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Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
I want everyone to see all of the people associated with Iran-Contra that are now associated with Bush/Cheney Torture memos.
In 1992 George H. W. Bush pardoned six convicted administration officials, namely Elliott Abrams, Duane R. Clarridge, Alan Fiers, Clair George, Robert McFarlane, and Caspar Weinberger.
George W. Bush selected some individuals that served under Reagan for high-level posts in his presidential administration. They include:
* Elliott Abrams
* Otto Reich
* John Negroponte (associated with Bush torture as well as Iran-Contra)
* Admiral John Poindexter
Bill Clinton holds some responsibility to this as well. He should have prosecuted every last one of them. I hope Obama follows through with a Truth Commission, if not look for the EU to do something.
War crimes need to happen now.
Just remember Republicans we still hold the cards when it comes to Iraq (WMD's) and torture. You were in control from 2000-2006 and will be held accountable.
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-14-2009 06:35 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: I want everyone to see all of the people associated with Iran-Contra that are now associated with Bush/Cheney Torture memos.
What about Pelosi? Does she get a pass because some people are believing her lies?
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RockyMtnRamfan
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-14-2009 06:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:35 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: I want everyone to see all of the people associated with Iran-Contra that are now associated with Bush/Cheney Torture memos.
What about Pelosi? Does she get a pass because some people are believing her lies?
Just another Bush torture neocon. You would rather prosecute someone who was not in charge in 2002 (Pelosi), while letting the people in charge walk free (Bush/Cheney).
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-14-2009 06:53 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:35 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: I want everyone to see all of the people associated with Iran-Contra that are now associated with Bush/Cheney Torture memos.
What about Pelosi? Does she get a pass because some people are believing her lies?
Just another Bush torture neocon. You would rather prosecute someone who was not in charge in 2002 (Pelosi), while letting the people in charge walk free (Bush/Cheney).
and you would rather let someone who knew about it off the hook.
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-14-2009 06:35 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: I want everyone to see all of the people associated with Iran-Contra that are now associated with Bush/Cheney Torture memos.
In 1992 George H. W. Bush pardoned six convicted administration officials, namely Elliott Abrams, Duane R. Clarridge, Alan Fiers, Clair George, Robert McFarlane, and Caspar Weinberger.
George W. Bush selected some individuals that served under Reagan for high-level posts in his presidential administration. They include:
* Elliott Abrams
* Otto Reich
* John Negroponte (associated with Bush torture as well as Iran-Contra)
* Admiral John Poindexter
Bill Clinton holds some responsibility to this as well. He should have prosecuted every last one of them. I hope Obama follows through with a Truth Commission, if not look for the EU to do something.
War crimes need to happen now.
Just remember Republicans we still hold the cards when it comes to Iraq (WMD's) and torture. You were in control from 2000-2006 and will be held accountable.
This is just getting sadder and older by the second .....
Obamagog being able to use GW as an Excuse for everything is burning out fast for the Little-god, so people like SpottedFeverTick have to fall all the way back to 20 freggin years ago and BLAME GHW BUSH !!!!!!!
I have never seen this kind of desperation in all my life.
And to think if you were even born back then Tick, you were so young that you were still sucking tit for food. SO WTF do you know about it first hand ???
When are all you Angry Lib's going to realize that you HAVE WON the Lottery until at least 2010 and just enjoy your Couple of Years of Wrecking the Nation and causing a 2nd Civil War ???
As I have said before, "You guys are the Sorest Winners I have ever Witnessed" ....
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
I can't fathom a single reason to respond to this idiocy.
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05-14-2009 07:37 PM |
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
Eventually he's gonna call me a chickenhawk. When that happens, he will be no more on this site.
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-14-2009 11:00 PM)Rebel Wrote: Eventually he's gonna call me a chickenhawk. When that happens, he will be no more on this site.
Damn Chickenhawk
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-14-2009 06:59 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:53 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:35 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: I want everyone to see all of the people associated with Iran-Contra that are now associated with Bush/Cheney Torture memos.
What about Pelosi? Does she get a pass because some people are believing her lies?
Just another Bush torture neocon. You would rather prosecute someone who was not in charge in 2002 (Pelosi), while letting the people in charge walk free (Bush/Cheney).
and you would rather let someone who knew about it off the hook.
I would like to hear how you KNOW she lied.
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-14-2009 07:25 PM)Tripster Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:35 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: I want everyone to see all of the people associated with Iran-Contra that are now associated with Bush/Cheney Torture memos.
In 1992 George H. W. Bush pardoned six convicted administration officials, namely Elliott Abrams, Duane R. Clarridge, Alan Fiers, Clair George, Robert McFarlane, and Caspar Weinberger.
George W. Bush selected some individuals that served under Reagan for high-level posts in his presidential administration. They include:
* Elliott Abrams
* Otto Reich
* John Negroponte (associated with Bush torture as well as Iran-Contra)
* Admiral John Poindexter
Bill Clinton holds some responsibility to this as well. He should have prosecuted every last one of them. I hope Obama follows through with a Truth Commission, if not look for the EU to do something.
War crimes need to happen now.
Just remember Republicans we still hold the cards when it comes to Iraq (WMD's) and torture. You were in control from 2000-2006 and will be held accountable.
This is just getting sadder and older by the second .....
Obamagog being able to use GW as an Excuse for everything is burning out fast for the Little-god, so people like SpottedFeverTick have to fall all the way back to 20 freggin years ago and [b]BLAME GHW BUSH !!!!!!![/b]
I have never seen this kind of desperation in all my life.
And to think if you were even born back then Tick, you were so young that you were still sucking tit for food. SO WTF do you know about it first hand ???
When are all you Angry Lib's going to realize that you HAVE WON the Lottery until at least 2010 and just enjoy your Couple of Years of Wrecking the Nation and causing a 2nd Civil War ???
As I have said before, "You guys are the Sorest Winners I have ever Witnessed" ....
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Yet other people go even further, and reach in a similar manner with people like Ayers, etc.
If you don't like the guy, then hammer him on his policies, votes, etc. There's plenty of legitimate ammo there.
Better yet, hammer him and all of the crappy politicians we've been forced to endure over the past 20, 30, or 40 yrs+.
The newfound outrage seems hollow and contrived to me. Especially considering the context.
(This post was last modified: 05-15-2009 05:16 AM by dwr0109.)
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-15-2009 05:10 AM)dwr0109 Wrote: Better yet, hammer him and all of the crappy politicians we've been forced to endure over the past 20, 30, or 40 yrs+.
The newfound outrage seems hollow and contrived to me. Especially considering the context.
I don't get it. Newfound outrage? WTF DUDE?
"crappy politicians we've been forced to endure over the past 20, 30, or 40 yrs+."
Your first sentence sounds good, I've been mad as hell since '63.
What makes you think we (Conservatives) have newfound rage against Obama?
If you are really inferring is that it is because he is black. That sh!t ain't gonna fly here. It's not racial, besides he's half-white.
We (conservatories) just are outraged that this person did not get the same scrutiny others have. And a majority of Americans willingly went down this road. And were seemingly deceived so easily by the MSM.
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-15-2009 05:10 AM)dwr0109 Wrote: Yet other people go even further, and reach in a similar manner with people like Ayers, etc.
If you don't like the guy, then hammer him on his policies, votes, etc. There's plenty of legitimate ammo there.
Better yet, hammer him and all of the crappy politicians we've been forced to endure over the past 20, 30, or 40 yrs+.
The newfound outrage seems hollow and contrived to me. Especially considering the context.
Ayers is a "REAL LIVE Terrorist" who loves to flaunt that "I am guilty as hell and I am free, God Bless America" (and that is out of Ayers mouth).
Doesn't phase Obamagog one iota that this man will bomb anything and anybody to cause harm and destruction - - this is Hussein's FRIEND and confidant after all.
You can't mix apples and oranges and come out with prunes on complicated issues like this and any other verbal attempt to side-step the central issue is simply smoke-n-mirrors Liberal BS.
Peoples eyes are slowly opening to this gaggle of lying Socialist who are seekers of opportunity and when the common people finally get the slobber off them selves from drooling over this 'Being' and wake up seeing him for what he truly is, things will turn around very quickly.
I still love that old PT Barnum saying: Quote:"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time."
Obamagog, Pelosi, Reid, Lahey, Dodd, and that wretched ilk have just about worn out their "Bull Sh't for Free Card" and the truth is starting to shine down onto those poor fooled souls who believed in this "Krew of Khaos".
All Honeymoons end .....
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-14-2009 11:42 PM)cb4029 Wrote: (05-14-2009 11:00 PM)Rebel Wrote: Eventually he's gonna call me a chickenhawk. When that happens, he will be no more on this site.
Damn Chickenhawk
CB, don't lower yourself to the level of the "Spotted Tick"
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-15-2009 02:38 AM)RobertN Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:59 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:53 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:35 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: I want everyone to see all of the people associated with Iran-Contra that are now associated with Bush/Cheney Torture memos.
What about Pelosi? Does she get a pass because some people are believing her lies?
Just another Bush torture neocon. You would rather prosecute someone who was not in charge in 2002 (Pelosi), while letting the people in charge walk free (Bush/Cheney).
and you would rather let someone who knew about it off the hook.
I would like to hear how you KNOW she lied.
Read a newspaper. Even the Times will work. Or simply listen to the liar herself. If you would just get off Al Jizzara.
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-14-2009 06:53 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (05-14-2009 06:35 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote: I want everyone to see all of the people associated with Iran-Contra that are now associated with Bush/Cheney Torture memos.
What about Pelosi? Does she get a pass because some people are believing her lies?
Just another Bush torture neocon. You would rather prosecute someone who was not in charge in 2002 (Pelosi), while letting the people in charge walk free (Bush/Cheney).
Actually, what we want are the terrorists prosecuted. Why is that so hard to accept?
It is funny in a way to see how the Dems are manufacturing some political brouhaha in order to provide material for the mainstream enterta, er, news media. Otherwise they might start reporting on how every doctrine of the left is producing abject failure, and the country is headed toward ruin.
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-15-2009 05:58 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (05-15-2009 05:10 AM)dwr0109 Wrote: Better yet, hammer him and all of the crappy politicians we've been forced to endure over the past 20, 30, or 40 yrs+.
The newfound outrage seems hollow and contrived to me. Especially considering the context.
I don't get it. Newfound outrage? WTF DUDE?
"crappy politicians we've been forced to endure over the past 20, 30, or 40 yrs+."
Your first sentence sounds good, I've been mad as hell since '63.
What makes you think we (Conservatives) have newfound rage against Obama?
If you are really inferring is that it is because he is black. That sh!t ain't gonna fly here. It's not racial, besides he's half-white.
We (conservatories) just are outraged that this person did not get the same scrutiny others have. And a majority of Americans willingly went down this road. And were seemingly deceived so easily by the MSM.
Give me a freaking break. You really think I believe he is targeted b/c he is black. I guess I don't post here enough, to provide a background for my beliefs.
Hell yeah, Obama had the media eating out of his hand. Kind of like Bush after Sept. 11. Both situations disgusted me. Just like the fact that Paris Hilton, and Kim Kardashian get the ridiculous press that they do...for what? Yes their press is usually far less favorable, but it is yet another example of the joke that is the current U.S. media.
But you do have the audacity to demean someone for bringing up Bush I officials (including those who served in, and contributed to W's administration), because it was "so long ago," yet you have no problem with bringing up Bill Ayers? To, me that is textbook hypocrisy.
Yes, I see it as "newfound" outrage, because that outrage did not exist until Obama became President.
(This post was last modified: 05-17-2009 08:08 AM by dwr0109.)
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-17-2009 05:51 AM)dwr0109 Wrote: (05-15-2009 05:58 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (05-15-2009 05:10 AM)dwr0109 Wrote: Better yet, hammer him and all of the crappy politicians we've been forced to endure over the past 20, 30, or 40 yrs+.
The newfound outrage seems hollow and contrived to me. Especially considering the context.
I don't get it. Newfound outrage? WTF DUDE?
"crappy politicians we've been forced to endure over the past 20, 30, or 40 yrs+."
Your first sentence sounds good, I've been mad as hell since '63.
What makes you think we (Conservatives) have newfound rage against Obama?
If you are really inferring is that it is because he is black. That sh!t ain't gonna fly here. It's not racial, besides he's half-white.
We (conservatories) just are outraged that this person did not get the same scrutiny others have. And a majority of Americans willingly went down this road. And were seemingly deceived so easily by the MSM.
Give me a freaking break. You really think I believe he is targeted b/c he is black. I guess I don't post here enough, to provide a background for my beliefs.
Hell yeah, Obama had the media eating out of his hand. Kind of like Bush after Sept. 11. Both situations disgusted me. Just like the fact that Paris Hilton, and Kim Kardashian get the ridiculous press that they do...for what? Yes their press is usually far less favorable, but it is yet another example of the joke that is the current U.S. media.
But you do have the audacity to demean someone for bringing up Bush I officials (including those who served in, and contributed to W's administration), because it was "so long ago," yet you have no problem with bringing up Bill Ayers? To, me that is textbook hypocrisy.
Yes, I see it as "newfound" outrage, because that outrage did not exist until Obama became President.
You'll get no break from me. Considering your language makes no sense. Ideas seem conflicted. Therefore I can call a spade a spade. You, are delusional.
(This post was last modified: 05-17-2009 11:46 AM by SumOfAllFears.)
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You should take a swim in Cache le Poudre' and let it carry you away.
Ready......... one, two three .... JUMP ! ! !
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
I still think that Pelosi is lying and she needs to be dealt with in the same way as all of the others if they are going to be dealt with. This is the reason that Obama never wanted the "truth commission" or further action taken. I bet he just thought that he could release his memos and it would be all over and everyone would be happy. A can of worms has been opened and they have escaped. It's harder get those worms back in the can than everyone thought.
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RE: Bush Torture = Iran-Contra
(05-15-2009 06:58 AM)WMD Owl Wrote: (05-14-2009 11:42 PM)cb4029 Wrote: (05-14-2009 11:00 PM)Rebel Wrote: Eventually he's gonna call me a chickenhawk. When that happens, he will be no more on this site.
Damn Chickenhawk
CB, don't lower yourself to the level of the "Spotted Tick"
Yeah, we know Rebel isn't a "Chickenhawk" since he was actually in the military. He is just a simple violent person who obviously took some shrapnel to the head.
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