(04-15-2009 12:58 PM)Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:  For more examples of Finnish bas@ssery just check out the Winter War Take a look at those stats. Don't mess with the Finnish.

I've had my eye on a Sako 85 in any number of calibers for what feels like a decade.

(04-15-2009 09:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  West if your going to edit the "Thet" you might as well of changed the "smater" too.......................

If we're going to fall this far, you may as well edit "as well of" to "as well have"... plus a coma after West, and "you're" not your


C'mon guys... back on topic

(04-13-2009 09:29 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(04-13-2009 09:18 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  Obama showed leadership in authorizing an action that could have backfired without resorting to grandstanding and idiot sloganeering like the last administration.

Who can forget " I want him dead or alive" then it becomes "I'm not that concerned about him and don't know where he is", "if you're not with us your against us". All the damned blowviating and sabre rattling with no results and Bin Laden still at large.

Now that the military has taken decisive action, the pirates now know that at least their next attempt at commandeering a US vessel will be at their peril, no ransom paid here!

FK YOU! The last administration DID what needed to be done. Obama did nothing but tell the CPT to do what he does best.

Don't bring your Bush hatred here, you stupid ****. Let me know when Obama does something hard like do what NEEDS to be done.....like start attacking the GDamn ports of these douchebags.

F'n leftists, can't live with'em, can't kill'em......yet.

First of all, no thanks I'm straight.

You sound more like Timothy McVeigh every day. Can't argue with the facts can you. All shrub could do is huff and puff, he never finished anything he started, much like your other hero rash lambough who's been divorced 3 times and dropped out of college.

BTW what did shrub do when these pirates were attacking merchant ships in the Indian Ocean; not a damn thing. But don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion.

(04-13-2009 09:58 PM)Tripster Wrote:  

(04-13-2009 09:18 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  Obama showed leadership in authorizing an action that could have backfired without resorting to grandstanding and idiot sloganeering like the last administration.

Who can forget " I want him dead or alive" then it becomes "I'm not that concerned about him and don't know where he is", "if you're not with us your against us". All the damned blowviating and sabre rattling with no results and Bin Laden still at large.

Now that the military has taken decisive action, the pirates now know that at least their next attempt at commandeering a US vessel will be at their peril, no ransom paid here!

You have the Total Wrong Idea about the Special Forces or Spec Op's of the United States Military.

Every one of them I have ever had the Utmost Pleasure to serve with have been the most Restrained, Professional, and Gentlemanly Soldiers you could imagine.

These guys have Nothing To Prove by being "Grand Standers" and they merely and humbly "Do Their Jobs" and get almost ZERO Thanks for it.

If you want to see Grand Standing, look for the Cheeriest FNG and this is the Clown that usually John Waynes it up until he gets some OJT under his belt or his ass whipped for acting a fool.

I have never worked with Green Beret or Ranger Units, Groups, or Teams that were not the most Honed and Disciplined Troops I have ever seen and it was an honor to be associated with them.

A 'Held Salute' to these "Real Fighting Men" .....

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I'm not referring to the Special Ops or soldiers; the comparison is between the intelligent and adult way that Obama handled this situation compared to the foolish, grandstanding ass clowing that was prevalent during the previous administration.

(04-14-2009 11:54 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-13-2009 09:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I'm on the side of giving Obama props for his handling of this. I don't like much that he has done, but fairness says give him props for this.

One can give Obama props without resorting to pointless and ignorant comparisons. Bin Laden is not some poorly financed petty criminal in the open in a small boat in the middle of the ocean. He's hiding in a region so fierce that the Afghans beat back the entirety of the Russian army from horseback... and the Russians had much more firepower at their disposal in the region and didn't care what the world thought of them.

The Bin Laden family and Bush family are also "thick as thieves". Small wonder shrub let the Bin Laden family leave the US while 9/11 took place without interrogating them. Hard to believe that none of them had any knowledge or influence over their family member.

(04-16-2009 09:39 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

http://www.strategypage.com/humor/articl...523308.asp

Sweet! A Barrett .50 Cal. I gotta get me one of those.

(04-14-2009 10:13 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-14-2009 09:55 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(04-14-2009 09:39 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  I for one, don't think Obama did anything special. All props go to the snipers, and crews of all ships involved.

MSNBC is reporting that Obama was one of the snipers and tagged one of the pirates .2 nanoseconds before the other two SEALs.

They corrected themselves. Obama killed all three........with one shot.

You may be right.

Obama couldn't make it past f'n reception, much less boot camp or BUD/S.

If I didn't want to spend a fortune, say $500 or less, what is a good assault rifle or riot gun(pump action) to get?

(04-16-2009 12:28 AM)onlinepole Wrote:  

(04-14-2009 11:54 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-13-2009 09:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I'm on the side of giving Obama props for his handling of this. I don't like much that he has done, but fairness says give him props for this.

One can give Obama props without resorting to pointless and ignorant comparisons. Bin Laden is not some poorly financed petty criminal in the open in a small boat in the middle of the ocean. He's hiding in a region so fierce that the Afghans beat back the entirety of the Russian army from horseback... and the Russians had much more firepower at their disposal in the region and didn't care what the world thought of them.

The Bin Laden family and Bush family are also "thick as thieves". Small wonder shrub let the Bin Laden family leave the US while 9/11 took place without interrogating them. Hard to believe that none of them had any knowledge or influence over their family member.

Check your meds...

I don't remember the exact number... but iirc, Bin Laden is one of something like 50 children from a large number of "wives", and has more than 2 dozen children himself from a variety of "wives"... so while you may find it hard to believe.,.. that may mean that you are using your own family experience... which I suspect has significantly fewer wives and siblings. I've got first cousins from a small family that I rarely see... much less have any influence over... and I bet you do too... and this guy has been living "on the lam" for decades.

If you honestly believe what you have printed here... then you're ignorant. And I don't mean that to be insulting, thogh I know it will be taken that way. I use the word ignorant because it means lacking knowledge, rather than being incapable of understanding. Clearly you understand something... what you've read by equally ignorant, or perhaps politically motivated people uninterested in truth... but that doesn't mean that logic, facts or evidence support your conclusion in any way.

(04-16-2009 09:56 AM)GGniner Wrote:  If I didn't want to spend a fortune, say $500 or less, what is a good assault rifle or riot gun(pump action) to get?

Don't know if you're eligible or not, but:

http://www.thecmp.org/

The M-1 Carbine (.30 Cal), is an great, compact rifle. The Garand, while I own one, isn't one of my favorites due to how it's loaded.

BTW, these are about a grand off than a place like GunsAmerica.

(04-16-2009 09:56 AM)GGniner Wrote:  If I didn't want to spend a fortune, say $500 or less, what is a good assault rifle or riot gun(pump action) to get?

I am quite partial the the Benelli line of firearms. Go with their entry level pump action Nova model

http://www.gundirectory.com/more.asp?gid...un=Shotgun

For semi auto, me loves me a little Ruger Mini-30 or a Ruger Mini-14, but they can be costly.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...tml?cat=14

Both are the equivelent of a Honda Accord / Toyota Camry of firearms. Easy to use, common and everyone can talk about them. I have a couple rather esoteric firearms that I swear I am the only person who knows anything about them - to continue the car anology, it would be like having all your neighbors own an Accord, and you show up in a Lotus Exige.... your car looks cool and you get ooohs and ahhhs, but nobody knows too much about them.

Stay mainstream for now......

the Beneli looks nice, could do some damage and is cheaper than the good assault rifles. will look into that one.

(04-16-2009 11:23 AM)GGniner Wrote:  the Beneli looks nice, could do some damage and is cheaper than the good assault rifles. will look into that one.

You cant go wrong with a 12 gauge Mossberg 500 pump, 18 1/2 inch barrel.

Even an AK47 is $750-$1000

(04-16-2009 12:44 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Even an AK47 is $750-$1000

I have seen them at a used at gun show for $375

(04-16-2009 02:05 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(04-16-2009 12:44 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Even an AK47 is $750-$1000

I have seen them at a used at gun show for $375

I can get them on the street for $200.

(04-16-2009 02:08 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(04-16-2009 02:05 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(04-16-2009 12:44 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Even an AK47 is $750-$1000

I have seen them at a used at gun show for $375

I can get them on the street for $200.

Yeah, and registration will do a lot to curb those sales, won't it?

(04-16-2009 11:40 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(04-16-2009 11:23 AM)GGniner Wrote:  the Beneli looks nice, could do some damage and is cheaper than the good assault rifles. will look into that one.

You cant go wrong with a 12 gauge Mossberg 500 pump, 18 1/2 inch barrel.

You can get a Saiga for about 500 bucks:

http://www.saiga-12.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12