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Mexico's President Sends SOS to US
President Felipe Calderon is the first Mexican President who is seriously trying to get the drug lords. deadly serious. More power to him

Mexico's President Sends SOS: We Need U.S. Help in Drug Wars
Mexican President Felipe Calderon says his country isn't a failed state, but he needs U.S. help in fighting a brutal and growing drug war that is spreading into major U.S. cities. At least 7,000 people have been killed in the last year in a conflict that experts say is now more violent than the war in Iraq
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Mexico's President: We Need U.S. Help in Drug Wars

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:09 PM

Rick Pedraza


Mexican President Felipe Calderon says the United States must show “through its actions” that it “assumes its part of responsibility in this fight” against drug trafficking along the Mexico-U.S. border, but he made clear he would not support a U.S. military intervention.


“I appreciate the new stance of the American administration, which has expressed a desire to collaborate more broadly – not with Mexico – but in the fight against a common problem,” Calderon said in a speech at a joint press conference yesterday with French President Nicolas Sarkozy.


Calderon says as Americans continue to use drugs, smuggling cannot be eliminated. He says the battle for control of territory among organized cartels and drug lords has now claimed more than 7,200 lives since January 2008, including six more killed yesterday in a series of attacks in the Pacific coast state of Guerrero, the Associated Press reports.


Along with the six killed yesterday, including the police chief of Pungarabato, were five others gunned down in Tierra Caliente, the state police said. Also Monday, gunmen shot and killed a Michoacan state police commander outside police headquarters in the city of Zamora, AP reports.


Despite Calderon’s hopes to quell the rampant drug violence in the region by the end of his term in 2012, he declined to give a specific timeline for winning the war against drug gangs.


In the meantime, the U.S. has declared a wide swath of Mexico off-limits to “non-essential” travel by government personnel and has issued a travel “alert” for Americans heading to Mexico, the State Department says.


The U.S. Joint Forces Command recently put Mexicot on par with Pakistan, saying both were at risk of "rapid and sudden collapse." Calderon, however, disputes U.S. fears that his government is losing control of its territory.


"To say that Mexico is a failed state is absolutely false," Calderon told the Associated Press last week. "I have not lost any part -- any single part -- of Mexican territory."


Calderon is calling on the U.S. to do more in the war on drugs along the border. He would like to stop the flow of U.S. assault weapons and cash into his country, along with corruption on both sides of the border.


"I'm fighting corruption among Mexican authorities and risking everything to clean house,” Calderon says of the more than 25 high-level officials arrested for suspicion of taking drug bribes, AP reports.


“But I think a good cleaning is in order on the other side of the border," he said.


Calderon applauds cross-border efforts with the U.S. that culminate in drug and smuggling arrests, but he acknowledges that Mexico “can not be the top U.S. priority. President Obama would help Mexico most by fixing his own economic crisis.”
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Link please. 01-lauramac2
It works like this.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29516551/

Quote:The Department of Homeland Security said Mexico’s drug cartels were loosely organized into a small number of blocs that are at war with one another and with the government. One is loyal to the Gulf cartel, which is based in Matamoros, across the border from Brownsville, Texas, near the Gulf of Mexico. Another answers to the Sinaloa cartel, which originated in the state of the same name on Mexico’s Pacific coast. A third is organized around the Tijuana cartel, founded by the infamous Arrellano Felix brothers and centered south of San Diego.

The Tijuana cartel is being consumed by a savagely violent internal struggle for control. The violence that most concerns U.S. authorities is the rivalry between Gulf cartel thugs known as Los Zetas — many of them former military and police officers trained in counternarcotics tactics in the United States — and Los Negros, the Sinaloa cartel’s narco-military brigade.

Their battles take place along a 600-or-so-mile stretch of border between Ciudad Juarez, near the point where Texas and New Mexico meet, and Nuevo Laredo, farther south and east, across the border from Laredo, Texas.

U.S. authorities say the region is the most important launching pad for contraband entering the United States — very little goes on there without the knowledge and approval of the Gulf or Sinaloa cartels. There, the war is a fact of life, and it is presumed that it is only a matter of time before it reaches U.S. soil.

“I don’t doubt for one second that it would happen,” said Randy Ponzio, who is from El Paso, Texas, just across the border from Ciudad Juarez. “The drug cartels hold a lot of power.”

Much of the region is desert and rugged mountain terrain, making it difficult to even monitor the cartels’ activities, much less counter them.

“When you’re fighting an enemy you can’t see and you don’t know where they are, how are you going to fight against that?” Ponzio asked.

Great, another war we can't win. 05-stirthepot
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See, we are going to need that Big Tall Wall after all...
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Our craving for drugs is the fuel to this problem. Making it worse are the guns made here and smuggled into Mexico. We have smuggling going both ways, yet when more border security is called for, like a wall, the left starts screaming. The violence is real, the kidnappings are real, the murders are real and so are the beheadings. This is a war and we need to pull the stops out.
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I haven't seen the right do anything about it either. They want the cheap labor coming across the border.
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ummm... no we don't. most of "the right" want them deported
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I'd be all for it. It's as worthwhile a jobs program as any. And extradite the US drug offenders to the Mexican justice system.
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(03-11-2009 03:05 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I haven't seen the right do anything about it either. They want the cheap labor coming across the border.

Then why is immigration reform labeled as a "right wing" issue?
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I still think we ought to put pirranha in the Rio Grande. Of course the Tree Huggers would say that is detrimental to the environment, and of course those who enjoy the sport fishing in the Rio Grande. The US has gotten more and more lax in dealing with USERS of drugs. When possession of crack, pot, heroin are misdemeanors, then deterrance is not a factor. If you faced 30 years for possession, you might be a bit more circumspect about smoking that blunt. And you wouldn't have to lock too many up for people to get the message. Either the US needs to clamp down on use or legalize. We can't have it both ways.
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(03-11-2009 05:32 PM)EastStang Wrote:  I still think we ought to put pirranha in the Rio Grande. Of course the Tree Huggers would say that is detrimental to the environment, and of course those who enjoy the sport fishing in the Rio Grande. The US has gotten more and more lax in dealing with USERS of drugs. When possession of crack, pot, heroin are misdemeanors, then deterrance is not a factor. If you faced 30 years for possession, you might be a bit more circumspect about smoking that blunt. And you wouldn't have to lock too many up for people to get the message. Either the US needs to clamp down on use or legalize. We can't have it both ways.

There was a thread on here a few months ago that had some interesting designs for a wall. By the way, the Border Fence was deleted from the Homeland Security Budget Appropriation this year. Surprise surprise....
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Legalize drugs.... take the money out of the black market. Tax it... then put in a national transportation network in with the revenue.
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(03-11-2009 03:05 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I haven't seen the right do anything about it either. They want the cheap labor coming across the border.

Are you kidding? It's only the right that's screaming. The left want's open borders and citizenship for all.
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(03-11-2009 08:49 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Legalize drugs.... take the money out of the black market. Tax it... then put in a national transportation network in with the revenue.

You would still have a black market.. Government would regulate and set the price for the commodity, yet someone would still smuggle the stuff in and sell it for a lower price.
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One call from the Mexican president, and six American Tomahawks find their way to six drug lord compounds.

However, of every undesirable clan or country on earth, I would be most afraid of what a drug cartel would do in revenge - probably on American soil at that.....
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(03-11-2009 08:49 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Legalize drugs.... take the money out of the black market. Tax it... then put in a national transportation network in with the revenue.

Wow, and you teach the next generation?

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(03-11-2009 09:43 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  
(03-11-2009 08:49 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Legalize drugs.... take the money out of the black market. Tax it... then put in a national transportation network in with the revenue.

You would still have a black market.. Government would regulate and set the price for the commodity, yet someone would still smuggle the stuff in and sell it for a lower price.

Maybe, but it would be a very small piece of the pie. Kinda like bootleg liquor since the repeal of prohibition. Only less so, because the economics of illegal drug smuggling are so different. Maybe some local growers, but not smugglers.
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Obviously, if you opt to legalize, then you have to choose what drugs. Do you legalize, marijuana? FYI apparently RJ Reynolds and Philip Morris have already trademarked names for cigarettes that would only be used if pot were legal like Mary Janes, Doobies, Tiajuana Golds. How about cocaine (crack)? How about PCP? Heroin? Meth? Ecstacy? Roofies? There will continue to be a black market for those not legalized. The more you move up the chain the more the price in addicts and crime caused by addicts.
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(03-12-2009 11:36 AM)EastStang Wrote:  Obviously, if you opt to legalize, then you have to choose what drugs. Do you legalize, marijuana? FYI apparently RJ Reynolds and Philip Morris have already trademarked names for cigarettes that would only be used if pot were legal like Mary Janes, Doobies, Tiajuana Golds. How about cocaine (crack)? How about PCP? Heroin? Meth? Ecstacy? Roofies? There will continue to be a black market for those not legalized. The more you move up the chain the more the price in addicts and crime caused by addicts.

Definitely a legitimate question.
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When you legalize drugs, you open a Pandora's Box that cannot be shut. As a society, do we really want to go down that road? And who is to decide for all of us? People who want to legalize cannot fathom the unintended consequences of this action. Nor IMHO do they want to.
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