His delivery is odd but he makes some pretty solid points. I particularly like the point he made about people wanting to make more money but not having the skills to justify it. If you want to make more then learn a legal skill that will pay you more.
(04-01-2009 11:29 PM)STLouis Blazer Wrote: His delivery is odd but he makes some pretty solid points. I particularly like the point he made about people wanting to make more money but not having the skills to justify it. If you want to make more then learn a legal skill that will pay you more.
I don't get the whole "you have to have a college education in order to make a decent living" idea. It sounds "elitist". I always thought you guys on the right detested "elitists"?
(04-01-2009 11:29 PM)STLouis Blazer Wrote: His delivery is odd but he makes some pretty solid points. I particularly like the point he made about people wanting to make more money but not having the skills to justify it. If you want to make more then learn a legal skill that will pay you more.
I don't get the whole "you have to have a college education in order to make a decent living" idea. It sounds "elitist". I always thought you guys on the right detested "elitists"?
Where did anyone say "college education," Robert? Where? Even your logical fallacies suck in their delivery.
(04-02-2009 07:28 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote: A good plumber, electrician, etc. can make as much or more than a college educated person.
Absolutely. There was an article in Woman's Day(?) c. 1995, that pointed to auto body repairmen making more than people w/ a PhD in English. It discussed that college had become a "middle class entitlement" but the ROI wasn't always very good.
An excellent article, whose sentiment has been repeated occasionally, but not nearly enough. The industry of higher education has been active in discouraging people from knowing those facts, often with deceit. Furthermore, they've stacked their feeder organizations with their own operatives.
(04-01-2009 11:29 PM)STLouis Blazer Wrote: His delivery is odd but he makes some pretty solid points. I particularly like the point he made about people wanting to make more money but not having the skills to justify it. If you want to make more then learn a legal skill that will pay you more.
I don't get the whole "you have to have a college education in order to make a decent living" idea. It sounds "elitist". I always thought you guys on the right detested "elitists"?
Ummm...the "you have to have a college education" is an idea from the far left (and specifically Obama), not the right.
The point here is to learn some marketable skill.
Being a plumber is a more marketable skill than having a sociology degree.
And should be.
I have often thought that the world would be a far better place if possession of a sociology degree were a capital offense.
(04-02-2009 07:28 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote: A good plumber, electrician, etc. can make as much or more than a college educated person.
Absolutely. There was an article in Woman's Day(?) c. 1995, that pointed to auto body repairmen making more than people w/ a PhD in English. It discussed that college had become a "middle class entitlement" but the ROI wasn't always very good.
An excellent article, whose sentiment has been repeated occasionally, but not nearly enough. The industry of higher education has been active in discouraging people from knowing those facts, often with deceit. Furthermore, they've stacked their feeder organizations with their own operatives.
Big Education is probably the next bubble to burst, and one the Dems will most definitely bailout. We are definitely lied to and mislead by Educators and the culture in general from early on. There is a place for it, just not always for everyone.
Hell, to be a lawyer you have to spend over 100k for a few years to go to Law school, that puts you in a big hole coming out and most of the jobs your looking at are in the 50k/year range, though if you do well you can move up to 6 figures down the road.
if you want to make money, and don't have a passion for some sort of job, learn how to Trade or start some sort of business. Entreprenuership is much needed.
(04-02-2009 08:23 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The point here is to learn some marketable skill.
Being a plumber is a more marketable skill than having a sociology degree.
And should be.
in fairness to Sociologist, they perform a similar service as plumbers in the way of pumping alot of bull$hit onto the public.
(04-01-2009 11:29 PM)STLouis Blazer Wrote: His delivery is odd but he makes some pretty solid points. I particularly like the point he made about people wanting to make more money but not having the skills to justify it. If you want to make more then learn a legal skill that will pay you more.
I don't get the whole "you have to have a college education in order to make a decent living" idea. It sounds "elitist". I always thought you guys on the right detested "elitists"?
Ummm...the "you have to have a college education" is an idea from the far left (and specifically Obama), not the right.
The point here is to learn some marketable skill.
Being a plumber is a more marketable skill than having a sociology degree.
And should be.
I have often thought that the world would be a far better place if possession of a sociology degree were a capital offense.
Quote:school, that puts you in a big hole coming out and most of the jobs your looking at are in the 50k/year range, though if you do well you can move up to 6 figures down the road.
Um, no. That's not always the case.
The law school students where I went to b-school were getting $145-160K salaries out of school.
(04-02-2009 08:23 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The point here is to learn some marketable skill.
Being a plumber is a more marketable skill than having a sociology degree.
And should be.
in fairness to Sociologist, they perform a similar service as plumbers in the way of pumping alot of bull$hit onto the public.
Except plumbers generally help get rid of it, not cause it.
(04-01-2009 11:29 PM)STLouis Blazer Wrote: His delivery is odd but he makes some pretty solid points. I particularly like the point he made about people wanting to make more money but not having the skills to justify it. If you want to make more then learn a legal skill that will pay you more.
I don't get the whole "you have to have a college education in order to make a decent living" idea. It sounds "elitist". I always thought you guys on the right detested "elitists"?
Where did anyone say "college education," Robert? Where?
(04-02-2009 07:28 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote: A good plumber, electrician, etc. can make as much or more than a college educated person.
I agree.
The company I work for has been hit hard over the last 12 months due to the housing bubble burst. Being in the plywood industry...its understandable. We have actually worked about every other week since last May and I have had to use my carpentry and general handyman skills to supplement my income. I put up a few fliers at some local church memo boards advertising "handyman for hire". I got 3 calls within 2 days for small jobs. When they ask me...How much do you charge? I tell them to pay me what they think it is worth. Believe it or not...I make more working 3 to 4 days doing this than I do on my regular job.
Of course I only take cash!
