(04-17-2009 09:11 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  They slashed Pearl's throat on camera, and they call us war criminals. After that, as far as I'm concerned, our military and NSA, can do WHATEVER needs doing. Death to Islamofascists.

ObamaMessiahSOB weakens our military.

what it will do is lead to more Renditions, or just killing them on the battlefield, probably before hand real torture would be used to get whatever is possible in a short time out and then kill them.

which weakens our intelligence, many plots have been thwarted thanks to pouring water on the KSM's head and making him think he was drowning, when he wasn't and never had any chance of drowning. Thats the Lives and Liberty of innoncent americans saved.

someone needs to find an old Army field manual from WW2

(04-17-2009 09:11 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  They slashed Pearl's throat on camera, and they call us war criminals.

Technically, they've only had to stand back and let the political left call ourselves war criminals.

(04-17-2009 09:15 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-16-2009 10:21 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-16-2009 09:37 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  WE are supposed to be setting the example for the rest of the world.

We are? Why? How did we get that job? When?

My question exactly.

Is there someone else you'd recommend?

Because the list of sane, politically stable democracies that have to conjones to stand up to tin-pot dictators, banana republics is quite short.

It's either:

**The US and a couple allies
**Someone we don't like
**Or no one.

I'm not ready to leave the world to it's dithers because frankly that leaves me a little less secure......

btw, the idea we do not have the 'moral highground' against this people is one of the most absurd charges.

DVD to get: "Burried in the Sand"

you can download clips here, with full warning you will have trouble sleeping after seeing it

http://www.aei.org/events/eventID.844,fi...detail.asp

here is a mild example of Torture under Saddam hussein





breaking all the bones in your feet, then forcing you to run on these brocken bones. beating your Kidneys till the burst....cutting your Toungue out...chopping hands and feat off....


and you libs claim pouring water over KSM's head, in limited cases, is the same and thus we lose the 'moral highground'. Doing the same things we do in SERE training for the military.


if you care about having a true "Moral Highground" you start carrying about the Human Rights of the most innoncent among us, instead of supporting cutting the most innoncent humans among us into a million pieces.

(04-17-2009 02:05 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-17-2009 09:11 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  They slashed Pearl's throat on camera, and they call us war criminals.

Technically, they've only had to stand back and let the political left call ourselves war criminals.

ISN'T THAT JUST PEACHY!!!!! POLITICAL LEFT = TRAITORS

(04-17-2009 02:27 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-17-2009 02:05 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-17-2009 09:11 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  They slashed Pearl's throat on camera, and they call us war criminals.

Technically, they've only had to stand back and let the political left call ourselves war criminals.

ISN'T THAT JUST PEACHY!!!!! POLITICAL LEFT = TRAITORS

it'll never fly, but many are pointing out that by releasing these tactics is itself an Act of Treason.

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Screw all this non-fcking-sense ....

Once you have seen this kind of CRAP FOR REAL, you will never go back, you CAN NEVER GO BACK ... you are burnt for the rest of your life and damn any of you that sit as an Arm Chair Quarterback in Judgment on those who have been there and done that while you got a PASS.

Dig in the blood of other humans and hear their screams and sufferings and by the God who creates and destroys you are wrong beyond any mathematical ability to quantify.

Either go out and do the Nasty and Get Your Hands Dirty, or just please STOP ACCUSING and DEFAMING those who have ...

Some of you people are worse than those bastards like William Ayers in the 1960's and you sit so Pious over the rest of us like White Doves crying Tears of Peace over a People who WANT NO FCK'ing PEACE but to SAW OFF YOUR HEAD.

Once you have put your hand inside a human body that is still warm but is destroyed by another human being, then you will come away washed in a truth that STAINS FOREVER ....

Who are you wastes of time and space to judge me on what I have had to see and do ????

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Tripster - who are you talking about?

(04-17-2009 04:57 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Tripster - who are you talking about?

AHHH .... I am just feeling pretty bent over the White House having Convicted an entire Segment of the United States without benefit of Representation, Trial, or Fair Judgment and I just can't get it out of my mind.

I can not believe what is coming out of my Government on this or any other of it.

It is as if I have been woke from a nightmare that is still going and won't turn off .... I am not living in America any longer and it just seems to be getting worse by the day and people do not seem to care.

Because I am a Conservative United States Veteran, I am now a "Terrorist" and there is NO ONE in this Nation who would fight harder for her than me ,, YET ... my President has seen fit to label me an Extremist Terrorist while Sucking on the Ring of the Saudi King ????

Something is really really wrong I45 .... and even an idiot like Robert has to see it, but won't admit it because of embarrassing blind loyalty to what is becoming a Tyrant.

The White House is tossing down the Gauntlet, not the People who are being accused of things and called Terrorist in their very own Country.

And the "Bastard" that is calling me that, has a Best Friend who actually Blew Real Live Humans Up as a War Protester .... what a fck'ing hypocrite of epic magnitude.

I am just sick of it is all and am venting to those who Wear the Shoes ....

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