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The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
Israel has developed a revolutionary new system to neutralize missile & RPG attacks against tanks - It is extraordinary simple. but extremely effective - this will change the defensive ability of the most valuable piece of field equipment in an army. At 200 grand a pop, it's expensive.


http://www.jerusalemonline.com/specials20.asp


Will Israel share this new lifesaving technology with the USA? Maybe Maybe not.
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RE: The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
(06-12-2009 12:13 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Israel has developed a revolutionary new system to neutralize missile & RPG attacks against tanks - It is extraordinary simple. but extremely effective - this will change the defensive ability of the most valuable piece of field equipment in an army. At 200 grand a pop, it's expensive.


http://www.jerusalemonline.com/specials20.asp


Will Israel share this new lifesaving technology with the USA? Maybe Maybe not.

They won't share it to Obamagog the Jew Hater, but they are Soldiers and they will gladly share it with a Brother American Soldier.

It is just a shame a Clown like Obama will get credit for "Accepting the Gift" when clearly he cares nothing about Israel or United States Soldiers.

We have 58 States in the Union and Memorial Day is the Same Holiday as Veterans Day as far as Obamagog is concerned.

You wanted him, you got him, and "YES YOU CAN" keep him !!!!!

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RE: The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
Saying that he doesn't care about US soldiers is a bit of a stretch. What has he done to soldiers since he's been there? What did you say when our soldiers were sent there in the first place ill-equipped? Probably nothing because your boys were in power right?
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RE: The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
When the first American Soldier was murdered by a terrorist muslim on American soil, he said "he was saddened". 3 days after his death. When Tiller was murdered, the same day he said he was "outraged".
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RE: The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
(06-12-2009 08:13 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Saying that he doesn't care about US soldiers is a bit of a stretch. What has he done to soldiers since he's been there?

What did you say when our soldiers were sent there in the first place ill-equipped? Probably nothing because your boys were in power right?

OK Mr. Nomad ....

I was one pissed off Military Veteran that Bush, Congress, and the Joint Chiefs sent our soldiers into Combat with about the most crappy equipment in inventory - - we had not stock piled any modern Field Combat Systems in any number because we had not fought a war in "12 Years" and 12 years is like 100 Years in Technology Terms. You bet I was angry.

I had a Marine Friend who was on a Spec Ops Team for locating and destroying IED or other Enemy Emplacement Homemade/Improvised Explosive Devices. He and his Team were some of the First Deployments into Iraq so they were really ill-equipped.

He was Team Leader of this Special EOD Team that used GPS to track and home in on IED and other Explosive High Yield Devices. In essence he went out, found, and either disarmed or rigged an IED or Worse kind of explosive device to explode and be destroyed.

Pretty dangerous work.

Well I kept him loaded down with Canned Food, Baby Wipes, Cleaning Wipes, Real Toilet Paper, Snacks, Books, Lotions of all kinds like Skin Lotion and Bug Repellent and on and on. Even a Movie or Two when we had the room in the boxes. We kept his team loaded with new T-Shirts, Skivvies, Socks, and other new and clean clothes so their feet and skin would not become infected and rot off ..... you see I have been in the fuggin swamp with no Dry or Clean Clothes and it can get pretty nasty.

Since My Friends Teams MOS relied so much on GPS to get them to within a safe distance of these Killer IED Type Devices, the Military GPS Systems they were issued were for SH'T and would maybe get them within Yards of these devices and may even cause them to accidentally trigger them and they get killed or badly hurt. So even though their GPS would get them close, they still had to hunt the thing down by Eye-Balling for it and this was a huge NO NO since stumbling over it could cause it to trigger and either Kill or Maim my Friend and his Team.

He wrote me one day and told me what he needed in a GPS Unit .... within "1 WEEK" he had his Brand New GPS Unit that would get his Team within Inches of the Designated Location of these Killer Explosive Devices so they could work in relative safety to Destroy this crap. And we are talking unexploded Shells and Munitions of all Kinds, Types, and Sizes .... almost Suicide Work.

The GPS Unit I sent them even helped them get thru the Streets and Roads of Iraq and avoid the Danger Zones where Ambushes Frequently Occurred.

Even with all the stuff I sent him (my Wife and I sent him), one day the inevitable happened and he was badly injured when an IED prematurely exploded while his Team were rigging it for detonation. It was his ticket home to see his brand new Son that he had only seen in Photos up until then.

He is a HERO and I am proud to have been a part of helping him and His Team stay alive over there !!!!!!

So now Mr. Nomad, just what all did you do to help the War Effort other than Throw Shoes at the White House, *****, Whine, and Moan in front of the TV or just sat back and did nothing ????

I Supported an Entire Force Recon Marine EOD Team in IRAQ .....

And if you need confirmation, I am pretty sure I can get him to Email You and tell you all about it so you will know I am not Lying.

I don't play when it comes to a Brother In Uniform and I will give all I have to help them as much as I can .... have you done that Nomad ?????

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RE: The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
That's all I needed to know. But I have been a Coxswain in the US Coast Guard for the past 3 years. I admit that I've never been in a war zone but I haven't been at my couch blindly complaining. I was on a boat crew that stopped smugglers of drugs and people as well as weapons. Since I have had command of my own small boat I've helped everyone from drunken students, to a man that had a heart attack while fishing, to towing people from the middle of our seas that had engine failures. All under my then CiC George W. Bush. So I have also done my part.

I have also trained with Navy and Marine Corps Coxswain at the Joint School at Camp Lejune, NC. I know and respect them for what they do.
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RE: The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
(06-12-2009 12:13 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Israel has developed a revolutionary new system to neutralize missile & RPG attacks against tanks - It is extraordinary simple. but extremely effective - this will change the defensive ability of the most valuable piece of field equipment in an army. At 200 grand a pop, it's expensive.


http://www.jerusalemonline.com/specials20.asp


Will Israel share this new lifesaving technology with the USA? Maybe Maybe not.
They aren't worried about cost. The US is paying for them. If the US cuts money to Israel, there is plenty of money in the US and world in the Jewish community to keep things going.
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RE: The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
(06-12-2009 08:13 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Saying that he doesn't care about US soldiers is a bit of a stretch. What has he done to soldiers since he's been there? What did you say when our soldiers were sent there in the first place ill-equipped? Probably nothing because your boys were in power right?
Please forgive "Mr. Violence". He thinks that if you aren't FOR war you HATE the soldiers and the country.
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RE: The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
Chobham (composite ceramic) armor on M-1's is pretty much impregnable to RPG/HEAT warheads. The weak spot on a tank has always been the thin armor on top. The Javelin ATGM flies in vertically for that reason-- and it can take out Russian T-90 armor with the stolen Russian Chobham clone.

This system may work for INF such as the Bradley and Stryker that dont have Chobham. But even with this system (which looks like it could be overwhelmed from multiple launches from a given quadrant) you will still need reactive armor or the slat armor on your vehicle.
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RE: The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
It's 90% effective, so Israel knows it's vulnerabilities. There may be battlefield tactics that minimize that.
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RE: The Israeli "Windbreaker Defence System"
(06-12-2009 11:17 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  That's all I needed to know. But I have been a Coxswain in the US Coast Guard for the past 3 years. I admit that I've never been in a war zone but I haven't been at my couch blindly complaining. I was on a boat crew that stopped smugglers of drugs and people as well as weapons. Since I have had command of my own small boat I've helped everyone from drunken students, to a man that had a heart attack while fishing, to towing people from the middle of our seas that had engine failures. All under my then CiC George W. Bush. So I have also done my part.

I have also trained with Navy and Marine Corps Coxswain at the Joint School at Camp Lejune, NC. I know and respect them for what they do.

Then my Brother-in-Arms, you have gained my respect and a Snappy Hand Salute for your Military Service.

Thank you for keeping us safe and you stay safe your self .... your job is not an easy one either ... most people on the street have no Idea what you Coast Guard Guys do and just how dangerous it can be given the circumstances.

KUDOS to a Brother in Uniform !!!!!!! 04-rock 04-rock 04-rock

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(06-12-2009 01:58 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-12-2009 08:13 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Saying that he doesn't care about US soldiers is a bit of a stretch. What has he done to soldiers since he's been there? What did you say when our soldiers were sent there in the first place ill-equipped? Probably nothing because your boys were in power right?

Please forgive "Mr. Violence". He thinks that if you aren't FOR war you HATE the soldiers and the country.

Robert, why can't you just STFU and stay out of Individual Conversations that have a way of working them selves out without your bullsh't help or input.

And Robs, why don't you go join Nomad in the Coast Guard and see what Real Life is all about when people that HATE YOUR GUTS are pointing weapons at you from a very large Ship or Vessel that is helping the Terror Network bring harmful materials, devices, and Trained People into the United States and don't like being Stopped, Detained, Boarded, and Searched by the United States Coast Guard.

Hey Nomad ... can you put in a Good Word for Robert so he can get all his Testing Done and be Processed at Great Speed and Deployed as soon as possible ???

Go on Robs, be a part of the Military that not only has a huge roll in National Defense, they also have Law Enforcement Powers as well .... I believe once you have stood in Nomad's Boots, you may just grow up a bit.

I will be waiting to hear when your shipping out to a Coast Guard training facility date is ...... and I hope Nomad is one of your Trainers.

Now, go butt in to someone else's conversation where you know absolutely nothing about the substance of what the talk is about.

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In the USCG it's not the basic training that is hard...it's trying to strike a rate. Before you see any action, you're gonna have to try to EARN a job by going through people like me who already have a rate. So you should want to know his date of his first Coast Guard station, where for the first three months (while you wait to get on the school waiting list) he will have to do "Sea B****" duties.

There he will do nothing but sweep, swab, shine, polish, clean, sand, and paint everything around the station including: the head, the boats, and all of the NCOs/Officer's boots. Oh yeah and then there's galley duty. Those three months alone have made more people want to quit than pulling nighttime underway, including me (I spent that time at Kodiak air station in January-March).

Once he gets on a school list he'll pull real time while he waits. That's when somebody like me will put him through on-the-job training. He'll then see what it is like when the people that you'll protect with your life don't even respect you enough to quit drinking when you come around. He'll see what it's like to catch a drug runner with a small cache of assembled AK-47s that they probably would use on you if you don't board fast enough. That along with things that I can't say have a humbling affect and makes it a tough job and grants you with a new respect for the rest of the military.

But yeah, I'm not a lover of war but I do believe that our soldiers are doing a good thing. Even if they aren't, they are just following orders as I do everyday. When they come back we should treat them as heroes.
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Good....Now stop sending my stolen wages to them for their defense. They can take care of themselves.05-stirthepot
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(06-12-2009 06:22 PM)Tripster Wrote:  
(06-12-2009 01:58 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-12-2009 08:13 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Saying that he doesn't care about US soldiers is a bit of a stretch. What has he done to soldiers since he's been there? What did you say when our soldiers were sent there in the first place ill-equipped? Probably nothing because your boys were in power right?

Please forgive "Mr. Violence". He thinks that if you aren't FOR war you HATE the soldiers and the country.

Robert, why can't you just STFU and stay out of Individual Conversations that have a way of working them selves out without your bullsh't help or input.

And Robs, why don't you go join Nomad in the Coast Guard and see what Real Life is all about when people that HATE YOUR GUTS are pointing weapons at you from a very large Ship or Vessel that is helping the Terror Network bring harmful materials, devices, and Trained People into the United States and don't like being Stopped, Detained, Boarded, and Searched by the United States Coast Guard.

Hey Nomad ... can you put in a Good Word for Robert so he can get all his Testing Done and be Processed at Great Speed and Deployed as soon as possible ???

Go on Robs, be a part of the Military that not only has a huge roll in National Defense, they also have Law Enforcement Powers as well .... I believe once you have stood in Nomad's Boots, you may just grow up a bit.

I will be waiting to hear when your shipping out to a Coast Guard training facility date is ...... and I hope Nomad is one of your Trainers.

Now, go butt in to someone else's conversation where you know absolutely nothing about the substance of what the talk is about.

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