(07-07-2009 08:04 PM)Artifice Wrote:  Here's a little newsflash for you two blubbering dolts...

What Obama says or does has nothing to do with how stupid this ***** is.

I also didn't vote for Obama. And if I were a Democrat, I'd be desperate for her to run. Would be the easiest W ever for the Dems.

W was smarter than Palin. And that's not saying much.

Spin spin. It's hilarious.

Your messiah is committing suicide on a daily basis. You spinning it is just proof of how ridiculously partisan you are. Yet another Rorschach test exposing those lacking objectivity or the capability of independent thought. You're too desperate for your "side" to win.

ABC was spinning. Your buying. End of story.

(07-07-2009 08:04 PM)Artifice Wrote:  Here's a little newsflash for you two blubbering dolts...

What Obama says or does has nothing to do with how stupid this ***** is.

I also didn't vote for Obama. And if I were a Democrat, I'd be desperate for her to run. Would be the easiest W ever for the Dems.

W was smarter than Palin. And that's not saying much.

Spin spin. It's hilarious.

Your messiah is committing suicide on a daily basis. You spinning it is just proof of how ridiculously partisan you are. Yet another Rorschach test exposing those lacking objectivity or the capability of independent thought. You're too desperate for your "side" to win.

Can you be more specific on just Who the Blubbering Idiots are there Arti ???

I mean if I am one, I see no Blubbery or Idiocy in my Post and it is Directly Relevant to Barack Obama in every way.

Sarah Palin would be enjoying her life just like she was before had she never accepted the McCain VP Spot, so this tosses her into the Pan with Obama on the Same Level.

She has been Savagely and Viciously Attacked by all the Ravenous Dogs since Day One of the her joining the Campaign and I mean by Meat Ripping Little MSM ******* that need ***** Slappin'.

And to say Sarah Palin is "Stupid or Ignorant" is just plain ass dumb ... there is NOTHING Stupid or Ignorant about this woman at all.

And that is Dire Contrast to a Teleprompter Needing or we Stutter like a Babbling Fool Obamagog and an Unmedicated Joe Biden for crying out loud.

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then there are facts, missing from the article

http://www.law.state.ak.us/

Alaska Department of Law


Gee, I wonder if the Governor of Alaska was talking with the idea of the Department of Law in Alaska in her mind?


funny what the MSM doesn't include in their 'news' reports related to Palin


here is the full quote

Quote: "I think on a national level, your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out," she said.

There is no "Department of Law" at the White House.

No there isn't, but the White House has something very similar to the Alaska Department of Law, in Obama's case he has 40 something lawyers on staff.

Nothing suprising from the network that brought the Gibson Palin 'interview', which was highly edited and out of context for the Tribe to consume and parrot.

btw, yet another bogus ethics complaint was filed the other day even after she announced her resignation. and parroted on HuffPo as if it was legit.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-d...26667.html

Quote:In the wake of Governor Palin stepping down from her job, new allegations have surfaced today in Alaska charging Palin with additional violations of the Alaska Executive Ethics Act.

Zane Henning -- a conservative government watchdog from the governor's hometown of Wasilla and an oilfield worker on Alaska's North Slope -- asserts in a letter to Alaska Attorney General Daniel S. Sullivan that Palin has "been charging and pocketing per diem to live in her home and has used the process for a personal gain since being elected."

This Henning guy, filed one complaint against her for doing an interview in her office, it to was thrown out. This paticular claim is bogus and old at that.

These stunts have cost her $500k so far and the State/Taxpayers $2 Million and counting....

http://newsminer.com/news/2009/jul/07/pa...int-costs/

Quote:ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Sarah Palin's office has released a nearly $2 million cost breakdown detailing what the resigning Alaska governor says the state has paid tackling ethics complaints against her.

The spreadsheet compiled by the governor's office totals more than $1.9 million reportedly spent by various state agencies to handle the complaints as well as public records requests.

Palin, who steps down July 26, has racked up more than $500,000 in personal legal debts on top of that.

partisan politics at its worse

(07-07-2009 08:04 PM)Artifice Wrote:  Spin spin. It's hilarious.

You're correct. But the dems spin higher taxes into being something good or patriotic. They're spinning global warming and you know it. And what's up with health care? They're spinning that, too. And how can anyone in their right mind believe cap and trade is a good thing? Only a lemming could believe that spin. The GOP also spins but when you have no media outlet, except for Fox and a few newspapers, the message never get out.

Palin is hit with all sorts of ethical accusations and goes broke because of it, yet Pelosi won't explain her CIA lie and we can't prove Obama is a natural born citizen.

ABC originally acknowledged that she was referring to that, um, what do you call them? That staff of lawyers at the White Houses disposal?

Quote:“I don’t think it will be the day after day after day of ethics violation charges that are frivolous, that are ridiculous. I think on a national level your department of law there in the White House would look at this, the things we have been charged with, and automatically throw them out, not make somebody hire their own personal attorney to get out there and fight.”

There is no “department of law” at the White House, though Palin appears to have been referring to the White House counsel’s office.

It was only later that they spun it even farther by putting a period at the end of "There is no “department of law” at the White House." and excluded their obvious understanding.

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Quote: “I don’t think it will be the day after day after day of ethics violation charges that are frivolous, that are ridiculous. I think on a national level your department of law there in the White House would look at this, the things we have been charged with, and automatically throw them out, not make somebody hire their own personal attorney to get out there and fight.”

There is no “department of law” at the White House, though Palin appears to have been referring to the White House counsel’s office.

Well with Obamagog, you never know when a New Bureaucratic Office will be Created and one of his Long Time Crony Buddies will be installed as "CZAR".

I mean we are only up to about 75 CZAR'S now and still climbing.

Geeze man you would think we were a Socialistic Communistic Nation or something under Obama - - OH SH'T, WE ARE !!!!!!!

"Never Mind"

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(07-06-2009 08:34 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Well, even when trying to keep hyperbole to a minimum, this is one bizarre move.

Unless she is looking to completely remove herself and her family from the media limelight, I just don't see how this benefits her in any way.

Just think of the political commercials against her in '10 and '12. Every attack add will start with some combination of "Sarah Palin abandonded her state in the middle of a recession...."

Peggy Noonan's thoughts:

Quote:A Farewell to Harms
Palin was bad for the Republicans—and the republic.

Sarah Palin's resignation gives Republicans a new opportunity to see her plain—to review the bidding, see her strengths, acknowledge her limits, and let go of her drama. It is an opportunity they should take. They mean to rebuild a great party. They need to do it on solid ground.

Her history does not need to be rehearsed at any length. Ten months ago she was embraced with friendliness by her party. The left and the media immediately overplayed their hand, with attacks on her children. The party rallied round, as a party should. She went on the trail a sensation but demonstrated in the ensuing months that she was not ready to go national and in fact never would be. She was hungry, loved politics, had charm and energy, loved walking onto the stage, waving and doing the stump speech. All good. But she was not thoughtful. She was a gifted retail politician who displayed the disadvantages of being born into a point of view (in her case a form of conservatism; elsewhere and in other circumstances, it could have been a form of liberalism) and swallowing it whole: She never learned how the other sides think, or why.

In television interviews she was out of her depth in a shallow pool. She was limited in her ability to explain and defend her positions, and sometimes in knowing them. She couldn't say what she read because she didn't read anything. She was utterly unconcerned by all this and seemed in fact rather proud of it: It was evidence of her authenticity. She experienced criticism as both partisan and cruel because she could see no truth in any of it. She wasn't thoughtful enough to know she wasn't thoughtful enough. Her presentation up to the end has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-referential to the point of self-reverence. "I'm not wired that way," "I'm not a quitter," "I'm standing up for our values." I'm, I'm, I'm.

In another age it might not have been terrible, but here and now it was actually rather horrifying.

McCain-Palin lost. Mrs. Palin has now stepped down, but she continues to poll high among some members of the Republican base, some of whom have taken to telling themselves Palin myths.

To wit, "I love her because she's so working-class." This is a favorite of some party intellectuals. She is not working class, never was, and even she, avid claimer of advantage that she is, never claimed to be and just lets others say it. Her father was a teacher and school track coach, her mother the school secretary. They were middle-class figures of respect, stability and local status. I think intellectuals call her working-class because they see the makeup, the hair, the heels and the sleds and think they're working class "tropes." Because, you know, that's what they teach in "Ways of the Working Class" at Yale and Dartmouth.

What she is, is a seemingly very nice middle-class girl with ambition, appetite and no sense of personal limits.

"She's not Ivy League, that's why her rise has been thwarted! She represented the democratic ideal that you don't have to go to Harvard or Brown to prosper, and her fall represents a failure of egalitarianism." This comes from intellectuals too. They need to be told something. Ronald Reagan went to Eureka College. Richard Nixon went to Whittier College, Joe Biden to the University of Delaware. Sarah Palin graduated in the end from the University of Idaho, a school that happily notes on its Web site that it's included in U.S. News and World Report's top national schools survey. They need to be told, too, that the first Republican president was named "Abe," and he went to Princeton and got a Fulbright. Oh wait, he was an impoverished backwoods autodidact!

America doesn't need Sarah Palin to prove it was, and is, a nation of unprecedented fluidity. Her rise and seeming fall do nothing to prove or refute this.

"The elites hate her." The elites made her. It was the elites of the party, the McCain campaign and the conservative media that picked her and pushed her. The base barely knew who she was. It was the elites, from party operatives to public intellectuals, who advanced her and attacked those who said she lacked heft. She is a complete elite confection. She might as well have been a bonbon.

"She makes the Republican Party look inclusive." She makes the party look stupid, a party of the easily manipulated.

"She shows our ingenuous interest in all classes." She shows your cynicism.

"Now she can prepare herself for higher office by studying up, reading in, boning up on the issues." Mrs. Palin's supporters have been ordering her to spend the next two years reflecting and pondering. But she is a ponder-free zone. She can memorize the names of the presidents of Pakistan, but she is not going to be able to know how to think about Pakistan. Why do her supporters not see this? Maybe they think "not thoughtful" is a working-class trope!

"The media did her in." Her lack of any appropriate modesty did her in. Actually, it's arguable that membership in the self-esteem generation harmed her. For 30 years the self-esteem movement told the young they're perfect in every way. It's yielding something new in history: an entire generation with no proper sense of inadequacy.

"Turning to others means the media won!" No, it means they lose. What the mainstream media wants is not to kill her but to keep her story going forever. She hurts, as they say, the Republican brand, with her mess and her rhetorical jabberwocky and her careless causing of division. Really, she is the most careless sower of discord since George W. Bush, who fractured the party and the movement that made him. Why wouldn't the media want to keep that going?

Here's why all this matters. The world is a dangerous place. It has never been more so, or more complicated, more straining of the reasoning powers of those with actual genius and true judgment. This is a time for conservative leaders who know how to think.

Here are a few examples of what we may face in the next 10 years: a profound and prolonged American crash, with the admission of bankruptcy and the spread of deep social unrest; one or more American cities getting hit with weapons of mass destruction from an unknown source; faint glimmers of actual secessionist movements as Americans for various reasons and in various areas decide the burdens and assumptions of the federal government are no longer attractive or legitimate.

The era we face, that is soon upon us, will require a great deal from our leaders. They had better be sturdy. They will have to be gifted. There will be many who cannot, and should not, make the cut. Now is the time to look for those who can. And so the Republican Party should get serious, as serious as the age, because that is what a grown-up, responsible party—a party that deserves to lead—would do.

It's not a time to be frivolous, or to feel the temptation of resentment, or the temptation of thinking next year will be more or less like last year, and the assumptions of our childhoods will more or less reign in our future. It won't be that way.

We are going to need the best.

http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html

(07-07-2009 09:24 PM)GGniner Wrote:  btw, yet another bogus ethics complaint was filed the other day even after she announced her resignation. and parroted on HuffPo as if it was legit.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-d...26667.html

Quote:In the wake of Governor Palin stepping down from her job, new allegations have surfaced today in Alaska charging Palin with additional violations of the Alaska Executive Ethics Act.

Zane Henning -- a conservative government watchdog from the governor's hometown of Wasilla and an oilfield worker on Alaska's North Slope -- asserts in a letter to Alaska Attorney General Daniel S. Sullivan that Palin has "been charging and pocketing per diem to live in her home and has used the process for a personal gain since being elected."

This Henning guy, filed one complaint against her for doing an interview in her office, it to was thrown out. This paticular claim is bogus and old at that.

These stunts have cost her $500k so far and the State/Taxpayers $2 Million and counting....

"Sarah Palin has collected more than the amount established by law by cashing in her per diem checks. Alaska Statute 39.20.050 (Exclusive Compensation) states that the compensation fixed by law for the governor and lieutenant governor is in full for all services rendered by each of them in any official capacity or employment whatsoever during their respective terms of office. Per diem is therefore any added expenses incurred while in travel status, not when living in your own home."

Seems fairly cut and dried to me. Why do you claim its "bogus?"

Palin Report Overstates Costs Of Ethics Complaints: $30,000 An Hour Attorney?

I wonder if the posters on here were equally indignant about the massive costs to the taxpayer, for both prosecution and defense, when the country was immersed in "Monicagate?"

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1...obe.costs/

$80 million just for the independent prosecution. No telling what the defense costs were.

Ah, there was an actual crime there. Before you start the sex BS, it was lying.

(07-11-2009 12:07 PM)dwr0109 Wrote:  Palin Report Overstates Costs Of Ethics Complaints: $30,000 An Hour Attorney?

I wonder if the posters on here were equally indignant about the massive costs to the taxpayer, for both prosecution and defense, when the country was immersed in "Monicagate?"

I wasn't a member here then, but I thought all this "Special Counsel" foolishness was a bit off the mark when they had the Guy Lying his Ass Off on International TV as well as to Federal Investigators (a Crime on its Own), in Court (a Crime on its Own) and every Other place he could lie.

Why did they need to waste all that time and money when they had him Dead to Rights on Lying to Federal Investigators ???

Al Capone murdered probably over 100 people and maybe as many as 200, but what was he Imprisoned For ??? Tax Evasion ....

I guess Capone wishes he were Alive Today and Working for the Obama Group .... he would stay Scott Free from all charges.

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Didn't the lies in question take place, during the "Special Counsel" investigations?

This has screwed her for good politically. But when a book publisher(Harper Collins) waves a $10M advance at you, hard to say no.

Will be interesting to see what if any scandals result from the ongoing investigations of her. For all of you morons bitching about Obama "quitting" his US Senate seat to run for Prez, what elected position is Palin filling now that she's an ex gov? Yep, nothing at all. But $10M is a good reason to quit.

Her poll numbers have gone up. But don't mind that.

How many investigations, and for how long, with no scandals found, need to take place?

Only morons I hear bitching are the people who hate her and you would think would be glad she stepped down. Kind of the definition of moron. Another definition would be onlinepole.

(07-11-2009 12:01 PM)dwr0109 Wrote:  

(07-07-2009 09:24 PM)GGniner Wrote:  btw, yet another bogus ethics complaint was filed the other day even after she announced her resignation. and parroted on HuffPo as if it was legit.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-d...26667.html

Quote:In the wake of Governor Palin stepping down from her job, new allegations have surfaced today in Alaska charging Palin with additional violations of the Alaska Executive Ethics Act.

Zane Henning -- a conservative government watchdog from the governor's hometown of Wasilla and an oilfield worker on Alaska's North Slope -- asserts in a letter to Alaska Attorney General Daniel S. Sullivan that Palin has "been charging and pocketing per diem to live in her home and has used the process for a personal gain since being elected."

This Henning guy, filed one complaint against her for doing an interview in her office, it to was thrown out. This paticular claim is bogus and old at that.

These stunts have cost her $500k so far and the State/Taxpayers $2 Million and counting....

"Sarah Palin has collected more than the amount established by law by cashing in her per diem checks. Alaska Statute 39.20.050 (Exclusive Compensation) states that the compensation fixed by law for the governor and lieutenant governor is in full for all services rendered by each of them in any official capacity or employment whatsoever during their respective terms of office. Per diem is therefore any added expenses incurred while in travel status, not when living in your own home."

Seems fairly cut and dried to me. Why do you claim its "bogus?"

He has a crush on her and doesn't want to believe it.

(07-11-2009 04:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Her poll numbers have gone up. But don't mind that.

How many investigations, and for how long, with no scandals found, need to take place?

Only morons I hear bitching are the people who hate her and you would think would be glad she stepped down. Kind of the definition of moron. Another definition would be onlinepole.

Would that be a Faux News poll? I am sure it went up-just like the "poles" of many of the republicans on this board.

Two things Democrats fear. 1. It's fear itself 2. The "Quitta from Wasilla". That's why the main stream media is so tuff on the barracuda. Palin in 2012. Spread the word.