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Report: VA Hospital Botched Cancer Treatments; VA Hospital Inspections Raise Health C
What does Government Run Healthcare look like? Look no further than the VA.

Report: VA Hospital Botched Cancer Treatments
Monday, June 22, 2009


PHILADELPHIA — Ninety-two veterans were given incorrect radiation doses in a common surgical procedure to treat prostate cancer during a six-year period at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Philadelphia, according to newspaper reports Sunday.

A hospital team that performed the procedure botched it on 92 of 116 occasions and continued the treatment for a year even though monitoring equipment was broken, The New York Times said. The Philadelphia Inquirer said treatment errors occurred in 92 of 114 cases.

The cases involved brachytherapy, in which implanted radioactive seeds are used to kill cancer cells. Most veterans got significantly less than the prescribed dose while others received excessive radiation to nearby tissue and organs.

A federal commission announced last fall that an inspection at the hospital was under way partly because of the number of patients given incorrect radiation doses. The medical center suspended its prostate cancer treatment program as a result of the ongoing investigation.

Investigators found that 57 implants delivered too little radiation to the prostate and 35 cases involved overdoses to other parts of the body, according to a Nuclear Regulatory Commission report published in the Federal Register this month. An unspecified number of patients had both underdoses to the prostate and overdoses in other areas.

All of the affected veterans have received follow-up care, and eight got additional seed implants at a Seattle VA center, according to Dale Warman of the Philadelphia VA Medical Center. Warman said the hospital leadership "takes the ... situation very seriously and has taken every step possible to correct or mitigate the problem."

Four of the men have since died, but Warman said none of the deaths was connected to prostate cancer or the treatment.

Several staff members, including oncologist Gary Kao, who was under contract to the VA and was involved in nearly all of the cases, are no longer employed at the hospital. Kao's lawyer, Jack L. Gruenstein, told the Times its account of the doctor's role was "false" but declined to elaborate.

A team from the commission, which oversees such radiation therapy, is scheduled to be in Philadelphia this week to investigate.

"As we have done throughout this process, Philadelphia VA Medical Center staff are prepared to share whatever records and information are necessary to discover what happened, why it happened, and to take steps to prevent it from happening again," Warman said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528024,00.html

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VA Hospital Inspections Raise Health Concerns

06/16/09 6:49 pm -reporter: David Tate producer: Amy Foster

A startling report released on Tuesday by the Veteran's Administration Inspector General outlines severe training deficiencies in many of our Veterans Affairs hospitals.

The deficiencies have led to the possible infection of thousands of veterans with diseases like HIV and Hepatitis via common procedures like colonoscopies. This comes after surprise inspections of 42 VA hospitals, which showed more than half did not meet standards.

The VA hospital in Salem was one of 42 facilities given surprise inspections last month, following the discovery of sterilization problems in a Tennessee facility. VA officials say the widespread deficiencies, after repeated warnings, suggest problems in the organizational structure.

Dr. Dennis B. Weiserbs with the Endoscopy Center of SW Virginia said, "The VA is an important part of our health care system so I think this is an interest to everyone."

Doctor Dennis Weiserbs understands the issue at hand well. He has worked in a VA hospital and now runs an office that is in the colonoscopy business. After every procedure, his instruments get a multi-layered cleaning that last nearly an hour.

"Our technicians have the most important job here and that's to follow a sequence of steps to disinfect the scopes," Weiserbs said.

A job that belongs to technician Vickie Sumner. "You don't want anyone to get an infection. You want to make sure the procedure is clean," Sumner said.

And that includes enzyme soaks, bit by bit scrubbing, ultrasonic cleaning with chemicals, flushing and then an alcohol treatment.

According to Weiserbs, the key to ensuring no patient is contaminated is through training and keeping the sterilization process consistent. Something the VA in general is being accused of not doing

We tried to contact the VA Hospital in Salem regarding any specific information on the inspection there. Our calls have not been returned.

http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0609/632542.html
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(06-25-2009 12:10 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  What does Government Run Healthcare look like? Look no further than the VA.

Report: VA Hospital Botched Cancer Treatments
Monday, June 22, 2009


PHILADELPHIA — Ninety-two veterans were given incorrect radiation doses in a common surgical procedure to treat prostate cancer during a six-year period at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Philadelphia, according to newspaper reports Sunday.

A hospital team that performed the procedure botched it on 92 of 116 occasions and continued the treatment for a year even though monitoring equipment was broken, The New York Times said. The Philadelphia Inquirer said treatment errors occurred in 92 of 114 cases.

The cases involved brachytherapy, in which implanted radioactive seeds are used to kill cancer cells. Most veterans got significantly less than the prescribed dose while others received excessive radiation to nearby tissue and organs.

A federal commission announced last fall that an inspection at the hospital was under way partly because of the number of patients given incorrect radiation doses. The medical center suspended its prostate cancer treatment program as a result of the ongoing investigation.

Investigators found that 57 implants delivered too little radiation to the prostate and 35 cases involved overdoses to other parts of the body, according to a Nuclear Regulatory Commission report published in the Federal Register this month. An unspecified number of patients had both underdoses to the prostate and overdoses in other areas.

All of the affected veterans have received follow-up care, and eight got additional seed implants at a Seattle VA center, according to Dale Warman of the Philadelphia VA Medical Center. Warman said the hospital leadership "takes the ... situation very seriously and has taken every step possible to correct or mitigate the problem."

Four of the men have since died, but Warman said none of the deaths was connected to prostate cancer or the treatment.

Several staff members, including oncologist Gary Kao, who was under contract to the VA and was involved in nearly all of the cases, are no longer employed at the hospital. Kao's lawyer, Jack L. Gruenstein, told the Times its account of the doctor's role was "false" but declined to elaborate.

A team from the commission, which oversees such radiation therapy, is scheduled to be in Philadelphia this week to investigate.

"As we have done throughout this process, Philadelphia VA Medical Center staff are prepared to share whatever records and information are necessary to discover what happened, why it happened, and to take steps to prevent it from happening again," Warman said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528024,00.html

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VA Hospital Inspections Raise Health Concerns

06/16/09 6:49 pm -reporter: David Tate producer: Amy Foster

A startling report released on Tuesday by the Veteran's Administration Inspector General outlines severe training deficiencies in many of our Veterans Affairs hospitals.

The deficiencies have led to the possible infection of thousands of veterans with diseases like HIV and Hepatitis via common procedures like colonoscopies. This comes after surprise inspections of 42 VA hospitals, which showed more than half did not meet standards.

The VA hospital in Salem was one of 42 facilities given surprise inspections last month, following the discovery of sterilization problems in a Tennessee facility. VA officials say the widespread deficiencies, after repeated warnings, suggest problems in the organizational structure.

Dr. Dennis B. Weiserbs with the Endoscopy Center of SW Virginia said, "The VA is an important part of our health care system so I think this is an interest to everyone."

Doctor Dennis Weiserbs understands the issue at hand well. He has worked in a VA hospital and now runs an office that is in the colonoscopy business. After every procedure, his instruments get a multi-layered cleaning that last nearly an hour.

"Our technicians have the most important job here and that's to follow a sequence of steps to disinfect the scopes," Weiserbs said.

A job that belongs to technician Vickie Sumner. "You don't want anyone to get an infection. You want to make sure the procedure is clean," Sumner said.

And that includes enzyme soaks, bit by bit scrubbing, ultrasonic cleaning with chemicals, flushing and then an alcohol treatment.

According to Weiserbs, the key to ensuring no patient is contaminated is through training and keeping the sterilization process consistent. Something the VA in general is being accused of not doing

We tried to contact the VA Hospital in Salem regarding any specific information on the inspection there. Our calls have not been returned.

http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0609/632542.html
From what I have read, those were mostly under Bush's watch. Just because Bush did nothing to fix problems doesn't mean under a competent government that it couldn't work.
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(06-25-2009 01:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  From what I have read, those were mostly under Bush's watch. Just because Bush did nothing to fix problems doesn't mean under a competent government that it couldn't work.

Geezus boy !!!!!!!

Stop trying to talk about things you know nothing of !!!!

How many VA Hospitals have you ever been too ?????

That's exactly right ... ZERO and Bush, Clinton, all the way back to when VA Hospitals were established are guilty of absolute reckless abandon for their Fighting Men and Women who have SERVED THEIR COUNTRY and need the promises they were given kept to them !!!!!!!!!

You see it in every Post I make concerning Government Run Health Care, HAVE EVERYONE GO TO A LOCAL VA HOSPITAL FOR just 6 MONTHS to see the FUTURE of AMERICAN HEALTH CARE.

You want to see Shoe Throwers ... yeah right ..... they will storm the White House and Overthrow the Nation before they allow this Illinois Dud to lop this onto them.

Stop wanting something that is completely awful when you have NO IDEA what that COMPLETELY AWFUL CONSIST OF !!!!!!!!!!! Just to argue with or try to compel a Liberal Point above a Conservative one !!!!!!!

This IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE for anyone that has ever tried use a VA Hospital for more than small issues !!!!!!! And Sonny Boy, VA Hospitals are what you are going to have sprung up all over this Country and it makes me fcking SICK to think it !!!!!!! 03-puke 03-puke 03-puke

Go join the Army, get your ass wounded BIG TIME, deal with the Government and the VA as you slowly sit there and DIE or either dump the VA, in which case they then Dump You, and go get some REAL HEALTH CARE so you will LIVE.

Show up for a 12.15pm appointment and MAYBE, if you are one of the LUCKY ONES, get to see a Doctor by 3pm or 5pm. And I mean that is good time there.

How long does it take you to from "Walk-In to Walk-Out" to complete your usual Doctors Visit Robert ???? 1.30 or 2 Hours Tops from Walking in the Doctors Door to Walking out the Doctors Door ????? Go the VA and enjoy the Entire Day at that fine Establishment from Walk-In to Walk-Out .... and yet you want this changed FOR EVERY AMERICAN, to from 4 to 6 Hours Just To See A Doctor, SIMPLY BECAUSE this is what some Liberal Assh0le is Pushing on US !!!!!

I bet you were just Head-Over-Heels about this SAME ISSUE when Bush talked about it or when Clinton Wanted it.

I have NEVER wanted this when Bush talked about it, Clinton tried it, Bush 41 Wanted to play with it, Reagan even took a look at it, Carter wanted an entire Welfare State about as bad as Obama wants and on and on.

Don't want this on us just to defend some Stupid Liberal or Conservative Ideal .... you better think before you leap Jose, because once this crap is done, there is no going back and God help us all !!!!!!!

You live in a Little Boys Bullsh't Bubble you know that ????

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RE: Report: VA Hospital Botched Cancer Treatments; VA Hospital Inspections Raise Health C
(06-25-2009 01:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-25-2009 12:10 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  What does Government Run Healthcare look like? Look no further than the VA.

Report: VA Hospital Botched Cancer Treatments
Monday, June 22, 2009


PHILADELPHIA — Ninety-two veterans were given incorrect radiation doses in a common surgical procedure to treat prostate cancer during a six-year period at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Philadelphia, according to newspaper reports Sunday.

A hospital team that performed the procedure botched it on 92 of 116 occasions and continued the treatment for a year even though monitoring equipment was broken, The New York Times said. The Philadelphia Inquirer said treatment errors occurred in 92 of 114 cases.

The cases involved brachytherapy, in which implanted radioactive seeds are used to kill cancer cells. Most veterans got significantly less than the prescribed dose while others received excessive radiation to nearby tissue and organs.

A federal commission announced last fall that an inspection at the hospital was under way partly because of the number of patients given incorrect radiation doses. The medical center suspended its prostate cancer treatment program as a result of the ongoing investigation.

Investigators found that 57 implants delivered too little radiation to the prostate and 35 cases involved overdoses to other parts of the body, according to a Nuclear Regulatory Commission report published in the Federal Register this month. An unspecified number of patients had both underdoses to the prostate and overdoses in other areas.

All of the affected veterans have received follow-up care, and eight got additional seed implants at a Seattle VA center, according to Dale Warman of the Philadelphia VA Medical Center. Warman said the hospital leadership "takes the ... situation very seriously and has taken every step possible to correct or mitigate the problem."

Four of the men have since died, but Warman said none of the deaths was connected to prostate cancer or the treatment.

Several staff members, including oncologist Gary Kao, who was under contract to the VA and was involved in nearly all of the cases, are no longer employed at the hospital. Kao's lawyer, Jack L. Gruenstein, told the Times its account of the doctor's role was "false" but declined to elaborate.

A team from the commission, which oversees such radiation therapy, is scheduled to be in Philadelphia this week to investigate.

"As we have done throughout this process, Philadelphia VA Medical Center staff are prepared to share whatever records and information are necessary to discover what happened, why it happened, and to take steps to prevent it from happening again," Warman said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528024,00.html

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VA Hospital Inspections Raise Health Concerns

06/16/09 6:49 pm -reporter: David Tate producer: Amy Foster

A startling report released on Tuesday by the Veteran's Administration Inspector General outlines severe training deficiencies in many of our Veterans Affairs hospitals.

The deficiencies have led to the possible infection of thousands of veterans with diseases like HIV and Hepatitis via common procedures like colonoscopies. This comes after surprise inspections of 42 VA hospitals, which showed more than half did not meet standards.

The VA hospital in Salem was one of 42 facilities given surprise inspections last month, following the discovery of sterilization problems in a Tennessee facility. VA officials say the widespread deficiencies, after repeated warnings, suggest problems in the organizational structure.

Dr. Dennis B. Weiserbs with the Endoscopy Center of SW Virginia said, "The VA is an important part of our health care system so I think this is an interest to everyone."

Doctor Dennis Weiserbs understands the issue at hand well. He has worked in a VA hospital and now runs an office that is in the colonoscopy business. After every procedure, his instruments get a multi-layered cleaning that last nearly an hour.

"Our technicians have the most important job here and that's to follow a sequence of steps to disinfect the scopes," Weiserbs said.

A job that belongs to technician Vickie Sumner. "You don't want anyone to get an infection. You want to make sure the procedure is clean," Sumner said.

And that includes enzyme soaks, bit by bit scrubbing, ultrasonic cleaning with chemicals, flushing and then an alcohol treatment.

According to Weiserbs, the key to ensuring no patient is contaminated is through training and keeping the sterilization process consistent. Something the VA in general is being accused of not doing

We tried to contact the VA Hospital in Salem regarding any specific information on the inspection there. Our calls have not been returned.

http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0609/632542.html
From what I have read, those were mostly under Bush's watch. Just because Bush did nothing to fix problems doesn't mean under a competent government that it couldn't work.

You really need to pull your head out of your sss.

I dont wish this on anyone, but if there is a guinea pig needed the 1st week Socialized healthcare is put into practice....I really hope you are it.
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(06-25-2009 01:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-25-2009 12:10 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  What does Government Run Healthcare look like? Look no further than the VA.

Report: VA Hospital Botched Cancer Treatments
Monday, June 22, 2009


PHILADELPHIA — Ninety-two veterans were given incorrect radiation doses in a common surgical procedure to treat prostate cancer during a six-year period at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Philadelphia, according to newspaper reports Sunday.

A hospital team that performed the procedure botched it on 92 of 116 occasions and continued the treatment for a year even though monitoring equipment was broken, The New York Times said. The Philadelphia Inquirer said treatment errors occurred in 92 of 114 cases.

The cases involved brachytherapy, in which implanted radioactive seeds are used to kill cancer cells. Most veterans got significantly less than the prescribed dose while others received excessive radiation to nearby tissue and organs.

A federal commission announced last fall that an inspection at the hospital was under way partly because of the number of patients given incorrect radiation doses. The medical center suspended its prostate cancer treatment program as a result of the ongoing investigation.

Investigators found that 57 implants delivered too little radiation to the prostate and 35 cases involved overdoses to other parts of the body, according to a Nuclear Regulatory Commission report published in the Federal Register this month. An unspecified number of patients had both underdoses to the prostate and overdoses in other areas.

All of the affected veterans have received follow-up care, and eight got additional seed implants at a Seattle VA center, according to Dale Warman of the Philadelphia VA Medical Center. Warman said the hospital leadership "takes the ... situation very seriously and has taken every step possible to correct or mitigate the problem."

Four of the men have since died, but Warman said none of the deaths was connected to prostate cancer or the treatment.

Several staff members, including oncologist Gary Kao, who was under contract to the VA and was involved in nearly all of the cases, are no longer employed at the hospital. Kao's lawyer, Jack L. Gruenstein, told the Times its account of the doctor's role was "false" but declined to elaborate.

A team from the commission, which oversees such radiation therapy, is scheduled to be in Philadelphia this week to investigate.

"As we have done throughout this process, Philadelphia VA Medical Center staff are prepared to share whatever records and information are necessary to discover what happened, why it happened, and to take steps to prevent it from happening again," Warman said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528024,00.html

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VA Hospital Inspections Raise Health Concerns

06/16/09 6:49 pm -reporter: David Tate producer: Amy Foster

A startling report released on Tuesday by the Veteran's Administration Inspector General outlines severe training deficiencies in many of our Veterans Affairs hospitals.

The deficiencies have led to the possible infection of thousands of veterans with diseases like HIV and Hepatitis via common procedures like colonoscopies. This comes after surprise inspections of 42 VA hospitals, which showed more than half did not meet standards.

The VA hospital in Salem was one of 42 facilities given surprise inspections last month, following the discovery of sterilization problems in a Tennessee facility. VA officials say the widespread deficiencies, after repeated warnings, suggest problems in the organizational structure.

Dr. Dennis B. Weiserbs with the Endoscopy Center of SW Virginia said, "The VA is an important part of our health care system so I think this is an interest to everyone."

Doctor Dennis Weiserbs understands the issue at hand well. He has worked in a VA hospital and now runs an office that is in the colonoscopy business. After every procedure, his instruments get a multi-layered cleaning that last nearly an hour.

"Our technicians have the most important job here and that's to follow a sequence of steps to disinfect the scopes," Weiserbs said.

A job that belongs to technician Vickie Sumner. "You don't want anyone to get an infection. You want to make sure the procedure is clean," Sumner said.

And that includes enzyme soaks, bit by bit scrubbing, ultrasonic cleaning with chemicals, flushing and then an alcohol treatment.

According to Weiserbs, the key to ensuring no patient is contaminated is through training and keeping the sterilization process consistent. Something the VA in general is being accused of not doing

We tried to contact the VA Hospital in Salem regarding any specific information on the inspection there. Our calls have not been returned.

http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0609/632542.html
From what I have read, those were mostly under Bush's watch. Just because Bush did nothing to fix problems doesn't mean under a competent government that it couldn't work.

I submit that this system has been broken...a long time. I will say though that there are some good VA hospitals. My father and father-in law have been pleased with the care they get at the VA in Fayetteville. Also my brother-in law has reported good things about the VA in the Eglin AFB area in Fla. It seems the ones close to bases seem to do an adequate job. They ARE over crowded though and are full of foreign doctors.
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I think we all agree that the care at VA facilities are worse than at private facilities. At the VA if you are relativity healthy you are going to receive preventive adequate care provided you wait all day to get it. Now, other procedures, especially for wounded disabled people is quite another story. These people are the true guinea pigs. The reason is the wage controls doctors are under. They cannot keep good doctors, they come and go. Often a person gets a new primary care Phy. every couple of months. This contributes to problems on an ongoing basis and the VA administration knows about it and cannot do anything about it. Doctors are scheduled to see 20-25 patients a day, thats means a new patient every 15-20 minutes. Some Doctors have no nurses assisting them compounding the problem.

The VA under Bush concluded that computerizing medical records would help solve problems at the VA. It has been a success and a failure. Doctors now have data overload which makes it easier for them to make mistakes. They also rely too heavily on this system prone to failure and computer glitches. This is what has been purposed for the entire Health care system. Doctors are against it, our leaders are pushing it as a technological money saver.

Everyone must understand that our leaders pushing VA style healthcare on the rest of us, do not have the same healthcare system. Elite healthcare and its free to them.

Its time to wake up and smell the coffee on this one. ObamaMessiah and the Dems are going to kill the best healthcare in the world. It may already be too late to save it.
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Indian health care facilities and hospitals have the same problems as VA facilities. Government control. All day waits to see a doctor and then a week later, letters telling you that the tests the doctor ordered are denied "for lack of funds at this time". Senators with exceptional health plans have no problem killing the rest of us.
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(06-25-2009 07:36 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  I think we all agree that the care at VA facilities are worse than at private facilities. At the VA if you are relativity healthy you are going to receive preventive adequate care provided you wait all day to get it. Now, other procedures, especially for wounded disabled people is quite another story. These people are the true guinea pigs. The reason is the wage controls doctors are under. They cannot keep good doctors, they come and go. Often a person gets a new primary care Phy. every couple of months. This contributes to problems on an ongoing basis and the VA administration knows about it and cannot do anything about it. Doctors are scheduled to see 20-25 patients a day, thats means a new patient every 15-20 minutes. Some Doctors have no nurses assisting them compounding the problem.

The VA under Bush concluded that computerizing medical records would help solve problems at the VA. It has been a success and a failure. Doctors now have data overload which makes it easier for them to make mistakes. They also rely too heavily on this system prone to failure and computer glitches. This is what has been purposed for the entire Health care system. Doctors are against it, our leaders are pushing it as a technological money saver.

Everyone must understand that our leaders pushing VA style healthcare on the rest of us, do not have the same healthcare system. Elite healthcare and its free to them.

Its time to wake up and smell the coffee on this one. ObamaMessiah and the Dems are going to kill the best healthcare in the world. It may already be too late to save it.

I generally agree with you on this. The Canadian system shows the problem. It is great when you are young and in good health...but...as you grow older or have some type of serious trauma or condition, the flaw in the system becomes clear. The young people in Canada praise the system because it "appears" to be free...unfortunately they forget that they really do not USE the system. The same mentality probably occurs with young active duty service men and women....then...the reality sets in after retirement.
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