http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090415/ap_o..._next_step

The most obvious sign that he intends to run, not mentioned in the article, is his recent announcement of his conversion to Catholicism. Everyone knows a candidate must claim to be Christian to get elected in this country. How fortuitous for Newt to have found his true faith during the term prior to his potential POTUS bid.

I've always thoght Newt was positioning himslef for the nomination if the right circumstances happened. Well, they clearly have happened. Newt's maessage, and new image, will resonate with America. He was resposible for the Reuplicans taking Congress under Clinton and he'll do even more under Obama.

He may call himself a "Catholic" but the Roman Catholic Church isn't going to give membership to a twice divorced man even if his marriages were performed outside the Catholic Church.

(04-14-2009 11:10 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  He may call himself a "Catholic" but the Roman Catholic Church isn't going to give membership to a twice divorced man even if his marriages were performed outside the Catholic Church.

Yeah, just like they don't keep Priest that Screw Little Boys in the Rump ....

And anyway, Obama is going to destroy what ever is left of the Republic of the United States so there won't be much around for Newt to worry over as President.

Hell by 2012 we will all be in Concentration Camps labeled as "Right Wing Extremist Terrorist Militia Types" .... and Obama will just get the 500 Members of the All Liberal/Democrat Congress to "Install Him as POTUS For Life".

You see all 60 States (that's how many Obama said there are) will be under The New United Front Order and there will no longer be any State Borders, Lines, or Boundaries - - all 60 States will be one large Socialist State ruled by the hand of the Little-god and his Crew - - they may even get their Rhymes Together and take "Da Howze" on "Da Road" to all 60 States.

We 'Heart' You Barry Hussein !!!!!!!!!

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(04-14-2009 11:10 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  He may call himself a "Catholic" but the Roman Catholic Church isn't going to give membership to a twice divorced man even if his marriages were performed outside the Catholic Church.

Really? And abortion-supporting Kennedy? Abortion-supporting Kerry? Abortion-supporting Pelosi? Oh, wait, I forgot. You have no point.

(04-15-2009 07:27 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(04-14-2009 11:10 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  He may call himself a "Catholic" but the Roman Catholic Church isn't going to give membership to a twice divorced man even if his marriages were performed outside the Catholic Church.

Really? And abortion-supporting Kennedy? Abortion-supporting Kerry? Abortion-supporting Pelosi? Oh, wait, I forgot. You have no point.

Really, really good reply

I wonder if he thinks this would help him with NOrthern States, and he doesn't have to worry about southern states...converting to catholocism.

interesting in alot of ways, given his past views on source of law.

I'd feel better about it if he was just joining the catholics closest cousin, Episcopalian. More so if it was REC branch.

(04-14-2009 09:42 PM)Zipfanatik Wrote:  How fortuitous for Newt to have found his true faith during the term prior to his potential POTUS bid.

(04-15-2009 09:15 AM)GGniner Wrote:  I'd feel better about it if he was just its closest cousin, Episcopalian. More so if it was REC branch.

Thank you for proving once again that you are 1) batshit insane, and 2) the problem with religion in public service. Christianity is what we should have in office, just as long as its your particular brand.

I trust Christianity a little more than Black Liberation Theology. It's your choice?

Ugh, is this the best the conservatives can muster. Is there not someone out there that practices morality and shows dedication to a committment?

infidlity is a common sin, all are capable of falling to it. doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong on policy due to it.

Funny how infidelity is now something the libs abhor. Yeah, no inconsistencies there.

(04-15-2009 12:29 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Funny how infidelity is now something the libs abhor. Yeah, no inconsistencies there.

Reb, I have a FANTASTIC IDEA to appease these Anti-Newter's (Newter - LOL)!!!!!!

We 'Conservatives' will all get together and Back that Old Sweet Queen Buwanee Fuwank for Pwesident.

You just can any more ... errr ... "fidel" than Madam Buwanee after all ....

He is a One Sausage Guy !!!!!!

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(04-15-2009 03:46 PM)Tripster Wrote:  

(04-15-2009 12:29 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Funny how infidelity is now something the libs abhor. Yeah, no inconsistencies there.

Reb, I have a FANTASTIC IDEA to appease these Anti-Newter's (Newter - LOL)!!!!!!

We 'Conservatives' will all get together and Back that Old Sweet Queen Buwanee Fuwank for Pwesident.

You just can any more ... errr ... "fidel" than Madam Buwanee after all ....

He is a One Sausage Guy !!!!!!

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Because I am not a fan of Newt, I am a Barney Frank fan?

I would prefer someone a little further to the right, like Pat Buchanan, but Newt isn't a bad second choice. Pat may have won the GOP nomination in 2000 and possibly POTUS if the timid Republicans hadn't let the drive-by media scare them into giving the nomination to "W". The problem from the Republican party is there are so few TRUE conservatives with national appeal.

(04-15-2009 12:18 PM)GGniner Wrote:  infidlity is a common sin, all are capable of falling to it. doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong on policy due to it.

I love when these God and Country types that get caught in these situations.

I'm sorry...I've been married for 24 years and have never considered cheating on my wife. If I did...I would be man enough to just come out and tell her that I did not love her anymore and end the relationship.

Cheating on ones wife shows a lack of both character and honesty.
I'd say judging by the normal GOP standards for candidates...Newt is not GOP material. Of course we all know that in the scummy political game,winning elections are the real concern...not principles.

(04-15-2009 08:07 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-15-2009 12:18 PM)GGniner Wrote:  infidlity is a common sin, all are capable of falling to it. doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong on policy due to it.

I love when these God and Country types that get caught in these situations.

I'm sorry...I've been married for 24 years and have never considered cheating on my wife. If I did...I would be man enough to just come out and tell her that I did not love her anymore and end the relationship.

Cheating on ones wife shows a lack of both character and honesty.
I'd say judging by the normal GOP standards for candidates...Newt is not GOP material. Of course we all know that in the scummy political game,winning elections are the real concern...not principles.

there are other sins, just as common as infidelity....say idol worship....that is also common for some to fall to

It does show a lack of character, being a violation of trust and all. My point is its common weakness of many.

The party lost direction when he stepped down as speaker. Newt was one of the best speakers ever. He balanced the budget when he was speaker. House of Reps has more to do with that than the Senate or the President. All spending bills begin in the house. Newt kept of tight ship as leader of the House. Look at the mess that Pelosi has been doing in 2 plus years. Hyde wasn't very good either. Newt was a great speaker. Newt has a sharp mind and would be a good debater vs Obama. Next has the experience and is a great ideas guy. Would make an excellent cabinet choice or VP perhaps with Romney as president who has a bit more executive experience and less personal baggage. Would be a heck of a comeback story.

Quote:He may call himself a "Catholic" but the Roman Catholic Church isn't going to give membership to a twice divorced man even if his marriages were performed outside the Catholic Church.

Nonsense, my Grandmother(RIP) was married 4 times before converting to Catholicism in the mid 1950s. She had all of her previous marriages annulled.

Quote:Yeah, just like they don't keep Priest that Screw Little Boys in the Rump ....

Hopefully, most of those guys are in jail where they belong. While only 2-3% of the priests were involved in this type of deplorable behavior, it was a definite blackeye to the Church. Sadly, these incidents unfairly stereotyped a lot of good men.

Quote:Really? And abortion-supporting Kennedy? Abortion-supporting Kerry? Abortion-supporting Pelosi?

Don't get me started on the CINOs(Catholic In Name Only). Those people really should have the common decency and leave the Church. But being the good Lefties that they are, they just have to stick around and try to push their belief system on the rest of us whether we like it or not. It's actually a good study on the present Political Left in that they really do not tolerate anyone that has opposing views and must at all costs get you to accept their beliefs.

Quote:I wonder if he thinks this would help him with NOrthern States, and he doesn't have to worry about southern states...converting to catholocism.

interesting in alot of ways, given his past views on source of law.

I'd feel better about it if he was just joining the catholics closest cousin, Episcopalian. More so if it was REC branch.

Actually, the closest cousin to Catholicism is Orthodoxy. I reallly don't think that the bigotry and bias in the South against Catholicism exists like it was during the 1920s and 1960s.. I'd like to think that the USA has progressed beyond that. Then again, there are some folks out there quoting Oliver Cromwell. :-) Being that I am of Irish Catholic ancestry, Oliver Cromwell is a complete bastard. I hope that he's rotting in Hell for what he did to the Irish people.

As for Newt, he's had his day in the Sun. Hopefully, someone else will step up to the plate. :-)

(04-16-2009 12:53 AM)RC Horn Wrote:  Then again, there are some folks out there quoting Oliver Cromwell. :-) Being that I am of Irish Catholic ancestry, Oliver Cromwell is a complete bastard. I hope that he's rotting in Hell for what he did to the Irish people.

ha, thats right....as he would wish 'paint him warts and all'

I would doubt he's in hell, but then I'm in no position to assert one way or the other. There are two sides to the Irish mess, many historians would say he was acting in retaliation to Irish massacres(i.e. bringing justice, though it was ugly but par for the course in 17th century world).

since we are talking religion, at that point in history the Catholic church was very corrupt, especially in Spain, and Cromwells side had been advocating strongly Liberty of Conscience and Freedom of Religion(i.e. no alliegance to the Pope, and a true Personal relationship with God).

the Catholics in Great Britain had outlawed and banished Jews for example, Cromwell got rid of that and brougth them back with freedom to practice Judaism. Sigmund Freud named his kid "Oliver" thanks to this.

anti-catholic Penal laws existed, but rarely enforced at the time also. They were similar to say the Patriot Act today, guarding against a Fifth Columm attack and establishment of a Catholic theocracy.

its an interesting period of history, the Westiminster Confession of Faith came out of this period, which is still used today by Reformed Protestants and I beleive reformed catholicism.

the larger issue isn't the denomination as much as the brand of Theology preached.