Waldenbooks....closing 250 stores.
Rite-Aid....closing 117 stores
Pier 0ne....closing 80 stores
Starbucks....closing 600 stores
Ann Taylor....closing 163 stores
Macy's....closing 11 stores
Sears....closing 24 stores
Zales...closing 115 stores
Ruby Tuesdays...closing 70 company owned locations.
Gap....closing 100 stores
Ritz Cameras...closing 300 stores

Just a partial list. Just food for thought......

Glad the recession is over.

(06-29-2009 02:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Waldenbooks....closing 250 stores.
Rite-Aid....closing 117 stores
Pier 0ne....closing 80 stores
Starbucks....closing 600 stores
Ann Taylor....closing 163 stores
Macy's....closing 11 stores
Sears....closing 24 stores
Zales...closing 115 stores
Ruby Tuesdays...closing 70 company owned locations.
Gap....closing 100 stores
Ritz Cameras...closing 300 stores

Just a partial list. Just food for thought......

your tax money working for you.

(06-29-2009 02:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Waldenbooks....closing 250 stores.
Rite-Aid....closing 117 stores
Pier 0ne....closing 80 stores
Starbucks....closing 600 stores
Ann Taylor....closing 163 stores
Macy's....closing 11 stores
Sears....closing 24 stores
Zales...closing 115 stores
Ruby Tuesdays...closing 70 company owned locations.
Gap....closing 100 stores
Ritz Cameras...closing 300 stores

Just a partial list. Just food for thought......

That list pales in what Obama's Health Care Plan and his idiotic Cap and Trade plan will do.

Will anyone notice 600 fewer Starbucks?

(06-29-2009 03:36 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Will anyone notice 600 fewer Starbucks?

They over expanded anyway.

(06-29-2009 03:32 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 02:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Waldenbooks....closing 250 stores.
Rite-Aid....closing 117 stores
Pier 0ne....closing 80 stores
Starbucks....closing 600 stores
Ann Taylor....closing 163 stores
Macy's....closing 11 stores
Sears....closing 24 stores
Zales...closing 115 stores
Ruby Tuesdays...closing 70 company owned locations.
Gap....closing 100 stores
Ritz Cameras...closing 300 stores

Just a partial list. Just food for thought......

That list pales in what Obama's Health Care Plan and his idiotic Cap and Trade plan will do.

So what did Bush do FOR us? I sure didn't notice a whole lot while he was in office.

(06-29-2009 03:42 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 03:32 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 02:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Waldenbooks....closing 250 stores.
Rite-Aid....closing 117 stores
Pier 0ne....closing 80 stores
Starbucks....closing 600 stores
Ann Taylor....closing 163 stores
Macy's....closing 11 stores
Sears....closing 24 stores
Zales...closing 115 stores
Ruby Tuesdays...closing 70 company owned locations.
Gap....closing 100 stores
Ritz Cameras...closing 300 stores

Just a partial list. Just food for thought......

That list pales in what Obama's Health Care Plan and his idiotic Cap and Trade plan will do.

So what did Bush do FOR us? I sure didn't notice a whole lot while he was in office.

He did a lot more than some of you yahoos would like to give him credit for!

In time he will go down as one of the greatest we have ever had and that was cool as a cumcumber!!!!!

Obama and his health care plan is going to hurt many hospitals and those he the health care field a ton and why? Just so those who don't want to work can get free health care? Sad really!!!! hell I may just stay home and shoot up Herion at least i'll know I want have to worry about a docter bill

How can people blame the economy on Obama? He has only been in office 6 months. This recession started while Bush was in office. Like the economy was in bad shape under Bush, Obama suddenly takes over and all the republicans say OMG it is his fault and his problem now.

(06-29-2009 03:51 PM)aggiefansince83 Wrote:  How can people blame the economy on Obama? He has only been in office 6 months. This recession started while Bush was in office. Like the economy was in bad shape under Bush, Obama suddenly takes over and all the republicans say OMG it is his fault and his problem now.

Bush's recession will be a drop in the bucket compared to Obama's depression. Bank on it. If you blind followers of the Chosen One don't understand the amount of money that is being printed to fund his left wing social programs, then I honestly feel sorry for you.

(06-29-2009 03:51 PM)aggiefansince83 Wrote:  How can people blame the economy on Obama? He has only been in office 6 months. This recession started while Bush was in office. Like the economy was in bad shape under Bush, Obama suddenly takes over and all the republicans say OMG it is his fault and his problem now.

the president doesn't make the bills. it had very little to do with either president. it was every Americans fault for borrowing more than they could afford. The Banks for lending to people that couldn't pay it back. The terrorists for starting this war. The USSR for falling and creating a one world economy. This has been coming for a long time people. Just like in the 20's and 30's.

If the Senate doesn't defeat this cap and trade bill, the USA as we know it will be gone.

It's hard to blame a downturn in the global economy on the president of one nation, but a lot of it comes down to bad loans and easy credit. People were borrowing more than they possibly could pay back - people from all walks of life... some were racking up credit card debt, others investing in housing in inflated markets... whatever the case... people started trying to pay back debt and cut back on spending. The spiral began.

I've heard people blame Bill Clinton on being the root of the problem when it comes to people being approved for mortgages they never could really afford, but I don't know if that's true or not.

I do know that if the government intervenes with healthcare, a trip to the doctor may wind up as efficient and as satisfying as a trip to the DMV. No thanks!

(06-29-2009 03:51 PM)aggiefansince83 Wrote:  How can people blame the economy on Obama? He has only been in office 6 months. This recession started while Bush was in office. Like the economy was in bad shape under Bush, Obama suddenly takes over and all the republicans say OMG it is his fault and his problem now.

The economy wasn't in shambles until the Housing bubble burst caused by preventable problems at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The Republicans warned that something should've been done as early as 2004 but were prevented doing so by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters and other Dems.

The GOP also wanted to stop the exhorbitant and illegal bonuses to the top executives.

Even Bill Clinton wanted more control & regulation but was overruled by his own party. Now we have seen the results.



.

(06-29-2009 04:03 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 03:51 PM)aggiefansince83 Wrote:  How can people blame the economy on Obama? He has only been in office 6 months. This recession started while Bush was in office. Like the economy was in bad shape under Bush, Obama suddenly takes over and all the republicans say OMG it is his fault and his problem now.

Bush's recession will be a drop in the bucket compared to Obama's depression. Bank on it. If you blind followers of the Chosen One don't understand the amount of money that is being printed to fund his left wing social programs, then I honestly feel sorry for you.

You don't understand the genius of it. The major problem in the economy is the housing market. Property isn't what people paid for it. The property's price isn't going down, so why not print money create inflation so that it can sell. In the meantime, the spending will hopefully address many of the problems of the last 3-4 decades. Aging population, limited health care options due to cost, falling behind to other nations in education, and dependence on foreign oil.

(06-29-2009 03:48 PM)Eagle4life05 Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 03:42 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 03:32 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 02:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Waldenbooks....closing 250 stores.
Rite-Aid....closing 117 stores
Pier 0ne....closing 80 stores
Starbucks....closing 600 stores
Ann Taylor....closing 163 stores
Macy's....closing 11 stores
Sears....closing 24 stores
Zales...closing 115 stores
Ruby Tuesdays...closing 70 company owned locations.
Gap....closing 100 stores
Ritz Cameras...closing 300 stores

Just a partial list. Just food for thought......

That list pales in what Obama's Health Care Plan and his idiotic Cap and Trade plan will do.

So what did Bush do FOR us? I sure didn't notice a whole lot while he was in office.

He did a lot more than some of you yahoos would like to give him credit for!

In time he will go down as one of the greatest we have ever had and that was cool as a cumcumber!!!!!

Obama and his health care plan is going to hurt many hospitals and those he the health care field a ton and why? Just so those who don't want to work can get free health care? Sad really!!!! hell I may just stay home and shoot up Herion at least i'll know I want have to worry about a docter bill

You realize that these closings are a direct result of what has happened over the last several years, right?

No one with any sort of common sense and the ability to reason can lay the blame solely on Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush I, or Reagan. Yes, some can take more blame than the others, but at the end of the day, many of these are the result of mismanagement by the companies themselves, changing business models (Amazon has REALLY hurt Waldenbooks, for example), and yes, the poor economy. The last bit has SEVERAL peoples' hands in it going back to the 1980s, but no one really wants to talk about that because it's easy to assign one boogie man instead of actually figuring out what happened, correct the problems, and ensure that it doesn't happen again.

So here's an idea: why don't some of you start proposing alternative plans (and think of them yourselves instead of parroting some yahoo on the radio or Fox News) instead of wasting everyone's time with your juvenile (at best) and worthless comments?

I'll start. Here's an outline of my health care proposal:

I think that the most politically acceptable plan would involve having current insurers enter into a pool where they take on uninsured people in proportion to the companies' market share. So if you have 10% of the market, you take in 10% of the uninsured populace (who meet certain income criteria, etc). These people have a portion of their premium subsidized by the state and federal governments, with the rest of the cost coming out of their own pocket.

This way, the people who worship the Free Market get to keep their marketplace, and those of us who want universal coverage get what we want out of it. Additionally, the State and the Fed will have to increase regulation on the companies, but that was expected anyway.

Basically, this is similar to the auto insurance and home owners insurance pools that are already in place in several states.

(06-29-2009 04:07 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  If the Senate doesn't defeat this cap and trade bill, the USA as we know it will be gone.

Hyperbole much?

(06-29-2009 03:42 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 03:32 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 02:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Waldenbooks....closing 250 stores.
Rite-Aid....closing 117 stores
Pier 0ne....closing 80 stores
Starbucks....closing 600 stores
Ann Taylor....closing 163 stores
Macy's....closing 11 stores
Sears....closing 24 stores
Zales...closing 115 stores
Ruby Tuesdays...closing 70 company owned locations.
Gap....closing 100 stores
Ritz Cameras...closing 300 stores

Just a partial list. Just food for thought......

That list pales in what Obama's Health Care Plan and his idiotic Cap and Trade plan will do.

So what did Bush do FOR us? I sure didn't notice a whole lot while he was in office.

1. It really wasn't his job to create jobs. That's the private sector.

2. That being said, he didn't destroy the private sector w/ burdensome regulation and oppressive taxes.

If you didn't notice a "whole lot" that could mean several things:

1. People tend not to be observant when things are going well. This is a well known phenomenon, and why businesses get lots more complaint cards, rather than compliments, even though when polled people are content usually over 90% of the time.

2. You were paying attention to the media scares of 5.6% unemployment, up from 5.5%.

3. You have forgotten much of the good of the Bush years.

4. You became accustomed to affluence and assumed it to be the norm.

5. You may just not be very smart.

(06-29-2009 04:15 PM)Cletus Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 03:51 PM)aggiefansince83 Wrote:  How can people blame the economy on Obama? He has only been in office 6 months. This recession started while Bush was in office. Like the economy was in bad shape under Bush, Obama suddenly takes over and all the republicans say OMG it is his fault and his problem now.

The economy wasn't in shambles until the Housing bubble burst caused by preventable problems at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The Republicans warned that something should've been done as early as 2004 but were prevented doing so by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters and other Dems.

The GOP also wanted to stop the exhorbitant and illegal bonuses to the top executives.

Even Bill Clinton wanted more control & regulation but was overruled by his own party. Now we have seen the results.



.

Yeah, those Republicans and their obsession with regulating big-business. If only we'd listened to them.

(06-29-2009 04:22 PM)Sophandros Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 03:48 PM)Eagle4life05 Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 03:42 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 03:32 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-29-2009 02:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Waldenbooks....closing 250 stores.
Rite-Aid....closing 117 stores
Pier 0ne....closing 80 stores
Starbucks....closing 600 stores
Ann Taylor....closing 163 stores
Macy's....closing 11 stores
Sears....closing 24 stores
Zales...closing 115 stores
Ruby Tuesdays...closing 70 company owned locations.
Gap....closing 100 stores
Ritz Cameras...closing 300 stores

Just a partial list. Just food for thought......

That list pales in what Obama's Health Care Plan and his idiotic Cap and Trade plan will do.

So what did Bush do FOR us? I sure didn't notice a whole lot while he was in office.

He did a lot more than some of you yahoos would like to give him credit for!

In time he will go down as one of the greatest we have ever had and that was cool as a cumcumber!!!!!

Obama and his health care plan is going to hurt many hospitals and those he the health care field a ton and why? Just so those who don't want to work can get free health care? Sad really!!!! hell I may just stay home and shoot up Herion at least i'll know I want have to worry about a docter bill

You realize that these closings are a direct result of what has happened over the last several years, right?

No one with any sort of common sense and the ability to reason can lay the blame solely on Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush I, or Reagan. Yes, some can take more blame than the others, but at the end of the day, many of these are the result of mismanagement by the companies themselves, changing business models (Amazon has REALLY hurt Waldenbooks, for example), and yes, the poor economy. The last bit has SEVERAL peoples' hands in it going back to the 1980s, but no one really wants to talk about that because it's easy to assign one boogie man instead of actually figuring out what happened, correct the problems, and ensure that it doesn't happen again.

We so stupid. Yuo so smart.

No one on this board has ever discussed policies dating back to Carter, that have crippled the US economy, not to mention references to FDR and TR, and their precedents. Nope, you're so far ahead of everyone else.

Quote:So here's an idea: why don't some of you start proposing alternative plans (and think of them yourselves instead of parroting some yahoo on the radio or Fox News) instead of wasting everyone's time with your juvenile (at best) and worthless comments?

Becose we are stoopid, remember? No one has discussed energy alternatives, educational reforms, shrinking the Federal Gov't citing various agencies and offices. Nope, never happened here. We're all DUMN!