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RE: Unions’ Health Benefits May Avoid Tax Under Proposal
(06-30-2009 11:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 05:50 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 02:50 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-29-2009 01:15 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(06-29-2009 12:46 PM)Rebel Wrote:  He's acting like this is a GDamn Banana Republic and you libs are going along with it. He's destroying this country as our ancestors knew it.

Sure. Many people want this country destroyed. It's called envy. If Person B can't get it, they'll damn well make sure Person A can't have it either. Oh, it's cloaked in socially and politically correct garb, like "fair share," "equality, or equitable," "reparations" "affirmitive action", or what have you. Envy is after all, a deadly sin.

It's even championed by people who have theirs...but who know that they can stretch out their personal comfort by inciting class warfare to hold back others who want to succeed.

In the end (and we are headed toward the end) the base always tries to tear down the noble.
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He damn sure would not be in favor of theft.04-cheers
Really? Doesn't He expect 10% of your income go to the Church? Seems to me that is "theft".

Wow, your ignorance of religion is just as profound as your ignorance of everything else. Good to know your stupidity doesn't discriminate on the basis of subject matter.
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TheDancinMonarch Wrote " I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid principle and I regret that decision now."

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I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid "Conservative principle" and I regret that decision now.

What stupid conservative principle. Makes no sense -- Explain.
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(06-30-2009 11:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Really? Doesn't He expect 10% of your income go to the Church? Seems to me that is "theft".

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I don't want to answer for the guy, but I know a lot of people who voted 3rd party that regret it today because of what has happened. He's not really saying conservative principles are stupid, just that he should have accepted the 60% of McCain he agreed with to do his part in preventing the Kenyan from turning this place into a Banana Republic.

RobertN, lemme know when the churches get the power to seize that 10% by threat of arrest and at the force of a gun. Until then, you are arguing out of your ass. As usual.
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(06-30-2009 11:55 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  TheDancinMonarch Wrote " I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid principle and I regret that decision now."

Inserting Rebel "Conservative principles"

I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid "Conservative principle" and I regret that decision now.

What stupid conservative principle. Makes no sense -- Explain.

It's simple. I am a conservative and McCain isn't. Would McCain veto Cap and Trade? Would he veto an amnesty bill?
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RE: Unions’ Health Benefits May Avoid Tax Under Proposal
(06-30-2009 11:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 05:50 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 02:50 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-29-2009 01:15 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(06-29-2009 12:46 PM)Rebel Wrote:  He's acting like this is a GDamn Banana Republic and you libs are going along with it. He's destroying this country as our ancestors knew it.

Sure. Many people want this country destroyed. It's called envy. If Person B can't get it, they'll damn well make sure Person A can't have it either. Oh, it's cloaked in socially and politically correct garb, like "fair share," "equality, or equitable," "reparations" "affirmitive action", or what have you. Envy is after all, a deadly sin.

It's even championed by people who have theirs...but who know that they can stretch out their personal comfort by inciting class warfare to hold back others who want to succeed.

In the end (and we are headed toward the end) the base always tries to tear down the noble.
WWJD?

He damn sure would not be in favor of theft.04-cheers
Really? Doesn't He expect 10% of your income go to the Church? Seems to me that is "theft".

You are joking... right?03-lmfao04-cheers
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RE: Unions’ Health Benefits May Avoid Tax Under Proposal
(06-30-2009 12:57 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 11:55 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  TheDancinMonarch Wrote " I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid principle and I regret that decision now."

Inserting Rebel "Conservative principles"

I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid "Conservative principle" and I regret that decision now.

What stupid conservative principle. Makes no sense -- Explain.

It's simple. I am a conservative and McCain isn't. Would McCain veto Cap and Trade? Would he veto an amnesty bill?

McCain would veto a Cap and Trade as proposed by Pelosi and Reid.

As for the illegals, the best hope is like the summer of 2007-- keep it boxed in Congress. It isn't getting out this year.
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(06-30-2009 12:57 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 11:55 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  TheDancinMonarch Wrote " I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid principle and I regret that decision now."

Inserting Rebel "Conservative principles"

I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid "Conservative principle" and I regret that decision now.

What stupid conservative principle. Makes no sense -- Explain.

It's simple. I am a conservative and McCain isn't. Would McCain veto Cap and Trade? Would he veto an amnesty bill?

I don't know, nobody does. The choice we had is as it always has been the lesser of 2 evils. McCain was the lesser of two evils in my mind. McCain my friend is more conservative than ObamaUsurper. And As Steve pointed out, BO could not even qualify to sweep the floors at the WhiteHouse.
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(06-30-2009 05:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 12:57 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 11:55 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  TheDancinMonarch Wrote " I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid principle and I regret that decision now."

Inserting Rebel "Conservative principles"

I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid "Conservative principle" and I regret that decision now.

What stupid conservative principle. Makes no sense -- Explain.

It's simple. I am a conservative and McCain isn't. Would McCain veto Cap and Trade? Would he veto an amnesty bill?

I don't know, nobody does. The choice we had is as it always has been the lesser of 2 evils. McCain was the lesser of two evils in my mind. McCain my friend is more conservative than ObamaUsurper. And As Steve pointed out, BO could not even qualify to sweep the floors at the WhiteHouse.

To put thing into their proper perspective, let me add this. I voted for Bush twice. No alternative actually. And maybe if I hadn't and one of those other clowns had won things might be worse. Who knows. But every time I looked at myself in the mirror I had to take some responsibility for what was going on (prescription drug benefit as an example), so this last time with a choice between bad and worse I chose to abstain. Now I regret it. But life goes on and I do hope that in some future election I will have an opportunity to cast a positive, I really like this guy/gal, vote.
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RE: Unions’ Health Benefits May Avoid Tax Under Proposal
(06-30-2009 06:17 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 05:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 12:57 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 11:55 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  TheDancinMonarch Wrote " I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid principle and I regret that decision now."

Inserting Rebel "Conservative principles"

I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid "Conservative principle" and I regret that decision now.

What stupid conservative principle. Makes no sense -- Explain.

It's simple. I am a conservative and McCain isn't. Would McCain veto Cap and Trade? Would he veto an amnesty bill?

I don't know, nobody does. The choice we had is as it always has been the lesser of 2 evils. McCain was the lesser of two evils in my mind. McCain my friend is more conservative than ObamaUsurper. And As Steve pointed out, BO could not even qualify to sweep the floors at the WhiteHouse.

To put thing into their proper perspective, let me add this. I voted for Bush twice. No alternative actually. And maybe if I hadn't and one of those other clowns had won things might be worse. Who knows. But every time I looked at myself in the mirror I had to take some responsibility for what was going on (prescription drug benefit as an example), so this last time with a choice between bad and worse I chose to abstain. Now I regret it. But life goes on and I do hope that in some future election I will have an opportunity to cast a positive, I really like this guy/gal, vote.

Don't hold your breath. Lets see, 3 of the past 4 elections I have been voting for the lesser of the two evils.

I really liked Reagan in 80, and 84. Really liked Bush 41 in 88, and Bush 43 in 2000.
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(06-30-2009 06:33 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 12:54 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  Considering how much (money and time) the unions put into the Obama election effort, is anyone actually surprised by this?

I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid principle and I regret that decision now. It would not have changed the result but I wouldn't feel so badly about it now. I just hope we can ride out the storm until 2012. But even should we win then, the dims will just take to the streets like the Iranians have. They are shameless and will try anything to retain the power.

I'm sure that a lot of people who voted ObamaMessiah regret it now. What "stupid principle' are you referring to?

98% of Blacks voted for him only because they wanted the first black man elected as president, and many whites also. I think some regret that now. But, what I will never understand is 78% of Jews voted for Him, for reasons unknown other than they traditionally vote democrat, and I'm sure they regret it as well.

That statistic is about half true. Sure, a lot of black people that wouldn't normally vote came out to vote for a black man. But 98% of us voted for him because he's a democrat, which is probably around the same figure as it is for all democrats. I don't think you would see the same turnout for a Watts or a Steele.
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(06-30-2009 07:04 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 06:17 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 05:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 12:57 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 11:55 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  TheDancinMonarch Wrote " I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid principle and I regret that decision now."

Inserting Rebel "Conservative principles"

I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid "Conservative principle" and I regret that decision now.

What stupid conservative principle. Makes no sense -- Explain.

It's simple. I am a conservative and McCain isn't. Would McCain veto Cap and Trade? Would he veto an amnesty bill?

I don't know, nobody does. The choice we had is as it always has been the lesser of 2 evils. McCain was the lesser of two evils in my mind. McCain my friend is more conservative than ObamaUsurper. And As Steve pointed out, BO could not even qualify to sweep the floors at the WhiteHouse.

To put thing into their proper perspective, let me add this. I voted for Bush twice. No alternative actually. And maybe if I hadn't and one of those other clowns had won things might be worse. Who knows. But every time I looked at myself in the mirror I had to take some responsibility for what was going on (prescription drug benefit as an example), so this last time with a choice between bad and worse I chose to abstain. Now I regret it. But life goes on and I do hope that in some future election I will have an opportunity to cast a positive, I really like this guy/gal, vote.

Don't hold your breath. Lets see, 3 of the past 4 elections I have been voting for the lesser of the two evils.

I really liked Reagan in 80, and 84. Really liked Bush 41 in 88, and Bush 43 in 2000.

I took me to age 45 to understand that ...I have ALWAYS voted for the lesser of two evils. Minor damage control is the only reason to even bother.05-stirthepot
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(07-01-2009 05:50 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  But 98% of us voted for him because he's a democrat, which is probably around the same figure as it is for all democrats.

Has there ever been a time when 98% of blacks voted for the Democrats, especially since it was the Democrats that were opposed to the abolition of slavery and the Civil Rights Act? Didn't Bush get a little over 10% of the black vote?
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(07-01-2009 05:50 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 06:33 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(06-30-2009 12:54 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  Considering how much (money and time) the unions put into the Obama election effort, is anyone actually surprised by this?

I did not vote for McCain as I was standing on some stupid principle and I regret that decision now. It would not have changed the result but I wouldn't feel so badly about it now. I just hope we can ride out the storm until 2012. But even should we win then, the dims will just take to the streets like the Iranians have. They are shameless and will try anything to retain the power.

I'm sure that a lot of people who voted ObamaMessiah regret it now. What "stupid principle' are you referring to?

98% of Blacks voted for him only because they wanted the first black man elected as president, and many whites also. I think some regret that now. But, what I will never understand is 78% of Jews voted for Him, for reasons unknown other than they traditionally vote democrat, and I'm sure they regret it as well.

That statistic is about half true. Sure, a lot of black people that wouldn't normally vote came out to vote for a black man. But 98% of us voted for him because he's a democrat, which is probably around the same figure as it is for all democrats. I don't think you would see the same turnout for a Watts or a Steele.

Steele didn't get the majority of black votes in his bid for the MD senate seat, so your point is correct. Ironically, Steele lost to a white jewish man.

Such results absolutely BEG the question, of why do blacks vote so consistently for Dems, when you can look around every day and see that Dems have never fulfilled their promises to that community.
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They've actually made the situation worse. Much, much worse.

...but hey, Al, Jesse, and the Dem politicians have all gotten filthy rich.
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before the "great society" buyoff, blacks voted GOP by about 65% worth of their demographic

imagine what a conservative media could do with the current Duke Rape case to hurt this current voting trend...if we had one that is
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Bush actually got 11% now that I look at it. But in modern times the black vote has gone overwhelmingly towards the democrats.

And some of those people that opposed the Civil Rights Act took those ideals on to the Republican party. Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms come to mind.
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(07-01-2009 08:20 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Bush actually got 11% now that I look at it. But in modern times the black vote has gone overwhelmingly towards the democrats.

And some of those people that opposed the Civil Rights Act took those ideals on to the Republican party. Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms come to mind.

...and some actually stayed, Robert Byrd.
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and Al Gore's dad and Bill Clinton's mentor


a higher percentage of Republicans voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act than did Democrats. but after LBJ paved the way for complete dependence on the Federal Governemnt with the Great Society it really helped seal the deal on this one
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