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RE: Oklahoma Republican attempts to squelch Free Speech at State Universities
(03-10-2009 05:17 PM)Wildebeest Wrote:  
(03-09-2009 02:48 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  I know this is about free speach........ somewhere the fuc_k in here.

It was. Creationists-IDers are all about "teaching both sides", except when it hurts their feelings.

More hypocrisy from their side - go figure.

Wow, you just completely reverse the facts...and you wonder why I question the integrity of these "scientists"? It does make it easier to support your hypothesis, if you're willing to fabricate your data...
03-11-2009 09:16 AM
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(03-11-2009 09:16 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Wow, you just completely reverse the facts...

WTF? The whole resolution that started this was written by a creationist who didn't want his feelings hurt because students might be exposed to so someone with a different viewpoint.

So there's reading and science - is there any other skill in which you want to demonstrate your incompetence?
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RE: Oklahoma Republican attempts to squelch Free Speech at State Universities
One more time, the resolution doesn't say what you claim.
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Why screw up a good opinion with any facts.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican attempts to squelch Free Speech at State Universities
(03-09-2009 02:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  If you want to see micro examples of evolution ... look no further than AIDS adapting to ethnicity, or regional immunity to the plague, or symbiosis between Koala and gut bacteria, or isolation driven evolution (Darwin's finches, etc), or superbugs, or the flu. Notice most of these examples are on the bacterial level, further supporting the ground-up-gradual-slope of evolution.

Beak size increasing 5% during a drought and the finches being left with only hard to crack seeds, and the part of this story that strangely always gets left out, they return to normal with the rains, is not evolution.

But then you believe a lion learning to swim is proof of evolution also.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican attempts to squelch Free Speech at State Universities
(03-15-2009 12:09 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-09-2009 02:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  If you want to see micro examples of evolution ... look no further than AIDS adapting to ethnicity, or regional immunity to the plague, or symbiosis between Koala and gut bacteria, or isolation driven evolution (Darwin's finches, etc), or superbugs, or the flu. Notice most of these examples are on the bacterial level, further supporting the ground-up-gradual-slope of evolution.

Beak size increasing 5% during a drought and the finches being left with only hard to crack seeds, and the part of this story that strangely always gets left out, they return to normal with the rains, is not evolution.

But then you believe a lion learning to swim is proof of evolution also.

these are all examples of Micro-Evolution

not Macro-Evolution which is the acutal issue here, that some confuse together on purpose.

2 entirely different things
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RE: Oklahoma Republican attempts to squelch Free Speech at State Universities
(03-15-2009 09:47 PM)GGniner Wrote:  
(03-15-2009 12:09 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-09-2009 02:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  If you want to see micro examples of evolution ... look no further than AIDS adapting to ethnicity, or regional immunity to the plague, or symbiosis between Koala and gut bacteria, or isolation driven evolution (Darwin's finches, etc), or superbugs, or the flu. Notice most of these examples are on the bacterial level, further supporting the ground-up-gradual-slope of evolution.

Beak size increasing 5% during a drought and the finches being left with only hard to crack seeds, and the part of this story that strangely always gets left out, they return to normal with the rains, is not evolution.

But then you believe a lion learning to swim is proof of evolution also.

these are all examples of Micro-Evolution

not Macro-Evolution which is the acutal issue here, that some confuse together on purpose.

2 entirely different things

My apologies to gts if I misunderstand him, but from this thread started by him, it appears he believes the finches and lions are macro examples.

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=232023
Posts 1, 8, and 13

He did make some micro examples above, but he specifically refered to isolation driven evolution (?) in the case of the finches.
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