therefore he is unable to serve as Commander-In-Chief.
This is something that will receive little, if any, coverage from the mainstream media.
However, the fact that the U.S. Army revoked the orders of a soldier about to be sent overseas based wholly upon such a claim is unprecedented.

This controversy over Obama’s failure to produce a valid birth certificate has been an ongoing saga.

And all calls for him to do so have either been belittled or ignored by the White House.
Which may lead some folks to suspect that the reason he doesn’t simply produce the blasted thing and put this story to rest once and for all is because he doesn’t have one!
About the only attention we have seen regarding this issue was the presentation of a “Certificate Of Live Birth” supposedly issued by the State of Hawaii.

This proves less than nothing, as first, to look at it you would think that a 12-year old made it on their home computer, and secondly is the fact that a child does not have to be born in Hawaii in order for the state to issue such a document to the child’s parents.

Even if this document is legitimate, it is a far cry from an actual birth certificate, and it surely is not proof of where Obama was actually born.

However , there are literally thousands of articles and opinions floating around about Obama’s birth certificate, or lack therof, and I don’t want to bore you with re-visiting the same stories.

Rather, I would like to expound on my claim that Obama’s lack of a birth certificate will make history.

Consider the following:

If indeed it is proven that Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen, and therefore is unable to serve as President, he will not be remembered as America’s first black President, rather history will remember him as the man who was the cause of the biggest Constitutional crisis this country has ever seen!

The question will be raised of what will happen to other troops deployed by Obama, and the troops already serving under orders from an ineligible commander in chief.
Every piece of legislation that Obama has signed since taking office would now be considered under law to be null and void.
Imagine what this would mean to the stock market, financial institutions, the auto industry, as well as every other facet of the American economy.

Not to mention, the people who already accuse the president’s critics of being racists will no doubt try to use this as their proof and stoke racial tensions to the point of riot.
Every appointment he has made, regardless if it was an appointment as a “Czar’, or a Cabinet-level position, would have to be overturned, and it would become the duty of the Vice-President to re-fill those positions.
Which leads to perhaps the most intriguing scenario of all.

The Constitution states that if the President is unable to serve, the Vice-President shall assume the duties of the office.
However, if the man who chose you to be his running mate was found to have been elected to the office in violation of Constitutional law, where does that leave you Mr. Biden?
After all, we (well, some of you poor misguided individuals) voted for the two of you as a team running on the same ticket.
So if it is found that the man who picked you to be his running mate did so in direct violation of federal law, doesn’t it follow that you were also elected to the Vice-Presidency under false pretenses?

Barack Obama.

CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!

When the U.S. military accepts the claim of a soldier that the man posing as Commander-In-Chief has failed to produce his eligibility to hold that title, we may be on the verge of seeing change beyond belief.
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