Think about how screwed up this state must be if they have to think of things to legalize just so they can tax it. Pot has nothing to do with it, the tax money does.
Think about how screwed up this state must be if they have to think of things to legalize just so they can tax it. Pot has nothing to do with it, the tax money does.
Think about how screwed up this state must be if they have to think of things to legalize just so they can tax it. Pot has nothing to do with it, the tax money does.
If they tax stupidity, you will be broke.
Good one. But if they taxed intelligence, you'd get a refund.
Is it not funny that all of a sudden this issue is coming up during this budgetary crisis? If those in power really thought that cannabis was dangerous....they would slash their governmental structures to meet the current level of theft...instead of relinquishing their principles. Oh...I forgot...government has NO principles...its ALL about retaining CONTROL.
Anyone that professes that cannabis is more dangerous than alcohol either has not partaken of both of them or is just flatly... a liar.
07-12-2009 08:31 PM
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(07-12-2009 08:31 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Thats funny... I love the bong xylophone!
Is it not funny that all of a sudden this issue is coming up during this budgetary crisis? If those in power really thought that cannabis was dangerous....they would slash their governmental structures to meet the current level of theft...instead of relinquishing their principles. Oh...I forgot...government has NO principles...its ALL about retaining CONTROL.
Anyone that professes that cannabis is more dangerous than alcohol either has not partaken of both of them or is just flatly... a liar.
Anyone that professes that cannabis in not dangerous to minors is just flaty... a liar.
Show me how to keep cannabis out of the hands of minors, FOR REAL, and I vote yes.
(07-12-2009 08:31 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Anyone that professes that cannabis is more dangerous than alcohol either has not partaken of both of them or is just flatly... a liar.
Fo, I'm too pooped to do a search, but last week I heard a report that pot can and does cause cancer. Can't say how accurate it is, but I heard it. Doesn't matter anyway, I don't smoke it.
And stop dissing alcohol, it's the nectar of the gods.
(07-12-2009 08:31 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Thats funny... I love the bong xylophone!
Is it not funny that all of a sudden this issue is coming up during this budgetary crisis? If those in power really thought that cannabis was dangerous....they would slash their governmental structures to meet the current level of theft...instead of relinquishing their principles. Oh...I forgot...government has NO principles...its ALL about retaining CONTROL.
Anyone that professes that cannabis is more dangerous than alcohol either has not partaken of both of them or is just flatly... a liar.
Anyone that professes that cannabis in not dangerous to minors is just flaty... a liar.
Show me how to keep cannabis out of the hands of minors, FOR REAL, and I vote yes.
Not to be annoying...but...minors have no problem getting it into their hands FOR REAL...now. I really don't see that there would be much difference unless you decriminalized ALL drugs and let the marketplace handle the distribution and thus eliminate most of the black market trade through competition.
Hey...I fully understand you position and I agree with it. I just think that our current policies have and will continue to fail..plus..You and I are forced to finance that failure. What makes anyone think that somehow we are going to magically make this government system suddenly be successful? Is it not time to let the marketplace w/sensible controls...like alcohol sales, have a crack at curbing the costs and the violence that is associated with the sale of black market drugs?
I still find it funny that this is being discussed during this budget crisis. We know damn well it would be considered this much otherwise.
07-12-2009 09:15 PM
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Drugs, I believe is the common denominator why the political landscape is littered with a bunch of mindless liberal sheep. I am NOT for anything that does not change for the better the situation that rampant drug addiction has caused. I don't see how you can understand my position because you want no control at all on anything. Unfortunately, and I hate it, but I think the Drug Underground must be attacked on the money end. Drug transactions must be identified and prosecuted, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. As a National Security Issue.
(07-12-2009 08:31 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Anyone that professes that cannabis is more dangerous than alcohol either has not partaken of both of them or is just flatly... a liar.
Fo, I'm too pooped to do a search, but last week I heard a report that pot can and does cause cancer. Can't say how accurate it is, but I heard it. Doesn't matter anyway, I don't smoke it.
And stop dissing alcohol, it's the nectar of the gods.
There is NO case that I can find were anyone ever overdosed on cannabis or has died medically from its use. Obviously there have been deaths associated from those that can not tolerate its effects. Just as alcohol...certain people can handle this substance responsibly and others can not. It is use of our common sense in these matters that should guide us...not some arbitrary mandate.
TBH..I really do not care if pot is dangerous or not..or if ANY substance is dangerous or not. What I care about is the right of one to control what he or she puts into their body..either by smoking,injecting,ingesting...or..whatever as long as they do it voluntarily and do not initiate force upon other in the process. By force..I mean...theft,fraud or violence. I either get to control my body or therefore I truly am a total slave. What if the government decides that eggs or bacon or cheeseburgers are now dangerous? Just where does this stop?
I agree though that this should apply to "adults" and that those that are not adults should be restricted from drugs. Education and parenting should play a major role in this also. I think that the marketplace does a pretty good job of this already with alcohol and cigarettes. Yes..there will always be some abuse...but...those involved with black market sales of substances do NOT care at all about who they sell to. Business owners in general do try to restrict the sale of these substances to "minors". Its never going to be perfect..but..I think we can all agree that what we are doing now is a total failure.
(07-12-2009 09:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: Drugs, I believe is the common denominator why the political landscape is littered with a bunch of mindless liberal sheep. I am NOT for anything that does not change for the better the situation that rampant drug addiction has caused. I don't see how you can understand my position because you want no control at all on anything. Unfortunately, and I hate it, but I think the Drug Underground must be attacked on the money end. Drug transactions must be identified and prosecuted, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. As a National Security Issue.
If I have mislead you..I'm sorry for my failure to communicate my position clearly. I certainly DO favor control of drugs. I favor it though licensed "drug dealers"(pharmacies,retail and ABC type outlets) in a system similar to what we use to control alcohol and cigarettes.
I agree that attacking the problem on the monetary end is a valid approach. One of the things people must understand is that the high cost of street drugs is directly tied to the "risk" that is taken to get those drugs to market. I'd submit that the cost of drugs would drop if that risk is removed from the marketplace and the "licensed drug dealers" would have a competitive edge over those in the black market. In addition, the quality and safety of those drugs would a high priority in free market. Competition for customers would be the same as any other business.
Even if the price was higher(which I doubt would occur)...I find it hard to understand why one would chose a dangerous,unreliable black market over a quality minded and safe free market..sans controls.
I understand that sone level of black market may still exist...but surely it would be reduced and easier to control through law enforcement.
(07-12-2009 08:31 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Anyone that professes that cannabis is more dangerous than alcohol either has not partaken of both of them or is just flatly... a liar.
Fo, I'm too pooped to do a search, but last week I heard a report that pot can and does cause cancer. Can't say how accurate it is, but I heard it. Doesn't matter anyway, I don't smoke it.
And stop dissing alcohol, it's the nectar of the gods.
I have not partaken in over 25 years...of cannabis.
I did not like the way it effected my motivation level...so...I stopped using it. It just made me lazy and nonproductive. Nothing dangerous about that.
07-12-2009 10:01 PM
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(07-12-2009 08:31 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Anyone that professes that cannabis is more dangerous than alcohol either has not partaken of both of them or is just flatly... a liar.
Fo, I'm too pooped to do a search, but last week I heard a report that pot can and does cause cancer. Can't say how accurate it is, but I heard it. Doesn't matter anyway, I don't smoke it.
And stop dissing alcohol, it's the nectar of the gods.
I have not partaken in over 25 years...of cannabis.
I did not like the way it effected my motivation level...so...I stopped using it. It just made me lazy and nonproductive. Nothing dangerous about that.
Nothing dangerous about having a populace that is lazy and non-productive, are sheep, and live off the government. Why by George, your wish maybe coming true.
(07-12-2009 08:31 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Anyone that professes that cannabis is more dangerous than alcohol either has not partaken of both of them or is just flatly... a liar.
Fo, I'm too pooped to do a search, but last week I heard a report that pot can and does cause cancer. Can't say how accurate it is, but I heard it. Doesn't matter anyway, I don't smoke it.
And stop dissing alcohol, it's the nectar of the gods.
I have not partaken in over 25 years...of cannabis.
I did not like the way it effected my motivation level...so...I stopped using it. It just made me lazy and nonproductive. Nothing dangerous about that.
Nothing dangerous about having a populace that is lazy and non-productive, are sheep, and live off the government. Why by George, your wish maybe coming true.
I guess the lazy and non-productive part affects different folks in different ways.
07-12-2009 10:16 PM
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(07-12-2009 08:31 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Anyone that professes that cannabis is more dangerous than alcohol either has not partaken of both of them or is just flatly... a liar.
Fo, I'm too pooped to do a search, but last week I heard a report that pot can and does cause cancer. Can't say how accurate it is, but I heard it. Doesn't matter anyway, I don't smoke it.
And stop dissing alcohol, it's the nectar of the gods.
I have not partaken in over 25 years...of cannabis.
I did not like the way it effected my motivation level...so...I stopped using it. It just made me lazy and nonproductive. Nothing dangerous about that.
Nothing dangerous about having a populace that is lazy and non-productive, are sheep, and live off the government. Why by George, your wish maybe coming true.
I guess the lazy and non-productive part affects different folks in different ways.
Of course, ...... when they are tired of being lazy and nonproductive, they just move to other drugs, BTW, thats why it's called a gateway drug.
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