yep, it would be nice to have a State Dept. that actually is an advocate for the United States of America. aside from their mental weaknesses being so infuriating, its sad because if not for them America could do so much for the world, similar to what Britain was able to do. You have to be Unapologetic about it however, and definitely not feel inferior to the modern Europeans.


Hillary giving the Russians a "Red Buttom", aside from classless, was un-comforting for lack of a better word.

The button was supposed to say "RESET" in Russian, instead it said "overcharge".

yeah, and aside from it being an incompetent and classless moment its also just creepy.

a US Head of State, presenting the Russians with a "Red Button" after years of the Cold war "red button" fears and of course KGB led Russia re-emerging in recent years.

I'm sure they got a kick out of it back in the Kremlin

(03-10-2009 12:57 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  it looks like Obama is trying so hard to make people who hate us turn around and like us that he's forgetting about the people who already like us. Anybody want to bet what country he'll insult next? I say Germany or Japan.

Australia and Israel are both good candidates.

I wouldn't expect S Korea to be too far behind.

We're seeing 2 trends where the Obama administration is struggling; tasteful etiquette and paying taxes. When the smoke, mirrors and BS is gone they're just as low as the next guy.

(03-10-2009 03:27 PM)GGniner Wrote:  yeah, and aside from it being an incompetent and classless moment its also just creepy.

a US Head of State, presenting the Russians with a "Red Button" after years of the Cold war "red button" fears and of course KGB led Russia re-emerging in recent years.

I'm sure they got a kick out of it back in the Kremlin

If anything, I've been 100% anti conspiracy about anything and everything - I pray at the alter of Occam's Razor.

But, how, just how! could the United States State Department, with its floors of Russian experts, get something like this so remarkably wrong?

Unless......

.......Obamacons at State gave Clinton the wrong word, knowing it would make her look bad?

Hmmm

/some sarcasm, but not as much as usual

it is a head scratcher, but that is the State dept. in a nutshell

Everyone rises to a level of incompetence.

(03-10-2009 04:10 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Everyone rises to a level of incompetence.

Hilary is a victim of the Peter Principle

Peter Principle
n.
The theory that employees within an organization will advance to their highest level of competence and then be promoted to and remain at a level at which they are incompetent.

(03-10-2009 03:02 PM)GGniner Wrote:  yep, it would be nice to have a State Dept. that actually is an advocate for the United States of America. aside from their mental weaknesses being so infuriating, its sad because if not for them America could do so much for the world, similar to what Britain was able to do. You have to be Unapologetic about it however, and definitely not feel inferior to the modern Europeans.


Hillary giving the Russians a "Red Button", aside from classless, was un-comforting for lack of a better word.

What would have really been GREAT .... if the 'Little Button Thingy' would have been rigged to Explode Out a Bunch of Spring Snakes when the Russian pushed it - - you know like the old "Exploding Cigar" gag ....

OH !!!!!! Hilary & Cigar ..... I see now ....



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(03-10-2009 12:57 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  it looks like Obama is trying so hard to make people who hate us turn around and like us that he's forgetting about the people who already like us. Anybody want to bet what country he'll insult next? I say Germany or Japan.

I say the United States... repeatedly

(03-12-2009 04:29 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-10-2009 12:57 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  it looks like Obama is trying so hard to make people who hate us turn around and like us that he's forgetting about the people who already like us. Anybody want to bet what country he'll insult next? I say Germany or Japan.

I say the United States... repeatedly

(03-10-2009 01:32 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(03-10-2009 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-09-2009 06:21 PM)Zipfanatik Wrote:  He needs to quit his cigarette habit...his energy would improve. Come on, BO, do it for the kids.

I didn't hear you asking Bush to quit his drinking "habit" for his kids-heck, his kids even took up his habit.

Bush hadn't had a drink in many, many years before ever entering the presidency. He also didn't serve a party seeking bankrupt the tobacco industry.

But let's not let facts get in the way of yet another moronic post by you.

I swear I'm amazed you have the mental faculties to turn on a PC, much less use it.

You can believe what you want but I don't buy it for one second.

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So you now admit to living in an alternate reality.

(03-13-2009 03:00 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-10-2009 01:32 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(03-10-2009 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-09-2009 06:21 PM)Zipfanatik Wrote:  He needs to quit his cigarette habit...his energy would improve. Come on, BO, do it for the kids.

I didn't hear you asking Bush to quit his drinking "habit" for his kids-heck, his kids even took up his habit.

Bush hadn't had a drink in many, many years before ever entering the presidency. He also didn't serve a party seeking bankrupt the tobacco industry.
But let's not let facts get in the way of yet another moronic post by you.
I swear I'm amazed you have the mental faculties to turn on a PC, much less use it.

You can believe what you want but I don't buy it for one second.

Rob, you got any particular facts to support that?
Or is this another case of, "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with any facts"?

(03-13-2009 09:05 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-13-2009 03:00 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-10-2009 01:32 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(03-10-2009 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-09-2009 06:21 PM)Zipfanatik Wrote:  He needs to quit his cigarette habit...his energy would improve. Come on, BO, do it for the kids.

I didn't hear you asking Bush to quit his drinking "habit" for his kids-heck, his kids even took up his habit.

Bush hadn't had a drink in many, many years before ever entering the presidency. He also didn't serve a party seeking bankrupt the tobacco industry.
But let's not let facts get in the way of yet another moronic post by you.
I swear I'm amazed you have the mental faculties to turn on a PC, much less use it.

You can believe what you want but I don't buy it for one second.

Rob, you got any particular facts to support that?
Or is this another case of, "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with any facts"?

Robert al-N doesn't deal in facts. He's not capable of recognizing them in the first place, and if he were he doesn't have the intellectual capacity to rationalize them.

He's part of the lowest common denominator of the American electorate. A constituency of useful idiots that can be manipulated because they lack the ability, or desire, to think for themselves. Some deserve pity, those like Robert deserve nothing but our ridicule and continual efforts to render them as useless as they are.

(03-13-2009 09:05 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-13-2009 03:00 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-10-2009 01:32 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(03-10-2009 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-09-2009 06:21 PM)Zipfanatik Wrote:  He needs to quit his cigarette habit...his energy would improve. Come on, BO, do it for the kids.

I didn't hear you asking Bush to quit his drinking "habit" for his kids-heck, his kids even took up his habit.

Bush hadn't had a drink in many, many years before ever entering the presidency. He also didn't serve a party seeking bankrupt the tobacco industry.
But let's not let facts get in the way of yet another moronic post by you.
I swear I'm amazed you have the mental faculties to turn on a PC, much less use it.

You can believe what you want but I don't buy it for one second.

Rob, you got any particular facts to support that?
Or is this another case of, "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with any facts"?

Given the fact that he was governor before being President... claims about his drinking shouldn't have been hard to prove... or at least question. Clinton had people in his secret service detail and state troopers from his time as governor that had no problem "spilling"... and if they can find a picture of Michael Phelps smoking pot, finding a picture of GWB drinking something that was even LIKELY alcohol should have been a piece of cake.

He was a pretty well documented minor alcoholic... so there would have been witnesses.

(03-10-2009 01:11 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(03-10-2009 12:57 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  it looks like Obama is trying so hard to make people who hate us turn around and like us that he's forgetting about the people who already like us. Anybody want to bet what country he'll insult next? I say Germany or Japan.

My guess?

Australia.

wrong, and wrong to Israel as well.

White House Misspells Brazilian Leader’s Name, Bumps Visit With Obama to Saturday

it was Brazil.....that is if you don't count the United States.


wonder if the MSM will ever turn on the president they got elected, and realize he's actually doing everything they projected was being done the previous 8 yrs.

(03-13-2009 08:50 AM)Paul M Wrote:  ^
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So you now admit to living in an alternate reality.

No. The real one. I just see "drunkenness" when I see Bush walk into doors, fall off his bike, consistently make rediculous speeches etc. What do you see?

(03-13-2009 01:18 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-13-2009 08:50 AM)Paul M Wrote:  ^
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So you now admit to living in an alternate reality.

No. The real one. I just see "drunkenness" when I see Bush walk into doors, fall off his bike, consistently make rediculous speeches etc. What do you see?

Robert's reality is him standing on his head and telling us that our world is upside down.