Quote:The Prez has flown to England and there’s only one thing to do while he’s gone: Let’s get our country back. Okay, it’s not going to be easy, there are a lot of hurdles. I’m pretty sure I can take Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, and that puffball press secretary Gibbs. Multiple adversary bash-a-thon!!! Hai-Yah!!

Barney Frank I ain’t touchin’… I’m not a homophobe; I simply suffer from an irrational childhood fear of Elmer Fudd.

And Nancy Pelosi? I’m sending my friend Andrew Breitbart in to cross-check her hard into the glass. (I know he’s been dyin’ to get the go-ahead.) I am certain that if I confronted her, she would hit me with that death ray from those Neutronium eyeballs of hers…the same ones that hypnotize the Washington press corps into not busting up every time she opens her mouth.

But seriously, folks. I don’t know why anyone’s surprised. Obama for two years told us what he’s all about. Made it clear as day. And everyone just sort of…looked the other way. ”Oh, he’s not a socialist! He’s just saying those things to keep the far left loonies happy. You watch, he’ll govern from the center.”

Oh really? Well, it’s been only two months and let’s take a look at what he’s done. (Everybody follow along, and please feel free to add anything I’m missing.)

Mr. Obama took Mr. Bush’s bad idea of hundred-billion dollar bailouts and ran with it - on steroids. When Bush’s bailout did nothing to revive the ailing economy, did our new president say, “Wait, that doesn’t work - let’s try something else.”

Uh…no. Instead he figured that because having taxpayers borrow hundreds of billions of dollars from Communist China and handing it over to banks, insurance companies and auto giants to ‘stimulate’ economic activity didn’t do any of that…why he should just go ahead and quadruple the amount and try again! That outta do it!

Then, more than half of his cabinet appointees turn out to be either tax cheats or plagued with scandal. (The same people who are hell-bent to raise our taxes and ‘keep us honest’.)
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I say we FINALLY put the Guard on the borders and don't let the commie bastard back in.

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PS Edit - Sorry if this just looks like a long Rant - - it is not - - it is a great little Bed Time Story that will entertain and warm your far ... errrr ... your Hearts:

The night was dark, the sky was blue, 'Round the corner the sh .... err (wrong Bed Time Story)

Here's the correct version:=> If WE take America back, Obambi will call an international crisis and Commandeer England and Annex it into a Supporting Military Dictatorship .... and within '3' Days, will have all of the EU wrapped up in a ball, sucking his toes to join in and Conquer the Constitutional American Zealots.

The "Scots" will be too drunk to fight and Obambi will simply make Scotland a POW Camp (starting with the Drunk Scots).

The IRA will retake all of Ireland and Refuse to Surrender .... in his haste, Rear-End English-like Vice Admiral/PM'ster Obambi will leave the IRA alone (to his best interest) and the IRA will join up with the French Foreign Legion later on in the month. (don't worry, you'll see)

By now (3 Days), Rear-End English-like Vice Admiral/PM'ster Obambi and Military are steaming 40,000 Naval Vessels this way with long range aircraft patrolling the "Zone" until the Troops arrive on the ground. (Obambi, since he Loathes the Military, is now very torn and as they sail this way, he tries to get Parliament to dismantle the Military and Demote him to just a "Rear-End" (they say is already an Ass and it would be an Oxymoron to pass law on this - - Obambi is really "Confused" now and so, they "Refuse") Obambi's fist aches from loneliness).

France finally loves us again since we elected "Mr. Kenyan Uber-Man-Flesh 2008/2009" and France will be leading the charge to the "Battle of America" (which is perfect since they will surrender to the other English Allied Forces while enroute to here).

The French Surrender will confuse everyone else as much Obambi is confused and since he has no one to "Fist" to relieve the tension, this will cause the Entire Obamic Armata to make a freakish turn that will send them off the Coast of Russia. And with Master/Commander Rear-End English-like Vice Admiral/PM'ster Obambi in charge, they simply won't be able to tell the difference in our coastline from the Russian coastline and hence, with Obambi in fine form at the Military Helm (as a Rear-End English-like Vice Admiral/PM'ster), will engage and attack the Russians by mistake.

This will set off Red China who will storm West to obliterate Occupied Russia and then China will eviscerate the Obambi Allied Forces who will be steaming in Circles much like Capt. Queeg running the U.S.S. Caine (times 40,000).

The "Allied Aircraft" all have crashed from lack of fuel since they still thought the Armata was Steaming Toward Them - - Allied Air Force is now totally destroyed. China does not have to watch the Friendly Skies for attacks. (Obambi is devastated - - heee heeee Heeeeeee HEEEEEEEE)

China will take over all of the EU in less than 30 Days so as to spare America and we can be able too pay them back all those Hundreds of Billions we owe them.

Kim Junk Mentally Ill will start organisming all over himself and will fire off all his missiles and nukes in such a "Mad Minute" rush, that they all will be reverse targeted back onto Korean Soil and will blast East and Southeast Asia simply off the map. (we will have finally Won Viet Nam care of KJI and the NK's)

This makes China really angry, but KJI has wiped out everyone along the Chinese/Korean Border so there is no one for the Chinese to punish ... they move on as Southeast Asia smolders.

China keeps moving and they overrun Africa in-toto and take so many of them out of the picture, until they will not have enough Africans Left To Kill Each Other any longer and as China passes thru the African Belt, they drop Obambi off in his Native-Born Home Country of Kenya and toss him in a Kenyan Prison for Life (China uncovers Obambi's "Kenyan Birth Certificate" while locking his ass up - case solved and the SCOTUS takes a week off).

The Somalis will then pull a sneak attack on Kenya and take Obambi hostage and demand $1.2 Trillion Dollars from the Chinese for his Safe Return (they go directly to the Chinese since even the dumb-ass Somalis know we don't want Obambi back if they paid us the $1.2 Tril) - - this really whips up the old Chinese piss-off and while Obambi is being held inside Somalia, the Chinese Nuke them until they are broken off of the African Continent and fall into the Sea. (many problems solved)

China will leave the Netherlands alone because they don't need anymore Stoners to deal with and Greenland and Iceland would never be touched for obvious reasons (like why bother).

The Chinese will go ahead and sink the Obmabi Fleet (no, not the Enema stuff, the English/EU Navy Flotilla) since they would not need any of the crappy equipment the EU has as an excuse for a Military.

The French Foreign Legion would hold on too North Africa and would invade France just to kick the Real French Peoples Asses and China would allow it.

The IRA joins forces with the Foreign Legion just for kicks.

Bin Laden will emerge, as China moves South over the Middle East, as the Muslim of Reason and will try to negotiate a Peace with China and China will have him Beheaded on International TV for laughs. (sorry Robert)

In 30 Days, when it is all over and China has received '0' Casualties from the Battle, she will Annex all she surveys into the New Unified Red China except for a few places they don't want and that includes the United States.

We would finally move the Nations Capitol to the Southern U.S. and will drop kick all of Washington D.C. to France where the French Foreign Legion and the IRA will bring back the Guillotine and have mass executions as a Sport (a lot like Arnies, "The Running Man" game).

The U.S. will finally get the U.S. back on track with all the Idiots Gone to France and we will soon pay China back what we owe her and become her #1 Ally in the World. (well actually, the ONLY Ally since China took over Earth)

Peace will reign and Mexico, Central, and South America (along with Canada, will be hosed by the Puerto Ricans after being trained by the Foreign Legion and the IRA and after they have a Successful Military Campaign against Cuber (Teddy Kennedy lingo there), the Caribbean Islands, and Greenland and Iceland ... the PR's will annihilate MS13 and the Illegals to the point of extinction and that will go along with us building a 25 Foot Tall Tungsten Steel and Concrete Fence along the Southern U.S. Border that is electrified at Electric Chair Voltages and Current. One touch and you go "Poof" (you know, like Bauwnee Fuwrank goes "POOF" all the time).

In 60 Days all will settle down and we will get some values back into the United States and will abolish Liberalism under Pain of Death.

We will bring the Constitution and the Federalist Papers to the New Southern Capitol and Treat Them like the most Precious Things in the Universe (because THEY ARE).

All will be well and we will no longer have to sift thru 100 Languages in the Instructions Manuals of Devices and Goods since we only have to put up with ENGLISH as our FIRST and ONLY Language (well Chinese since they are now our Ally, but who cares about that)

As the Sun sets, we live Happily Ever After in an Obamaless Existence (he was Nuked in Somalia remember and Biden was sent to France along with Reid and Peeloutski) - - they do years of experiments on Peeloutski to try and determine if she is a Man or a Woman - - they can never verify this fact and accept her as possibly Darwin's Missing Link and she is sent to Siberia where she is forced to live in Sight of Sara Palin's House ....

And "LIFE GOES ON" ....................

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(03-31-2009 10:22 PM)STLouis Blazer Wrote:  

Quote:The Prez has flown to England and there’s only one thing to do while he’s gone: Let’s get our country back. Okay, it’s not going to be easy, there are a lot of hurdles. I’m pretty sure I can take Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, and that puffball press secretary Gibbs. Multiple adversary bash-a-thon!!! Hai-Yah!!

Barney Frank I ain’t touchin’… I’m not a homophobe; I simply suffer from an irrational childhood fear of Elmer Fudd.

And Nancy Pelosi? I’m sending my friend Andrew Breitbart in to cross-check her hard into the glass. (I know he’s been dyin’ to get the go-ahead.) I am certain that if I confronted her, she would hit me with that death ray from those Neutronium eyeballs of hers…the same ones that hypnotize the Washington press corps into not busting up every time she opens her mouth.

But seriously, folks. I don’t know why anyone’s surprised. Obama for two years told us what he’s all about. Made it clear as day. And everyone just sort of…looked the other way. ”Oh, he’s not a socialist! He’s just saying those things to keep the far left loonies happy. You watch, he’ll govern from the center.”

Oh really? Well, it’s been only two months and let’s take a look at what he’s done. (Everybody follow along, and please feel free to add anything I’m missing.)

Mr. Obama took Mr. Bush’s bad idea of hundred-billion dollar bailouts and ran with it - on steroids. When Bush’s bailout did nothing to revive the ailing economy, did our new president say, “Wait, that doesn’t work - let’s try something else.”

Uh…no. Instead he figured that because having taxpayers borrow hundreds of billions of dollars from Communist China and handing it over to banks, insurance companies and auto giants to ‘stimulate’ economic activity didn’t do any of that…why he should just go ahead and quadruple the amount and try again! That outta do it!

Then, more than half of his cabinet appointees turn out to be either tax cheats or plagued with scandal. (The same people who are hell-bent to raise our taxes and ‘keep us honest’.)
...continued

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No thanks. I don't want to go back. I want this country to move forward into the modern world not back into the dark ages.

(04-01-2009 02:45 AM)RobertN Wrote:  No thanks. I don't want to go back. I want this country to move forward into the modern world not back into the dark ages.

If where we've been is the dark ages and where we're headed now is the modern world, I'll take the dark ages, thank you.

I'm not saying there are no problems, I'm saying Obama's "solutions" are worse than the problems.

(04-01-2009 02:45 AM)RobertN Wrote:  No thanks. I don't want to go back. I want this country to move forward into the modern world not back into the dark ages.

Like having strong luddite labor unions cripple the country's commerce?

Or maybe sharia?

How about we sacrifice old people and infants (Molech/convenience what's the difference?)

Robert, be careful what you wish for, when things regress as you hope, the utilitarians who run the place won't have much room for the lazy or unintelligent. You're in a scary place in both counts.

RobertN would be tarred and feathered in Jefferson's day.

ObamaMessiah could stay gone, it'd be better. Europe love him, let them have him.

(04-01-2009 01:07 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  ObamaMessiah could stay gone, it'd be better. Europe love him, let them have him.

No, that would leave Biden in charge.
And God forbid anything happen to him, Pelosi.

(04-01-2009 02:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-01-2009 01:07 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  ObamaMessiah could stay gone, it'd be better. Europe love him, let them have him.

No, that would leave Biden in charge.
And God forbid anything happen to him, Pelosi.

Haha, you guys are screwed.

(04-01-2009 02:59 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(04-01-2009 02:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-01-2009 01:07 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  ObamaMessiah could stay gone, it'd be better. Europe love him, let them have him.

No, that would leave Biden in charge.
And God forbid anything happen to him, Pelosi.

Haha, you guys are screwed.

So are you, you just don't know it yet.
In fact, you are probably screwed more than I am.
I doubt very seriously that Obamanomics will hurt me personally that much, becuase of where I am in life.
The main problem I see is that at my age health care is going to become a bigger concern, and socialized medicine is incapable of delivering what I need.
I guess I'll just have to do like my Brit friends and go to France when I get sick.
But there are a lot of good people who are trusting him to do good things, and I'm afraid they are really going to get hurt in the end.

(04-01-2009 02:45 AM)RobertN Wrote:  No thanks. I don't want to go back. I want this country to move forward into the modern world not back into the dark ages.

So the government's take over or dictating what corporations do is a move forward? I'm sure you'd say the same thing about legalizing drugs and gay marriages. And what about unions? The left wants to completely rewrite the employer/employee relationship so the tail wags the dog. Socialism is not a move forward.

(04-01-2009 07:47 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-01-2009 02:45 AM)RobertN Wrote:  No thanks. I don't want to go back. I want this country to move forward into the modern world not back into the dark ages.

Like having strong luddite labor unions cripple the country's commerce?

Or maybe sharia?

How about we sacrifice old people and infants (Molech/convenience what's the difference?)

Robert, be careful what you wish for, when things regress as you hope, the utilitarians who run the place won't have much room for the lazy or unintelligent. You're in a scary place in both counts.

No, like giving the fat cats all the money and everone else scraps. Not to mention, we are now going back to actually using science to help solve problems instead of running away from science. Those are just a couple of the many.

(04-02-2009 02:38 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-01-2009 07:47 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-01-2009 02:45 AM)RobertN Wrote:  No thanks. I don't want to go back. I want this country to move forward into the modern world not back into the dark ages.

Like having strong luddite labor unions cripple the country's commerce?

Or maybe sharia?

How about we sacrifice old people and infants (Molech/convenience what's the difference?)

Robert, be careful what you wish for, when things regress as you hope, the utilitarians who run the place won't have much room for the lazy or unintelligent. You're in a scary place in both counts.

No, like giving the fat cats all the money and everone else scraps. Not to mention, we are now going back to actually using science to help solve problems instead of running away from science. Those are just a couple of the many.

Yeah, you libs are using science when the answer lies in mathematics. As usual, you get it wrong.

(04-02-2009 02:38 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-01-2009 07:47 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-01-2009 02:45 AM)RobertN Wrote:  No thanks. I don't want to go back. I want this country to move forward into the modern world not back into the dark ages.

Like having strong luddite labor unions cripple the country's commerce?
Or maybe sharia?
How about we sacrifice old people and infants (Molech/convenience what's the difference?)
Robert, be careful what you wish for, when things regress as you hope, the utilitarians who run the place won't have much room for the lazy or unintelligent. You're in a scary place in both counts.

No, like giving the fat cats all the money and everone else scraps. Not to mention, we are now going back to actually using science to help solve problems instead of running away from science. Those are just a couple of the many.

I'm okay with the science part, but would point out that prior to Shrub that wasn't a problem.
As for the other, show me a socialist/communist society where the problem of the fat cats having all the money and the rest living on scraps isn't worse than in a capitalist society.
I'd way prefer the next 20 years being like the 20 that Reagan/Bush/Clinton gave us instead of what they're going to be.

(04-02-2009 02:38 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-01-2009 07:47 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-01-2009 02:45 AM)RobertN Wrote:  No thanks. I don't want to go back. I want this country to move forward into the modern world not back into the dark ages.

Like having strong luddite labor unions cripple the country's commerce?

Or maybe sharia?

How about we sacrifice old people and infants (Molech/convenience what's the difference?)

Robert, be careful what you wish for, when things regress as you hope, the utilitarians who run the place won't have much room for the lazy or unintelligent. You're in a scary place in both counts.

No, like giving the fat cats all the money and everone else scraps.

Fat cats like George Soros, who made $1.1B last year? Or maybe you mean Ted Turner. How about Warren Buffett?

Did you get scraps last year, Robert? Because I'm pleased w/ my career opportunities. My biggest hinderence is high taxes.

Quote:Not to mention, we are now going back to actually using science to help solve problems instead of running away from science.

Oh do tell! Please enlighten me on the progress of science.

Let's see where this new administration is taking us


Hmm, seems like cuts for basic science...NASA, NIH, DOE. But DHS is getting more. So what problems are we solving? How is this any different from Bush?

Well, let's take a look at how Bush ran away from science



Oh, I'm sure that didn't include anything useful, probably all to the military



Hmm When Bush was in office NIH, saw huge increases. DOE also saw an appreciable increase. Increases over the very lean years of....Clinton! Wow, go figure, you insult southerners on this board, and yet the one you liked is the only one who fits your negative stereotype.

(04-02-2009 09:51 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Hmm, seems like cuts for basic science...NASA, NIH, DOE. But DHS is getting more. So what problems are we solving? How is this any different from Bush?

The stimulus bill provides and extra 3 billion+ for the NSF - that's an an extra 50% of the total budget for the nation's basic science agency. This is after 5+ Bush-years of stagnation in the science budget, which was especially prevalent in 6.1 work funded by Defense agencies because of the war. The current administrations budget plan has this 50% increase to be a permanent feature by FY 2013-2014.

Quote:Hmm When Bush was in office NIH, saw huge increases. DOE also saw an appreciable increase. Increases over the very lean years of....Clinton!

There was indeed a doubling of the NIH budget - over a 5-year period from 1998-2003. You might want to check who was president in 1998 when this planned draw-up began. (As an aside, this was a terrible example of how to do thing and has really screwed some people over. Many universities used this as an excuse to overbuild their health-related facilities and are paying for it now). DOE research is also likely to benefit if the ARPA-E can show some progress. Bush did some good in getting that started, and at least there's now a physicist in charge of DoE so we might see some movement.

Don't get me wrong - Bush had some very, very good science advisors on his staff. Unfortunately, the war killed most of the momentum from the early years (if you look at 2003-2008 on your chart vice 2001-2003). It's hard to think that anyone who subscribed to the now fortunately recently retracted Texas education "strengths and weaknesses", creation alongside evolution in science class policy and favored limiting promising scientific avenues of experimentation on certain collections of cells as being positive for life science.

(04-02-2009 01:34 PM)Wildebeest Wrote:  

(04-02-2009 09:51 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Hmm, seems like cuts for basic science...NASA, NIH, DOE. But DHS is getting more. So what problems are we solving? How is this any different from Bush?

The stimulus bill provides and extra 3 billion+ for the NSF - that's an an extra 50% of the total budget for the nation's basic science agency. This is after 5+ Bush-years of stagnation in the science budget,

I suppose that's one way to spin it. "stagnation" that's after a 35% increase in his first 3 years.

No comment on that big dip that started in 1993?

Quote:The current administrations budget plan has this 50% increase to be a permanent feature by FY 2013-2014.

Well I've never seen them break a promise yet!

Quote:There was indeed a doubling of the NIH budget - over a 5-year period from 1998-2003. You might want to check who was president in 1998 when this planned draw-up began. (As an aside, this was a terrible example of how to do thing and has really screwed some people over. Many universities used this as an excuse to overbuild their health-related facilities and are paying for it now).

Growing the gov't, particularly rapidly, is almost always a bad idea. DHS' rapid growth has also been fraught w/ negatives.

Quote:DOE research is also likely to benefit if the ARPA-E can show some progress. Bush did some good in getting that started, and at least there's now a physicist in charge of DoE so we might see some movement.

ARPA-E is a terrible idea. If the DOE can't do anything w/ a $25B budget, then what's ARPA-E going to do?

The DOE labs need a clear mission, and Chu will be horrible at providing sound direction.

Quote:It's hard to think that anyone who subscribed to the now fortunately recently retracted Texas education "strengths and weaknesses", creation alongside evolution in science class policy and favored limiting promising scientific avenues of experimentation on certain collections of cells as being positive for life science.

I don't find it hard to think that at all. Of course that's easier if you look at the truth and don't buy your weak spin.
I went through the Young Scientist Network years of Clinton, I know when a president abhors science.

(04-02-2009 02:15 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  I suppose that's one way to spin it. "stagnation" that's after a 35% increase in his first 3 years.

An increase that was primarily due to the NIH doubling that was put in place before he even took office. Good for him for not ruining the plan.

Quote:No comment on that big dip that started in 1993?

Sure I'll comment. When the economy is doing well, there's more discretionary $$$ to throw at science. See the bump in the middle of Reagan's tenure after fixing the Carter economic problem, or at the end of Clinton - beginning of the Bush term. The economy goes to crap, the tendency is to flatline the science budget as much as possible - see early Reagan, early Clinton, late Bush. At least Obama talks the talk on scientific innovation rather than financial instrument invention being a better route towards maintain the U.S. standard of living.

Quote:Well I've never seen them break a promise yet!

They're weren't the ones who threw out erroneous data to try to prove a point - that $3 billion increase this year is real, doesn't include the ARRA inputs to other agencies, and yet somehow got neglected from the graph your were trying to use to demonstrate your point.

Quote:ARPA-E is a terrible idea. If the DOE can't do anything w/ a $25B budget, then what's ARPA-E going to do?

The DOE labs need a clear mission, and Chu will be horrible at providing sound direction.

The current DOE setup isn't working as well as it should. It's a big government entity that is bogged down. It's a cushy job if you can get it.

ARPA-E represents an opportunity to transform the traditional way of doing things for the DoE; it's better than the status quo. If they can get DARPA-type results for the energy problem, we'll be in good shape going forward.

Unfortunately, I fear Chu's global warming kick is going to direct too much effort towards things like CO2 sequestration.

Quote:I don't find it hard to think that at all. Of course that's easier if you look at the Truth and don't buy your weak spin.

The problem comes in when the scientific truth tends to be different than the Truth taught in Baptist (i.e. fundamentalist Christian towelhead) Sunday schools. I'm pretty sure Bush's objections weren't based in any reasonable level of scientific understanding.

(04-02-2009 03:02 PM)Wildebeest Wrote:  ARPA-E represents an opportunity to transform the traditional way of doing things for the DoE; it's better than the status quo. If they can get DARPA-type results for the energy problem, we'll be in good shape going forward.

I know something about DARPA, and those are not the results I would want in order to move forward...certainly not in the commercial realm. ARPA-Net and GPS are the exceptions, not the rule.