(07-11-2009 03:53 PM)dwr0109 Wrote:  I agree. So what would bring them back? How would you compete against sweat-shops in 3rd world nations?

Remove all corporate taxes, income taxes, and every other tax, and implement the Fair Tax.

(07-13-2009 09:04 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(07-11-2009 03:53 PM)dwr0109 Wrote:  I agree. So what would bring them back? How would you compete against sweat-shops in 3rd world nations?

Remove all corporate taxes, income taxes, and every other tax, and implement the Fair Tax.

Although I still contend the ANY tax is theft...I would agree that the FT would be a good first step in ending this theft eventually and moving to a more voluntary and user fee based system. Certainly... ending the IRS and repealing the 16th amendment would be a great thing.

I would support HR 25 in lieu of our present system. It would allow me to evade some of the theft by buying used and black market goods, bartering and hiring labor on a cash basis.

FoFuckingMoron,

You contend the ANY tax is theft, but you want to legalize and tax drugs. Hypocrite, Hypocrite, Hypocrite, your mantra is named Hypocritical.

(07-13-2009 11:30 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  FoFuckingMoron,

You contend the ANY tax is theft, but you want to legalize and tax drugs. Hypocrite, Hypocrite, Hypocrite, your mantra is named Hypocritical.

Sorry...No...I do not advocate theft in any manner. I favor legalization and sale of these substances in the free market. I'll leave the theft to statists like you.

Nice try though.

(07-13-2009 09:30 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-13-2009 09:04 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(07-11-2009 03:53 PM)dwr0109 Wrote:  I agree. So what would bring them back? How would you compete against sweat-shops in 3rd world nations?

Remove all corporate taxes, income taxes, and every other tax, and implement the Fair Tax.

Although I still contend the ANY tax is theft...I would agree that the FT would be a good first step in ending this theft eventually and moving to a more voluntary and user fee based system. Certainly... ending the IRS and repealing the 16th amendment would be a great thing.

I would support HR 25 in lieu of our present system. It would allow me to evade some of the theft by buying used and black market goods, bartering and hiring labor on a cash basis.

A fair tax is rediculous. It is based on consumer spending. Imagine how well that would work to bring in money during a down econpmy(like now when people aren't buying **** because they have no money to spend).

Sometimes I think of Robert as a drugged up horse running down a narrow track with blinders on trying to make a decision on whether to turn left, right, or fall off the cliff.


Hey Robert, ever wonder why our consumer spending is down? Think it might have something to do with the unemployment and the fact that people are uncertain as to what this flippin' dumb*** in office is going to do or who he's going to target next? You really aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

(07-13-2009 12:25 PM)RobertN Wrote:  A fair tax is rediculous. It is based on consumer spending. Imagine how well that would work to bring in money during a down econpmy(like now when people aren't buying **** because they have no money to spend).

And just what is wrong with the government having less money to waste when the tax payers have less? Putting aside that the government shouldn't ever be wasting money.

(07-13-2009 12:25 PM)RobertN Wrote:  A fair tax is rediculous. It is based on consumer spending. Imagine how well that would work to bring in money during a down econpmy(like now when people aren't buying **** because they have no money to spend).

YOU HAVE WON THE PRIZE !!!!!!!!!!

"When they have no MONEY TO SPEND" ...... STOP TAXING US TO DEATH OBAMAGOG and maybe people will have a few dollars.

Kill off the IRS and I mean TOTALLY and COMPLETE Annihilate those Bastards, kill off EVERY OTHER FEDERAL TAX THERE IS and I mean from the Hidden Ones all the way down the the Wide Open Ones, then go to a VAT or Flat Tax System.

No BS, no Fake Ass Promise, just plain Common Sense and Representative Taxation within a Single Tax Bill that does not have a 10 Thousand Page set of Rules and Regulations Attached to it like our Present Tax Code/Laws have.

Do your April 15th Income Tax on a Post Card even if there was an Income Tax left to do at all.

YOU HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE PUNISHING TAXATION WE ARE BEING LEVIED WITH TO MAKE A FAIR, VAT, or FLAT TAX WORK .... it can't work with an IRS still breathing Fire Down Your Necks.

Now Today's Taxation Lesson was simple wasn't it Robs ???

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(07-13-2009 12:35 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(07-13-2009 12:25 PM)RobertN Wrote:  A fair tax is rediculous. It is based on consumer spending. Imagine how well that would work to bring in money during a down econpmy(like now when people aren't buying **** because they have no money to spend).

And just what is wrong with the government having less money to waste when the tax payers have less? Putting aside that the government shouldn't ever be wasting money.

This...+1

The current Energy Bill passed by the House, has nothing in it for Oil, (which the US reserves on and off shore could amount to 10 times what is in Saudi) Natural Gas (which some say the US could become energy independent with 2000 trillion cubic feet available, enough for more than 100 years), and you guessed it nothing for Nuclear Power, (which technology has advanced greatly, but the waste issue the Dems say cannot be solved).

I am having a hard time understanding how a trillion dollar energy bill can leave these components out? And call it a jobs bill.

Help me out here.

Under this "energy" bill, we will import more oil in 2015 than we do today.
If you can work out how that can be a good thing, please enlighten me.

(07-13-2009 05:06 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  The current Energy Bill passed by the House, has nothing in it for Oil, (which the US reserves on and off shore could amount to 10 times what is in Saudi) Natural Gas (which some say the US could become energy independent with 2000 trillion cubic feet available, enough for more than 100 years), and you guessed it nothing for Nuclear Power, (which technology has advanced greatly, but the waste issue the Dems say cannot be solved).

I am having a hard time understanding how a trillion dollar energy bill can leave these components out? And call it a jobs bill.

Help me out here.

We just ship it to North Korea since they are launching at least 6 Rockets a Day Now and pay them to send it Hurtling to the Sun on one of their Rockets.

But seriously, we launch Hundred Million Dollar "Nothings" into space all the time, why we can not put these freakin Fuel Rods in a few Rockets and simply toss them toward the Sun is beyond me.

Set them on a Course that puts them near NO PLANET and just let the Crap Burn Up 80 Million Miles Away from us or ever how far.

I mean once you pop the cherry on that Rocket at about 20 Thousand Miles Per Hour when it hits Open Space, it ain't gonna stop screechin' toward the Sun and should need no further "Messin' With" from us on the ground (other than to check on it from time to time) and until it hits Burn Up Distance so we will have data on that part of it.

But of course Al Gore would say our little pittance of Nuclear Waste would Damage the Sun and cause Global Warming to Increase in a Most Accelerated and Deadly Fashion.

I know, Common Sense just can't be found to deal with this issue and even so since the Radioactive Stuff we use in the Fuel Rods came out of the GROUND in the First Place and all ... well that just knocks it out of the Park.

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