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(07-01-2009 01:25 PM)Rebel Wrote:  I'm thinking Artiface is one of those insecure men who want to keep all women barefoot and pregnant. ....with Burkha's hanging in the closet in case they get too uppity.

just Conservative women who pose a threat to the Tribe.
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(07-01-2009 01:26 PM)GGniner Wrote:  interesting theory there, WASP nation huh?

It's not a theory. I watched for months as you posted this in your signature and on the board. You changed it frequently, but it was always about white anglo saxon/christian world domination. You even had one where the speaker was trying to make an excuse for it. It was unintentionally hilarious.

your entire infatuation with this woman are your wet dreams about ramming your brand of christianity down america's throats.
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(07-01-2009 01:30 PM)Artifice Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:26 PM)GGniner Wrote:  interesting theory there, WASP nation huh?

It's not a theory. I watched for months as you posted this in your signature and on the board. You changed it frequently, but it was always about white anglo saxon/christian world domination. You even had one where the speaker was trying to make an excuse for it. It was unintentionally hilarious.


really, like what exactly?

please cite the quote and what its from
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(07-01-2009 01:26 PM)GGniner Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 11:19 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 11:08 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 07:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  I'm not sure what she has ever done as a biblical literalist that would get me upset. I'm agnostic, not that that matters much, and I don't want the mullahs running anything. Is she pro death penalty? So am I. Does she want creationism taught along side evolution? I just don't want either taught as proven fact. Is she pro life? A man and a woman?

What has she done because of her beliefs (everyone has there own) in an official capacity to turn you off of her?

Nothing...I have no problem with biblical literalists. I just would prefer not to have one a heartbeat away from being POTUS.

"Thou shall not steal"
"Thou shall not bear false witness against they neighbor"
Take care of the poor, orphans and widows.

Yeah, who'd want someone like that in charge?!


you forgot "Thou shalt not covet"

I didn't actually forget it, I'm just not sure people appreciate how serious it really is. I think most people figure coveting is no big deal.

And to be honest, I'm projecting a little here. As a kid, I always thought that was an overstated principle, "What was the real harm?"

Now I recognize what that leads to, and I agree w/ you, it's at the heart of Socialism and class warfare. It's a cancer to a country/society/civilization. But again, I'm not sure the general public would agree w/ that, or much cares.
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(07-01-2009 01:27 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Its fun leaving things out of context, isnt it?

Not really.

Quote:Chicago Beats New York, Los Angeles In Murders
Police Supt. Jody Weis To Take Hot City Council Hot Seat
CHICAGO (CBS) ―

Chicago is the Second City in nickname and the third in population, but when it comes to murder, the city has the dubious distinction of being second to no city in America.

As CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli reports, the Chicago Sun-Times pointed out on Friday that Chicago has seen 426 homicides this year through Tuesday, compared with 417 in New York and 302 in Los Angeles.

At the end of 1998, Chicago made international headlines as the U.S. "murder capital" after surpassing New York's homicide totals for the first time ever. Chicago shed that dubious distinction when murders plummeted over the last decade.

There are more than 8 million people in New York, compared to slightly under 3 million in Chicago. The population of Los Angeles exceeds that of Chicago by more than 800,000.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.hom...47736.html

You can try and spin it any way you like, but the facts remain.
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(07-01-2009 01:41 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:27 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Its fun leaving things out of context, isnt it?

Not really.

Quote:Chicago Beats New York, Los Angeles In Murders
Police Supt. Jody Weis To Take Hot City Council Hot Seat
CHICAGO (CBS) ―

Chicago is the Second City in nickname and the third in population, but when it comes to murder, the city has the dubious distinction of being second to no city in America.

As CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli reports, the Chicago Sun-Times pointed out on Friday that Chicago has seen 426 homicides this year through Tuesday, compared with 417 in New York and 302 in Los Angeles.

At the end of 1998, Chicago made international headlines as the U.S. "murder capital" after surpassing New York's homicide totals for the first time ever. Chicago shed that dubious distinction when murders plummeted over the last decade.

There are more than 8 million people in New York, compared to slightly under 3 million in Chicago. The population of Los Angeles exceeds that of Chicago by more than 800,000.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.hom...47736.html

You can try and spin it any way you like, but the facts remain.

Spin? I posted hard numbers. You're the only one here trying to make a point out of something not even related to the topic at hand.
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(07-01-2009 01:46 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:41 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:27 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Its fun leaving things out of context, isnt it?

Not really.

Quote:Chicago Beats New York, Los Angeles In Murders
Police Supt. Jody Weis To Take Hot City Council Hot Seat
CHICAGO (CBS) ―

Chicago is the Second City in nickname and the third in population, but when it comes to murder, the city has the dubious distinction of being second to no city in America.

As CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli reports, the Chicago Sun-Times pointed out on Friday that Chicago has seen 426 homicides this year through Tuesday, compared with 417 in New York and 302 in Los Angeles.

At the end of 1998, Chicago made international headlines as the U.S. "murder capital" after surpassing New York's homicide totals for the first time ever. Chicago shed that dubious distinction when murders plummeted over the last decade.

There are more than 8 million people in New York, compared to slightly under 3 million in Chicago. The population of Los Angeles exceeds that of Chicago by more than 800,000.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.hom...47736.html

You can try and spin it any way you like, but the facts remain.

Spin? I posted hard numbers. You're the only one here trying to make a point out of something not even related to the topic at hand.

Does it or does it not hold that title?
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(07-01-2009 01:47 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:46 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:41 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:27 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Its fun leaving things out of context, isnt it?

Not really.

Quote:Chicago Beats New York, Los Angeles In Murders
Police Supt. Jody Weis To Take Hot City Council Hot Seat
CHICAGO (CBS) ―

Chicago is the Second City in nickname and the third in population, but when it comes to murder, the city has the dubious distinction of being second to no city in America.

As CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli reports, the Chicago Sun-Times pointed out on Friday that Chicago has seen 426 homicides this year through Tuesday, compared with 417 in New York and 302 in Los Angeles.

At the end of 1998, Chicago made international headlines as the U.S. "murder capital" after surpassing New York's homicide totals for the first time ever. Chicago shed that dubious distinction when murders plummeted over the last decade.

There are more than 8 million people in New York, compared to slightly under 3 million in Chicago. The population of Los Angeles exceeds that of Chicago by more than 800,000.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.hom...47736.html

You can try and spin it any way you like, but the facts remain.

Spin? I posted hard numbers. You're the only one here trying to make a point out of something not even related to the topic at hand.

Does it or does it not hold that title?

Yes. Now what does that have to do with Palin?
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(07-01-2009 01:49 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Yes. Now what does that have to do with Palin?

Try re-reading the entire threat from post #1, little Johnny. Maybe you'll understand then.
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(07-01-2009 01:50 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:49 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Yes. Now what does that have to do with Palin?

Try re-reading the entire threat from post #1, little Johnny. Maybe you'll understand then.

First of all, I never claimed Palin was responsible for the meth problem in Alaska. I would hope you would have the same intelligence level to understand that Obama had nothing to do with Chicago's issues, either. Especially considering he holds neither the title of Mayor or Police Superintendent.
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(07-01-2009 01:51 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:50 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:49 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Yes. Now what does that have to do with Palin?

Try re-reading the entire threat from post #1, little Johnny. Maybe you'll understand then.

First of all, I never claimed Palin was responsible for the meth problem in Alaska. I would hope you would have the same intelligence level to understand that Obama had nothing to do with Chicago's issues, either. Especially considering he holds neither the title of Mayor or Police Superintendent.

I was wondering why you rudely injected yourself into a discussion between Nomad and myself also.
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(07-01-2009 01:53 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
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(07-01-2009 01:49 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Yes. Now what does that have to do with Palin?

Try re-reading the entire threat from post #1, little Johnny. Maybe you'll understand then.

First of all, I never claimed Palin was responsible for the meth problem in Alaska. I would hope you would have the same intelligence level to understand that Obama had nothing to do with Chicago's issues, either. Especially considering he holds neither the title of Mayor or Police Superintendent.

I was wondering why you rudely injected yourself into a discussion between Nomad and myself also.

If you dont want an open discussion on a public message board, then I would advise utilizing the PM feature with the member of your choosing.
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(07-01-2009 01:24 PM)Artifice Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 12:46 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 12:29 PM)Artifice Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 11:17 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  She's a politician. Isn't this kind of a given?03-lmfao

They're all shameless self promoters, but her particular shtick to get elected as someone you like, or because she's "hot" (boy is that ever subjective) is exactly what is wrong with our political system right now. You guys have crucified (even going so far as tout him on a cross with your own designed images) Obama for shallowness in terms of his experience and "slick" (aka very measured and controlled) handling of the media, but this dumb broad basicly makes the case that the soccer mom two doors down from you should be veep.

I'm not that big of a fan of the establishment, and it is becoming more and more apparent that Obama is just as establishment as the rest of them, but a Palin is not the answer. That's the stupid reform option.

We have a lot of supposed "lift yourself up by the bootstraps" types here, and yet most of these are just blindly loyal republican partisans (apparently because of social issues such as OH NOES TEH GAYS), because they're busy playing hypocrite with every criticism of Obama's continuation of much of the Bush policies, but almost none of them prefer a smart, self made person who is campaigning on substantive, experienced positions on difficult economic and foreign and domestic issues, rather than "lipstick soccer mom" and wedge social issues such as gay marriage and abortion.

There's a few Paulians that I guess can claim that, but he's as much of an establishment type ideologue as the rest.

Would love to see a real pragmatist make a run. None of this "outsider" spray paint bull****. I want someone with some experience and a good track record, but who doesn't give two ***** about partisanship and approaches every decision without already having made up his/her mind because of ideology.

Unfortunately, our system doesn't work that way. So dittoheads like GGNiner will rush to elect someone who couldn't run the local PTA let alone the world's premier super power, on the off chance that she'll make whatever specific brand of christian dogma into the letter of the law for all of us.

And dont let GGNiner fool you. The only reason he wants this dummy in office is to do just that. He jerks off to dreams of a realized W.A.S.P. nation. The comical part is how he wants world WASP domination, completely missing the irony of his islamic extremist criticisms.

She's a witch!!! Burn her!!!:billgates:

She's a pretty soccer grandma because her hard partying teenage daughter had a baby out of wedlock. I'd trust her to maybe run the PTA.

But that's also not the point of my post. My point is, we need better than pretty or sweet or likeable, or someone the common slob can identify with. I want someone who inspires confidence and respect based on experience, open mindedness, aptitude, and demonstrated decision making and diplomacy capabilities. Someone who runs without resorting to pushing the populace's buttons on wedge issues, or campaigning on oversimplified ideologies. I am willing to compromise on some of my personal stances on specific individual issues if someone like that runs.

I just like quoting Holy Grail. Always looking for an opportunity.03-lmfao
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(07-01-2009 01:40 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:26 PM)GGniner Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 11:19 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
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(07-01-2009 07:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  I'm not sure what she has ever done as a biblical literalist that would get me upset. I'm agnostic, not that that matters much, and I don't want the mullahs running anything. Is she pro death penalty? So am I. Does she want creationism taught along side evolution? I just don't want either taught as proven fact. Is she pro life? A man and a woman?

What has she done because of her beliefs (everyone has there own) in an official capacity to turn you off of her?

Nothing...I have no problem with biblical literalists. I just would prefer not to have one a heartbeat away from being POTUS.

"Thou shall not steal"
"Thou shall not bear false witness against they neighbor"
Take care of the poor, orphans and widows.

Yeah, who'd want someone like that in charge?!


you forgot "Thou shalt not covet"

I didn't actually forget it, I'm just not sure people appreciate how serious it really is. I think most people figure coveting is no big deal.

And to be honest, I'm projecting a little here. As a kid, I always thought that was an overstated principle, "What was the real harm?"

Now I recognize what that leads to, and I agree w/ you, it's at the heart of Socialism and class warfare. It's a cancer to a country/society/civilization. But again, I'm not sure the general public would agree w/ that, or much cares.

i should've added to the Envy point, sometimes its the political market Demand(by voters) that makes the way for the supply(socialism). Sometimes I think there are some on the supply side, recognizing the current reality on the demand side and try to manage it(see Mike Huckabee).

http://www2.arkansasonline.com/news/1998...-religion/

Quote:"The reason we have so much government is because we have so much broken humanity," he said. "And the reason we have so much broken humanity is because sin reigns in the hearts and lives of human beings instead of the Savior."

"Government knows it does not have the answer, but it's arrogant and acts as though it does," Huckabee said. "Church does have the answer but will cowardly deny that it does and wonder when the world will be changed."

"I didn't get into politics because I thought government had a better answer. I got into politics because I knew government didn't have the real answers, that the real answers lie in accepting Jesus Christ into our lives."

He compared his entry into politics to "getting inside the dragon's belly," adding, "There's not one thing we can do in those marbled halls and domed capitols that can equal what's done when Jesus touches the lives of a sinner."

The most basic unit of government is not the city council, quorum court or state legislature, Huckabee said. "It is Mom and Dad raising kids and teaching them respect for authority, others and God."

The nation has descended gradually into crisis, Huckabee said, and repairing the damage needs to be gradual, too. He said the solution is simple: faith in Christ.


I have my issues with some of his views on economic related things, though in the back of my mind I wonder if he's not just marketing towards the greatest number of votes to 'get in the belly of the beast' to limit its destruction as much as feasible.

and he's right of course, true Liberty, things like Free Markets included are only possible if we have Free Men(free from sin). Which many don't even recognize such a thing exist.
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(07-01-2009 01:30 PM)Artifice Wrote:  your entire infatuation with this woman are your wet dreams about ramming your brand of christianity down america's throats.

How far can he jam anything on this board?

What about the left? They ARE ramming higher energy costs, stupid light bulbs, tinted car windows (california), higher taxes, etc down the throats of all Americans present and future. Do you think Obama would have won if we knew then what we know now?
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(07-01-2009 02:21 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Do you think Obama would have won if we knew then what we know now?

Obama was pretty clear on his energy policies throughout the campaign
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/2008elect..._obama.htm
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(07-01-2009 01:54 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:53 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:51 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:50 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 01:49 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Yes. Now what does that have to do with Palin?

Try re-reading the entire threat from post #1, little Johnny. Maybe you'll understand then.

First of all, I never claimed Palin was responsible for the meth problem in Alaska. I would hope you would have the same intelligence level to understand that Obama had nothing to do with Chicago's issues, either. Especially considering he holds neither the title of Mayor or Police Superintendent.

I was wondering why you rudely injected yourself into a discussion between Nomad and myself also.

If you dont want an open discussion on a public message board, then I would advise utilizing the PM feature with the member of your choosing.

Then don't ***** when I bring up Chicago's problems when someone blames Palin for Wasilla.
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(07-01-2009 02:21 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Do you think Obama would have won if we knew then what we know now?

Obama was pretty clear on his energy policies throughout the campaign
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/2008elect..._obama.htm

So people were knowingly voting for massive tax increases and invasions into their lives?
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(07-01-2009 02:09 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  She's a witch!!! Burn her!!!:billgates:

Quote:I just like quoting Holy Grail. Always looking for an opportunity.03-lmfao

Oh, don't mind me then. I think I ate some uncooked chicken for lunch and it is firing back at me. arggghhhh 03-puke

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(07-01-2009 11:19 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 11:08 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-01-2009 07:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  I'm not sure what she has ever done as a biblical literalist that would get me upset. I'm agnostic, not that that matters much, and I don't want the mullahs running anything. Is she pro death penalty? So am I. Does she want creationism taught along side evolution? I just don't want either taught as proven fact. Is she pro life? A man and a woman?

What has she done because of her beliefs (everyone has there own) in an official capacity to turn you off of her?

Nothing...I have no problem with biblical literalists. I just would prefer not to have one a heartbeat away from being POTUS.

"Thou shall not steal"
"Thou shall not bear false witness against they neighbor"
Take care of the poor, orphans and widows.

Yeah, who'd want someone like that in charge?!

Nice try Torch....but....As someone who is science minded...you know my problem here.
I have never disputed the morality of the new testament. That is why I have zero problem with people of faith.... Of course...We don't need to mention the violence of the old testament do we?
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