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Jimmy Carter is Certifiably Insane
Former President Jimmy Carter says he will ask the Obama administration to remove the militant Palestinian group from the U.S.-designated terror list.

Former President Jimmy Carter will urge the Obama administration to remove Hamas from the terrorist list, FOX News has learned.

Carter, a chief defender of the U.S.-designated terror group, said he will meet with officials in the Obama administration in two days to discuss his latest trip to the Middle East.

Carter said he feels personally responsible that American weapons were used to fight in Gaza Strip last year, when Israeli Defense Forces entered the strip to stop the launch of rockets from there into Israel.

Carter was visiting with Hamas leaders to try to persuade them to accept the international community's conditions for ending its boycott of the Islamic militant group.

The international community has asked Hamas to recognize Israel, renounce violence and accept previous peace deals as part of ongoing efforts for Palestinians overall to acquire their own country. Hamas has refused.

Meanwhile, a Palestinian source told FOX News that the group had discovered two roadside bombs planted near a crossing between Israel and Gaza on a path Carter's convoy took to meet with the group's leaders.

According to the source, the bombs were intended to hit Carter's vehicle as he exited Gaza. There is some suspicion that Hamas extremists linked to Al Qaeda may be behind the attempt.

Hamas is considered a terrorist group by the U.S. and Europe and has been shunned by much of the world. Israel and Egypt have kept Gaza's borders virtually closed since Hamas overran the territory in 2007, two years after Israel withdrew from the territory in a handover to Palestinians.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/...iscovered/
06-16-2009 08:30 AM
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Jimmy Carter has been a loon for about 3 decades now.

I love the PR coup Hamas pulled off by claiming they "discovered" roadside bombs meant for Carter. What a crock that is.03-zzz
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hey, since Saddam was such a saint any groups he was openly paying $20k to for Suicide bombings must not be so bad afterall.

Scary thing is, Obama may well owe this to this terrorist group. They ran freaking phone banks out of gaza for him during the election and who knows how much money they sent Obama's way to help elect him.
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(06-16-2009 08:35 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  Jimmy Carter has been a loon for about 3 decades now.

I love the PR coup Hamas pulled off by claiming they "discovered" roadside bombs meant for Carter. What a crock that is.03-zzz

Crock? You know those joos, always tunneling out of Gaza, planting bombs and IEDs.
06-16-2009 08:38 AM
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What if the Obama administration is actually behind the effort. Taking Hamas off the designated terror list will recognize terror as a tool, and will encourage more terrorist acts. This is why you cannot negotiate with terrorists.
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Jimmy Carters dementia produces: Israel = Nazi's, Palestenians and Hamas = Jews

it also is rootes in the left-wing worldview of the world being nothing more than Rich and Poor, the Jews being Rich and the Palestinians being poor in oppressed by extension. No room for the Poor to ever be Evil in Jimmah's mind, just victims.
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(06-16-2009 08:55 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  What if the Obama administration is actually behind the effort. Taking Hamas off the designated terror list will recognize terror as a tool, and will encourage more terrorist acts. This is why you cannot negotiate with terrorists.

Its very possible, for this reason if not agreement with Carter?...He is paying off the groups that got him elected left and right, one of those groups is Hamas



the AJ report doesn't call this group "Hamas", but it was operated out of Gaza which is a police state controlled by Hamas, nothing gets out of Gaza without approval from Hamas.

Its easy to see also, why Hamas would want a useful idiot in the mold of Jimmy Carter in the whitehouse. They also showed support for Ron paul for similar reasons I'm guessing, but he had no shot at winning
06-16-2009 09:00 AM
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I guess the plot thickens. The FBI severed relations w/ CAIR b/c they were linked to Hamas. Take Hamas off the list, and CAIR resumes its influence.

http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=11903
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Its really amusing Carter does this the same week the near-nuclear Muslim Theocracy in Iran rigged an election and are killing Student protestors while 2 to 3 Million are protesting without guns(since they are illegal) in the streets of Tehran.

And Jimmy Carter releases a statement condemning:

ISRAEL


and in Support defacto of Hamas.....who is a puppet group, controlled and funded by....IRAN


I think this guy has so much Guilt deep down from all the blood shed on his watch in Cambodia, to the fact he basically allowed this Regime in Iran to come to power, that he is in severe denial and trying to convince himself the sky isn't blue.
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this whole article by Cliff May is worth reading:
Romancing the Jihad

Quote:It is no exaggeration to call groups such as MoveOn.org pro-appeasement. Further left on the political spectrum, the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition sympathizes with both Islamists and the Stalinist regime in North Korea — which is in league with Islamist Iran and its client state, Syria. Meanwhile, Hugo Chávez, the Bolivarian-socialist Venezuelan strongman, is developing a strategic alliance with Iran’s ruling mullahs and with Hezbollah, Iran’s terrorist proxy.

In a new book, United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror, Jamie Glazov takes a hard look at this unholy alliance. A historian by training, Glazov is the son of dissidents who fled the Soviet Union only to find that, on American campuses, they were not welcomed by the liberal/Left lumpen professoriate.

Glazov’s book indicts artists and intellectuals of the Left — e.g. George Bernard Shaw, Bertolt Brecht, and Susan Sontag — for having “venerated mass murderers such as Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Ho Chi Minh, habitually excusing their atrocities while blaming Americans and even the victims for their crimes.”

Following the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Left spent several years wandering in the wilderness. Many of them, Glazov suggests, looked upon the terrorist attacks of 9/11 less as an atrocity than as an opportunity to revive a moribund revolutionary movement.

Jimmy Carter, Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, Ramsey Clark, Lynne Stewart, and Stanley Cohen are among the luminaries of the Left Glazov accuses of having found common ground with Islamists.

He notes that the novelist Norman Mailer called the 9/11 hijackers “brilliant” and their terrorism “understandable” because “everything wrong with America led to the point where the country built that tower of Babel which consequently had to be destroyed.”


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There also is an older tradition to build on. In the 1970s, the Red Army Faction — West German Marxist terrorists also known as the Baader-Meinhof gang — went to Jordan to train with the Palestine Liberation Organization. And in 1979, the success of the Islamist Revolution in Iran depended, in large measure, on the support given by the Iranian Left to the Ayatollah Khomeini. Once firmly in power, the clerical regime repaid its leftist enablers with executions, assassinations, and prison sentences. Evidently, no lessons were learned.

Glazov concludes that the Left’s “romance with Islamism is just a logical continuation of the long leftist tradition of worshipping America’s foes. . . . The Left clearly continues to be inspired by its undying Marxist conviction that capitalism is evil and that forces of revolution are rising to overthrow it — and must be supported.” On that basis, militant Islamism is regarded as a “valiant form of ‘resistance’ against American imperialism and oppression.”

If such values as equality, tolerance, and human rights are crushed in the process, that’s a price many on the Left are willing to pay. Those on the Left who disagree should perhaps speak up more loudly and more often.
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Jimmy Carter..the anti-Christ? Who knew...?
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(06-16-2009 01:21 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  Jimmy Carter..the anti-Christ? Who knew...?

Common knowledge

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(06-16-2009 09:41 AM)GGniner Wrote:  and in Support defacto of Hamas.....who is a puppet group, controlled and funded by....IRAN

FIFY. It's a horrible misstatement to say Hamas is a puppet group or that it was created or controlled by outside groups. It owes its existence and power to foreign funding, but until relatively recently, I don't think that foreign governments provided most of its funding. Groups like the Holy Land Foundation and the like did a lot to raise money for it. The roots of Hamas are go back to the Intifada in the 1980s as well as the Muslim Brotherhood in the broader sense. But, it is absolutely not a creation of Iran, and almost certainly doesn't follow marching orders from there.
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(06-16-2009 09:01 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  I guess the plot thickens. The FBI severed relations w/ CAIR b/c they were linked to Hamas. Take Hamas off the list, and CAIR resumes its influence.

http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=11903

The thing that I question here is why the FBI would wait to see the results of a trial (or retrial, since the first one ended in a mistrial) to act on evidence they've had for over 9 years, and facts that have been abundantly obvious for at least 15 years. Either (1) there were new facts that led the FBI to act or (2) it was a political decision. I tend to lean towards the latter as the reason that they severed ties. There is abundant evidence and history of CAIR being a bad actor, and the relationship with the FBI granted them undue credibility.
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(06-16-2009 02:06 PM)I45owl Wrote:  
(06-16-2009 09:01 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  I guess the plot thickens. The FBI severed relations w/ CAIR b/c they were linked to Hamas. Take Hamas off the list, and CAIR resumes its influence.

http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=11903

The thing that I question here is why the FBI would wait to see the results of a trial (or retrial, since the first one ended in a mistrial) to act on evidence they've had for over 9 years, and facts that have been abundantly obvious for at least 15 years. Either (1) there were new facts that led the FBI to act or (2) it was a political decision. I tend to lean towards the latter as the reason that they severed ties. There is abundant evidence and history of CAIR being a bad actor, and the relationship with the FBI granted them undue credibility.

Sure seems political. But as for what goes on in the trenchcoat world, I don't have a need to know.
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