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(06-29-2009 09:59 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Senator Inhofe on fox news says this is dead in the Senate. Big scandal brewing. EPA buried a study, apparently at the request of the White House after Obama said he was pushing through this fraud in spite of the findings. Study says co2 no higher than mid 20 century, maybe lower. Finds the science behind this biggest hoax in history is wrong.

THAT would be huge.

I have said that the 20th C CO2 data is presented as reliable. I could accept those changes in concentrations. It has been the temp measurements and the various extrapolations that are called into question.

However, if they altered the CO2 data, well, that's just incredible. Although I'm guessing what this report showed is that when the methods used to determine historical CO2 concentrations were compared to mid-20th C results, the historical methods showed different results than what was measured back then.

That's my guess.
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(06-29-2009 09:57 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  
(06-26-2009 06:13 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Yes, 8 SCUMBAG turn coats crossed party lines and gave democrats the votes needed to pass. These RINO's should not get RNC money, in fact the RNC should spend money with democrats in those districts!!!!

03-lmfao

Are you fools surprised. Obama has them all in his back pocket, and they will cross over when he tells them to. 05-stirthepot

Kinda like how "Damien the Anti-Christ" always gets these large dogs to do his dirty work?
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ObamaEPAGate

That scandal would be HUGE.
WhiteHouse would lose creditability. Thou the ObamaLoons will eat any and all puke explanation they force feed them.
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(06-29-2009 10:41 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  ObamaEPAGate

That scandal would be HUGE.
WhiteHouse would lose creditability. Thou the ObamaLoons will eat any and all puke explanation they force feed them.

Carol Browner, Obama's Climate Czar, is a former card carrying member of the Socialist International.

I'd expect her to lie, cheat and steal anything to achive her Leftist Goals.
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(06-29-2009 10:07 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(06-29-2009 09:59 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Senator Inhofe on fox news says this is dead in the Senate. Big scandal brewing. EPA buried a study, apparently at the request of the White House after Obama said he was pushing through this fraud in spite of the findings. Study says co2 no higher than mid 20 century, maybe lower. Finds the science behind this biggest hoax in history is wrong.

THAT would be huge.

I have said that the 20th C CO2 data is presented as reliable. I could accept those changes in concentrations. It has been the temp measurements and the various extrapolations that are called into question.

However, if they altered the CO2 data, well, that's just incredible. Although I'm guessing what this report showed is that when the methods used to determine historical CO2 concentrations were compared to mid-20th C results, the historical methods showed different results than what was measured back then.

That's my guess.

My mistake Dr.
Temperatures are the same or lower, not co2. Sorry for my misquote.
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You can read more about the faux scandal here:

http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-24-...ppression/

Quote:The Competitive Enterprise Institute released a draft of the “suppressed” report, which confirms the EPA’s explanation: The agency didn’t think much of the report because it’s authored by an economist claiming to be a climatologist.


And here's the report:

http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/DOC062509-004.pdf
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(06-29-2009 11:23 AM)At Ease Wrote:  You can read more about the faux scandal here:

http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-24-...ppression/

Quote:The Competitive Enterprise Institute released a draft of the “suppressed” report, which confirms the EPA’s explanation: The agency didn’t think much of the report because it’s authored by an economist claiming to be a climatologist.

Your link actually provided me a good laugh. That is a case of really bad spin.
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Just Look How Little It Took To Turn These People. SellOUTS


Republicans who helped pass "cap and trade" benefitted from environmental donations
By: Kevin Mooney
Commentary Staff Writer

06/28/09 3:10 PM EDT

House Republicans who received campaign donations from environmental groups helped make up the narrow margin of votes needed to send the Waxman-Markey “cap and trade” bill over to the U.S. Senate.
The legislation passed by a vote of just 219 to 212 on Friday with critical assistance from eight Republicans. They are: Mary Bono Mack (Calif.), Mike Castle (Del.), Mark Kirk (Ill.), Leonard Lance (N.J.), Frank LoBiondo (N.J.), John McHugh (N.Y.), Dave Reichert (Wash.), Chris Smith (N.J.). This support proved critical with 44 Democrats voting against the regulatory scheme.

Political Action Committees (PACs) connected with the League of Conservation Voters, the Sierra Club, Ocean Champions and Republicans for Environmental Protection have made donations to most of these same eight Republican lawmakers in recent election cycles, according to OpenSecrets.Org.

Rep. Kirk of Illinois, for instance, was among the top 20 recipients of PAC donations from environmental groups in the 2008 election cycle. He received $1,000 from the League of Conservation Voters (PAC), $4,000 from Ocean Champions (PAC) and $4,000 from Republicans for Environmental Protection (PAC). In this same cycle Republicans for Environmental Protection also donated $4,000 in PAC funds to Rep. Reichert.

The League of Conservation Voters and the Sierra Club have directed support toward the New Jersey Republicans who voted for the new regulations. Rep. LoBiondo received $1,020 from the League of Conservation Voters (PAC) in the 2008 election cycle and $2,010 from the Sierra Club (PAC) in the 2006 election cycle.

Rep. Lance, who first elected to Congress in 2008, has already received a donation from the League of Conservation Voters (PAC) for the 2010 election cycle in the amount of $250. Rep. Smith also received a $250 (PAC) donation from the League of Conservation Voters in the 2008 election cycle.

Rep. Mike Castle, the Delaware Republican, has also attracted support from these groups. The League of Conservation Voters (PAC) donated $750 in the 2008 election cycle and Republicans for Environmental Protection donated $1,000 in the 2006 election cycle.
Environmental activists remain heavily weighted in favor of the Democratic Party, according to OpenSecrets.Org.

In the 2008 election cycle 94 percent of the donations from green groups went to the Democrats and just 6 percent to the Republicans. However, this same handful of Republicans now appears to be strategically positioned.

Among the top 20 recipients of PAC funds from green groups were former Rep. Chris Shays (R-Conn.), who pulled in $9,519 in the 2008 election cycle, and Rep. Vernon Buchanan (R-Fla.) with $14,200. Only eight Republican votes were needed this time around but it would seem others remain pliable.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinio...85812.html
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