(07-12-2009 07:40 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  

(07-10-2009 01:43 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Fuket. Glad I live in a smaller area and not some liberal metropolis. Let'em get hit. Again, fuket.

Thanks for the great example of extremism. There's not much difference between the American Taliban and al Qaeda/Taliban (just a different religion) when you have people who make comments like this.

I think you missed the point. He's giving up on helping people who not only won't help themselves, but idiotically make things worse.

(07-12-2009 07:40 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  

(07-10-2009 01:43 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Fuket. Glad I live in a smaller area and not some liberal metropolis. Let'em get hit. Again, fuket.

Thanks for the great example of extremism. There's not much difference between the American Taliban and al Qaeda/Taliban (just a different religion) when you have people who make comments like this.

Once again with making comparisons where none exist.

(07-12-2009 07:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-10-2009 01:39 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

I'm pretty sure I've said it before. I grew up in NJ watching the WTC as they rose above the Lower Manhattan skyline. When they were hit the wife of a friend of mine died. My ex-wife, who had moved from So Cal to Jersey City, directly across the Hudson from the WTC, said she saw people with towels on their heads standing on roof tops and cheered and recjoiced when they fell. When the winds shifted my elderly parents in Fort Lee and to breathe the air that was filled with death.

The above picture disturbs me. The videos I see on TV disturb me. As a patriotic American I never had my revenge and I'm sick of apologetic liberals who are trying like hell to prevent it.

Anyone who could look back at that day and think it was a one-in-a-million oddity is insane. People want to kill us and anybody in this country who criticizes how we go about preventing it need to pack up their bags and move because when it does, me and a lot of other people are going to be casting some blame on you.

Jewish people wear towels on their heads? I have heard that there were Jewish people cheering and rejoicing. I have a feeling both reports are bull****. Well, if Bush would have cared, I am sure he could have found Bin Laden and you would have had your revenge. He had 8 years and even at one point said he could care less where Bin Laden was. Yet was unable to catch him. I don't think anyone wants to do something that allows that to happen again. There are just many who think our rights are more important than just making laws willy-nilly that infringe on our rights just to potentially stop an attack. THose people aren't traitors or hate the country. They actually are very patriotic because they WANT to follow the Constitution.

(07-12-2009 07:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-12-2009 07:40 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  

(07-10-2009 01:43 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Fuket. Glad I live in a smaller area and not some liberal metropolis. Let'em get hit. Again, fuket.

Thanks for the great example of extremism. There's not much difference between the American Taliban and al Qaeda/Taliban (just a different religion) when you have people who make comments like this.

I think you missed the point. He's giving up on helping people who not only won't help themselves, but idiotically make things worse.

Which metro area do you live in? Hypocrite.

Your state is bankrupt with a Republican governor.

(07-12-2009 07:59 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  

(07-12-2009 07:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-12-2009 07:40 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  

(07-10-2009 01:43 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Fuket. Glad I live in a smaller area and not some liberal metropolis. Let'em get hit. Again, fuket.

Thanks for the great example of extremism. There's not much difference between the American Taliban and al Qaeda/Taliban (just a different religion) when you have people who make comments like this.

I think you missed the point. He's giving up on helping people who not only won't help themselves, but idiotically make things worse.

Which metro area do you live in? Hypocrite.

Your state is bankrupt with a Republican governor.

Can you try to just one time make a relevant reply to the topic at hand?

(07-12-2009 07:59 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  Which metro area do you live in? Hypocrite.

Your state is bankrupt with a Republican governor.

Why am I a hypocrite? If you must know, I live in Corona which is a republican city. This city is in Riverside County, which is also republican. To the north is San Bernardino County, which is republican. To the south is San Diego County, which is republican. And to the west is Orange County and that's republican, too. Ken Calvert lives a mile or so from me and I've been in his home. It the retards who live north of me, from LA on up, that are ruining the state, and soon the country.

Anyway, I live about 60 miles east of LA, 70 miles west of Palm Springs and 80 miles north of San Diego. Specifically, I live in this development about 200 yards or a long par 3 from the golf course. Something awful big has to happen in any of those cities that will affect me here. Besides, LA is long over due for an enema.

As for living in a bankrupt state, gee, ya think maybe all the friggin liberal free hand outs and the unions had something to do with it? It wasn't the republicans, that's for sure. And Arnie aint no republican, he's about as conservative as you are intelligent.

Now that you know where I live, feel free to stop by the next time you participate in LA's gay pride parade.

(07-12-2009 09:06 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  And Arnie aint no republican, he's about as conservative as you are intelligent.

Now that you know where I live, feel free to stop by the next time you participate in LA's gay pride parade.

Ditto; Retarded, Stupid, and GAY all in one post.

(07-12-2009 09:06 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-12-2009 07:59 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  Which metro area do you live in? Hypocrite.

Your state is bankrupt with a Republican governor.

Why am I a hypocrite? If you must know, I live in Corona which is a republican city. This city is in Riverside County, which is also republican. To the north is San Bernardino County, which is republican. To the south is San Diego County, which is republican. And to the west is Orange County and that's republican, too. Ken Calvert lives a mile or so from me and I've been in his home. It the retards who live north of me, from LA on up, that are ruining the state, and soon the country.

Anyway, I live about 60 miles east of LA, 70 miles west of Palm Springs and 80 miles north of San Diego. Specifically, I live in this development about 200 yards or a long par 3 from the golf course. Something awful big has to happen in any of those cities that will affect me here. Besides, LA is long over due for an enema.

As for living in a bankrupt state, gee, ya think maybe all the friggin liberal free hand outs and the unions had something to do with it? It wasn't the republicans, that's for sure. And Arnie aint no republican, he's about as conservative as you are intelligent.

Now that you know where I live, feel free to stop by the next time you participate in LA's gay pride parade.

LA-San Diego megalopolis, it's all just two big metro area with suburbs inbetween both major cities.

Last time I checked Arnie ® was ruining California.

Are you on the government paycheck? Most of San Diego lives off of the government, thanks to all of the military and military contractors that are in that area.

No, I do not want to go with you to your gay pride parade.

Here is the plan that has Congress SOOOOO UPSET. IMO I don't see anything wrong with it. Besides what is the difference between this program and the Drones that we use to take out a dozen or so scumbags every other week?

WASHINGTON -- A secret Central Intelligence Agency initiative terminated by Director Leon Panetta was an attempt to carry out a 2001 presidential authorization to capture or kill al Qaeda operatives, according to former intelligence officials familiar with the matter.

The precise nature of the highly classified effort isn't clear, and the CIA won't comment on its substance.

According to current and former government officials, the agency spent money on planning and possibly some training. It was acting on a 2001 presidential legal pronouncement, known as a finding, which authorized the CIA to pursue such efforts. The initiative hadn't become fully operational at the time Mr. Panetta ended it.

In 2001, the CIA also examined the subject of targeted assassinations of al Qaeda leaders, according to three former intelligence officials. It appears that those discussions tapered off within six months. It isn't clear whether they were an early part of the CIA initiative that Mr. Panetta stopped.

The revelations about the CIA and its post-9/11 activities have emerged amid a renewed fight between the agency and congressional Democrats. Last week, seven Democratic lawmakers on the House Intelligence Committee released a letter that talked about the CIA effort, which they said Mr. Panetta acknowledged hadn't been properly vetted with Congress. CIA officials had brought the matter to Mr. Panetta's attention and had recommended he inform Congress.

Neither Mr. Panetta nor the lawmakers provided details. Mr. Panetta quashed the CIA effort after learning about it June 23.

The battle is part of a long-running tug of war between the executive branch and the legislature about how to oversee the activities of the country's intelligence services and how extensively the CIA should brief Congress. In recent years, in the light of revelations over CIA secret prisons and harsh interrogation techniques, Congress has pushed for greater oversight. The Obama administration, much like its predecessor, is resisting any moves in that direction.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124736381913627661.html

As convenient as that sounds for message board fodder, I somehow doubt the full situation is that cut and dried.

I'll wait until I have some confirmed facts, before throwing in my 2 cents.

And yet you did.

(07-12-2009 11:03 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  LA-San Diego megalopolis, it's all just two big metro area with suburbs inbetween both major cities.

Last time I checked Arnie ® was ruining California.

Are you on the government paycheck? Most of San Diego lives off of the government, thanks to all of the military and military contractors that are in that area.

No, I do not want to go with you to your gay pride parade.

California has been f'ed for a lot longer than Arnold was governor. Why in the hell do you think he was elected? You're about an idiot for saying something like that without adding anything substantive to validate your point. Their main problem is liberal handouts and illegals sucking off the system, both of which they apparently don't want to address.

(07-12-2009 07:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  When they were hit the wife of a friend of mine died. My ex-wife, who had moved from So Cal to Jersey City, directly across the Hudson from the WTC, said she saw people with towels on their heads standing on roof tops and cheered and recjoiced when they fell. When the winds shifted my elderly parents in Fort Lee had to breathe the air that was filled with death.

and it was your Friends Civil Liberties that were violated(and by extension an attack on all americans Civil Liberties....by Al-Qaeda), and the rest of Americans in the form of this event being a direct attack on our Economy(this cost us a Trillion plus during a recession...i.e. Economic Liberties).

Yet all that is discussed using those terms is the claim that its the US Government 'taking away' our Liberties by doing their historical job in Defending the Nation against such attacks to secure our Civil Liberties.



as for this story, what a joke. A plan that was never implemented........to Assassinate Al-Qaeda leaders. WOW!!!!! The scandal here is that it wasn't implemented.

Note: Obama regularly uses Drone Attacks against Al-Qaeda and Taliban groups overseas.



100% Partisian Politics to try and save Nancy Pelosi(Liar - California), its for a talking point to claim the CIA didn't brief Congress. Which why would they on a program developed on paper that was never developed. Once its to be implemented is when they would go to Congress with it anyway. Like say, waterboarding in which they briefed Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democrat Tribe

and to piss on some Corn Flakes:

George W. Bush - The Dark Knight

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124736381913627661.html

Quote:The official noted that Congress had long been briefed on the finding, and that the CIA effort wasn't so much a program as "many ideas suggested over the course of years." It hadn't come close to fruition, he added.

Michigan Rep. Pete Hoekstra, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said little had been spent on the efforts -- closer to $1 million than $50 million. "The idea for this kind of program was tossed around in fits and starts," he said.

Dick Durbin yesterday, playing partsian politics against National security:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...ogram.html

Quote:"To have a massive program that was concealed from the leaders in congress is not only inappropriate, it could be illegal."

on MSNBC this morning:

[quote]"I don't know that it was a massive program..."[/quote]

Steven Hayes made a good point. 7 and 1/2 years this was kept from Congress. 3 weeks after they were briefed, a top secret briefing, everyone knows about it. And congress believes MORE of their members need to be filled in on top secret briefings!

IF anyone was intentionally keeping anything from these big mouth MF's, does anybody still not know why?

And when did we stop shooting people for revealing secrets?

(07-12-2009 07:14 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-12-2009 06:56 PM)egoboss407 Wrote:  I almost forgot. Thanks for posting pics. Oh and I love America, all of America. No anti-American rants from me. Almost forgot a stir the pot emoticon.

Well, I hate this country-just like Michelle Obama. At least that is what Trippy says since I have not been in the military killing people like he has. You can only be a patriot if you go kill people in a war.

Oh Eggo Busst. I guess you are like the "Little Chilwren (a little Elders lingo there) and are not able to VIEW PHOTO TRUTH.

And YOU Robs, I have never said you MUST don a United States Military Uniform and go Kill ..... I Have Said that if you DID, you would surely have a totally different Opinion of all of this than you do now. And maybe even Earn some Pride of Country that you guys don't seem to be born with and are never taught about. Once you've been away from her and put into Awesome Hell, there IS No Place Like Home and I mean the United States, not just the House where you live right now.

I am talking about being a Patriot 24/7/365 and one of the things that makes one a "Patriot", is not letting some Dude walk into the Oval Office and just Wipe the United States and her Constitution off the Face of the Earth in less than a YEAR because he is "POPULAR" - - that is just BullSh't.

Do you honestly believe that I would be letting McCain get away with the Rape of American like Obama seems to be .... HELL NO I wouldn't.

And Sonny Boy .... I have Video of Michell Obama Stating "I am Proud of my Country for the First Time In My Adult Life" .... you want me to Post It ???

She is what ..... 40 something and it took her 40+ Years to become Proud of her Country and she is only Proud of it now because "Hubby-Kimms is TOTUS".

Give me a f'cking break Robert !!!!!!

I never said YOU had to Kill Anyone and I hope you NEVER do ... I said find a way to get a Real Opportunity at another Angle of Life so you are not stuck in your Weird Liberal Rut.

And FeverTick, if your College has a Medical Department, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let them do a Lobotomy on you as a Class Project .... it would help the U.S. so very Greatly.

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This is hilarious, the NY TImes exposed this plan in 2002
and apparently Panetta(democrat hack and CIA Director) had no idea in his attempt to cover for Pelosi with this

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/15/intern...5INTE.html

Quote:The Bush administration has prepared a list of terrorist leaders the Central Intelligence Agency is authorized to kill, if capture is impractical and civilian casualties can be minimized, senior military and intelligence officials said.

The previously undisclosed C.I.A. list includes key Qaeda leaders like Osama bin Laden and his chief deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, as well as other principal figures from Al Qaeda and affiliated terrorist groups, the officials said. The names of about two dozen terrorist leaders have recently been on the lethal-force list, officials said. “It’s the worst of the worst,” an official said.

President Bush has provided written legal authority to the C.I.A. to hunt down and kill the terrorists without seeking further approval each time the agency is about to stage an operation. Some officials said the terrorist list was known as the “high-value target list.” A spokesman for the White House declined to discuss the list or issues involving the use of lethal force against terrorists. A spokesman for the C.I.A. also declined to comment on the list.

Despite the authority given to the agency, Mr. Bush has not waived the executive order banning assassinations, officials said. The presidential authority to kill terrorists defines operatives of Al Qaeda as enemy

Great find. GG

So the economy is failing, the stimulus is failing, there is no jobs plan to speak of, Biden is on a gaff tare, healthcare reform is a bust, Immigration reform is a bust, the energy plan does not include oil, NG or Nuclear, so they throw this Bush-Cheney out there for diversion. And the JackAssAG wants a special prosecutor.

NICE.....

ObamaTheFuckingBuffoon