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Blacks leaving SF...gov't "help" at its best
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0615/p02s04-usgn.html

Who's going to blame the GOP for this? 03-lmfao

Quote:The decline of the black community began decades ago, many say, long before the dotcom boom and the housing bubble pushed housing to a peak median price of $665,000 in 2007.

During a massive redevelopment of Western Addition between 1958 and 1971, hundreds of homes owned by black residents were torn down and businesses razed. Public housing tracts replaced blocks of the large Victorians – houses that may have been dilapidated at the time but would be valuable now.

What I love is that gov't involvement in the early '70s contributed greatly to this "problem" so the obvious solution is...more gov't involvement!
06-16-2009 10:34 AM
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Thomas Sowell has wrote about this in San francisco for years

the libs manipulated the market through all sorts of laws(like "Open Space" laws) which effectively drove the poor away from them in San Francisco
06-16-2009 11:05 AM
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They're doing the poor a favor by enducing them to leave an earthquake zone. Anyone who builds on a fault line deserves to fall into it...
06-16-2009 11:35 AM
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Over the line, SOAF.
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Some might see this as a good thing. Maybe it could work in Detroit and New Orleans? 03-idea
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(06-16-2009 05:42 PM)egoboss407 Wrote:  Some might see this as a good thing. Maybe it could work in Detroit and New Orleans? 03-idea

I see it as a good thing, here's why:

People are allowed to live where they want to. If some segment prefers Stockton over SF, more power to them. I don't know why they make that choice, nor is it my concern, unless they want to share their reasons.
06-17-2009 07:25 AM
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RE: Blacks leaving SF...gov't "help" at its best
an old Sowell column from 2002

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell111502.asp

Quote:What do San Francisco liberals do? They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so just look at the picture on page 58 of the October 28 issue of Fortune magazine. It shows a small, nondescript wooden house, wedged in between two other houses on a street in San Francisco. The caption reads: "Is this house worth $1.2 million?"


San Francisco liberals, like liberals across the country, spend a lot of time talking and wringing their hands about the need for "affordable housing." Yet, wherever liberals have been politically dominant housing prices are most unaffordable.


Liberals proclaim their concern and compassion for minorities and people with low incomes. Yet these are precisely the people who are being forced out of places like San Francisco, which has the highest rents of any city in the country.

The black population of San Francisco went down 15 percent between the 1990 census and the 2000 census. The number of children in San Francisco has also gone down, since people young enough to have children can seldom afford San Francisco housing.

Despite liberals' professed concern for the poor, San Francisco is increasingly dominated by the affluent. It has the highest average income of any city in the country.

That is not necessarily because San Francisco employers are more generous. People who work in San Francisco, but are not paid high salaries, are likely to be living outside the city -- sometimes far outside -- and commuting to work.


All these things might be considered to be just unfortunate coincidences, if the same patterns did not appear time and time again, in other places where liberals have ruled the roost for years on end, whether in San Francisco or elsewhere. You can see the same thing in elite college towns like Cambridge, Massachusetts, as well as in Berkeley across the bay from San Francisco or in Palo Alto, adjacent to Stanford University.


How do liberals manage to leave so much economic and social havoc in their wake, all the while feeling good about themselves and proclaiming their compassion for the poor, minorities, children and others? Economic illiteracy helps, but liberals are also tied in with environmental zealots who promote sweeping bans on the building of housing, using lovely phrases like "open space" and "protecting the environment."

Since housing is subject to supply and demand, like everything else, stifling the supply is enough to cause home prices and apartment rents to shoot up out of sight. History shows clearly that it was not demand which caused the explosive increase in California housing prices that began in the 1970s.


During the decade of the 1970s, when home prices quadrupled in Palo Alto, for example, the population of that city actually declined slightly. The number of children declined so much that several schools in Palo Alto had to be closed.


It wasn't demand that drove the prices up because the average increase in income in California was less than in the rest of the country during the decade when the state pulled way ahead of the rest of the country in the prices of its homes and apartments.


Why did housing prices go up then? Because this was the decade when severe land use restrictions spread through those places in California where liberals were politically dominant. Only in the remaining parts of California could you still find the "affordable housing" that liberals talked so much about.

In recent years, the closing down of military bases has left great expanses of prime land, with magnificent views, available in and around San Francisco. If all this land could be auctioned off on the open market for the building of housing, it could enrich the city, wipe out the housing shortage and bring down rents and home prices. But congressional liberals and San Francisco liberals have made that impossible.


So long as Nancy Pelosi remains in the congressional minority, the rest of the country may escape the effects of San Francisco liberalism. But if such people are ever in the majority, look out!

the last paragraph, with keyword "may" is eerie in hindsight. Even out of the majority, they have lots of power still over these things, plus the fact the policies of local Governments have alot to do with housing prices. He of course has a great new book on the housing bubble.


One way to get rich, in an evil sort of way, is to buy up a bunch of land then start up an "Environmental" movement aimed at restricting development of land you don't own(i.e. the competition).

Conversely, a Machavellian way to be racist(whether conciously or not) is to implement San Francisco type policies in your area.
06-17-2009 08:27 AM
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