This guy disguises his article as if he is trying to defend the BE, bit spills nothing but pure hatred:




Blog ... The Big East Manifesto

By J.P. Girouard
CollegeFootballNews.com
Posted Jul 4, 2008


One might think the Big East is the worst BCS football conference. You might be right. But here are seven reasons to go ahead and root for them anyway.


By J.P. Girouard

There are likely few more thankless jobs than being the "guy who defends the Big East football conference as being something other than a borderline BCS participant". The statiscal evidence to that fact is pronounced: after all, numerous computer rankings claim that out of six BCS conferences, the Big East ranks sixth. That's last, and that's apparently not very good. And if you were unfortunate enough to watch the 2007 Sun Bowl or the 2004 Champs Sports Bowl - especially if you had money on the Big East participants in those games - your regard for the conference might be lower still.

But there are reasons to root for the Big East - and not just because they're normally the "plucky little underdogs" or because West Virginia runs an arcade-style offense. In fact, there are seven reasons why Big East football is worthy of your love and attention.

7. The 2007 Big East Heisman commercial. Yes, Matt Zemek hated it. And nobody is going to argue that it was anything other than pretentious or over-the-top and it was ridiculously premature to run said commercial in the second week of the season.

But c'mon, what other conference has the stones to do that? There was no dramatic voice-over in a commercial for Darren McFadden or Tim Tebow. Colt Brennan wasn't featured smiling uncomfortably for the camera while touching the Heisman Trophy. Only the Big East had the combination of media dollars and complete insecurity over the chances of Ray Rice and Pat White to win the Heisman that they felt it necessary.

6. The Rutgers run in '06. Admit it, they reeled you in. The scrappy bunch of underdogs, playing as a team (as Kirk Herbstreit reminded you about 7,912 times during the Rutgers-Louisville game) and defying the odds to win 11 games and come within an eyelash of the BCS. Sure, other Big East teams have had big runs - South Florida got up to #2 in the BCS last year, for example. But everyone was down with Rutgers in a way that wouldn't happen to, say, Baylor. Even if you thought there was something not quite right about that Brian Leonard kid.

5. You can make really cool, quasi-bogus statistical cases for them. For example, take the "Big East went 5-0 in bowl games in 2006" gambit. It's hard to argue against a conference that went undefeated in the postseason, right? Well, if two of the five wins were over mid-major also-rans and another was over the eighth-best team in the Big 12, it might be easy to argue against them. But at the end of the day, the Big East won the Bowl Challenge trophy - and as long as the Big East plays mid-major also-rans and bottom-feeders from BCS conferences in the majority of their bowl games, contention for that trophy should continue.

4. They play 'em when, um, ESPN wants them to. Whether it's Thursday, Friday or even Sunday, the Big East is willing to satisfy the degenerate gambler/college football junkie in all of us. How many other major conferences agree to put their biggest traditional rivalry (West Virginia/Pitt) and non-conference game (Auburn/West Virginia) on days other than Saturday? And do so year after year? (Ok, the Big 12 puts Texas A&M/Texas on the day after Thanksgiving; but that's the exception, not the rule.)

It's this kind of fan-friendly approach (or money grubbing, if you're a heartless cynic) that can soften even the most hardened of hearts. Moreover, it lends itself to the weird dynamic mentioned above - the Big East has the clout to play in BCS games, yet thinks so little of itself that it sees the need to put its games on in time slots often reserved for the MAC and Conference USA.

3. You still take the Big East's side in the whole sordid Miami/Boston College/Virginia Tech affair. We all know that nobody likes to take sides in a divorce. At least not unless it's the Britney Spears/Kevin Federline dissolution, in which you should've been perfectly ok with the idea of classifying Spears (even before it was cool to do so) as a crazy freak. The reality is that the traitors/ACC member institutions left the Big East knowing that they would cripple the conference. And not only that, the defection was done in a backroom, middle-of-the-night, Colts-to-Indianapolis kind of way. All that was missing was the Mayflower moving van.

Now thankfully, C-USA and its Feeder Program For Other Conferences tm stepped up to save the day. And the misfortunes of Miami and banishment of Boston College to bowl ghettos have been the College Football God's payback for their sins. But the one most admirable silver lining to come out of the whole mess was the Big East's rise from the ashes...

2. ...because when those schools left - 2004 turned out to be a really, really, really bad year for Big East football that makes virtually any other season look good by comparison.Call it the premise of vastly lowered expectations, but Big East football was a dreadful sack of bad in 2004. Everyone remembers the absolute Fiesta Bowl phone-in by Pitt (it would be too generous to suggest they mailed it in, because mailing something generally takes some effort) but the entire Big East conference was awful in 2004. C'mon, remember Big-East co-champion...6-6 Syracuse? Only Sun Belt champions are allowed to have .500 overall records.

The good news, however, is that 2004's awfulness made West Virginia's run in 2005 and Louisville's ascension the following year even more surprising to the casual fan. Expectations for conference teams are almost permanently lowered, as evidenced by Big East teams being significant underdogs in two of the last three BCS games - that they won.

1. It's traditional Eastern football, baby.The Big East is real football, played by long-standing powers like Syracuse...uh, Pittsburgh...eh, Boston College? Gone. Penn State? Big Ten. Notre Dame? Never joining.

Ok, the "new" Big East is a bunch of former mid-majors surrounded by new I-A programs and the sloppy seconds of the previous incarnation. It isn't always pretty. It lacks the tradition and long-standing rivalries of the more established conferences. But someday, when one of these intrepid underdogs make the ultimate leap and win the national championship, the rest of the country will stand up in unision and shout with one voice, loud and clear...

...that it's time for a playoff.

what a douche....does anybody have this clowns email address?


Way to try and have a pos. BE article but in reality cut us down. What the F has the ACC done since the split? They are Oh-for in BCS games. I notice the guy forgot to mention that BCS wins by the BE but then again, that would have contradicted his lame ass premise.
I don't think beating Georgia, Wake, or Okalahoma are BCS also rans....nor is Auburn, Oregon State, or Maryland. DOUCHE!

This is the kind of article that pisses me off to no end because it's reiniforcing what the general populace outside of the BE already thinks.

All we can do is just keep winning.....and we NEED a national champ to come out of the BE.

He's just looking forward to getting riled up BE fans to send him hate mail. No biggie.

A national championship is the only thing that will ultimately shut these clowns up. Until a member of the current configuration of The BEast wins it all as a BEast member (post ACC raid), we'll be belittled. The reason for the belittling may change. But it will continue until we win it all and beat these jerks over the head with the trophy.

He was one of the idiots who predicted the Big East's demise. Now that we have proven to be a national power clowns like this have to look for a reason put us down. The mainstream media is giving us respect though so who cares about a hack writer?

Thanks Cuseroc for the post. I printed that article because my garden needed some fetilizer in the soil. I figured no one would mind if I put this in its proper place. LOL

I'll tell ya what....unlike many other conference, it's crap like this that really makes me a big fan of each and every BE football school!!! I want to see each one go out and dominate the OOC schedules!

GO Big East!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I love this conference!

Quote:"1. It's traditional Eastern football, baby.The Big East is real football, played by long-standing powers like Syracuse...uh, Pittsburgh...eh, Boston College? Gone. Penn State? Big Ten. Notre Dame? Never joining.

Ok, the "new" Big East is a bunch of former mid-majors surrounded by new I-A programs and the sloppy seconds of the previous incarnation. It isn't always pretty. It lacks the tradition and long-standing rivalries of the more established conferences. But someday, when one of these intrepid underdogs make the ultimate leap and win the national championship, the rest of the country will stand up in unision and shout with one voice, loud and clear...

...that it's time for a playoff."

Since when was Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, Rutgers ever midmajor's. Pitt won 9 N.C's WVU is a traditional power but only lacking National Titles and i'm almost sure Syracuse won a N.C.

I didn't know Louisville and Cincinnati was new 1A programs.

This whole article was nothing but blah to me. Wished I had a printer or i'd wipe my arse with it. oh bummer.

The dude's a monumental tool, however I have to take note of how he ended his idiot piece, about if a BE team wins the NC then people would scream for a playoff. At least a +1, I could really see that happening, especially if the media is full of non-funny numbnuts like this guy.

Animus, let's face it Rutgers was major in name only until the last couple of years. I'm a huge Rutgers fan as anyone knows but I'm no apologist. Cuse will be back, Pitt is definitely on its way, WVU is doing fantastic. Cincy is becoming the Eastern power they should be. Louisville is rebuilding a bit. USF is becoming exactly what we expected. UConn isn't surprising me much, they have an administration that gets it done. The guy is a huge tool but unfortunately this is the perception of most of the country. The Big East has to do two things to finally get respect:
A) Put two teams in the BCS and win both games.
B) Win a National Championship
And not a slight against the 4 newer members but that NC has to come from one of the old BE 4 so as to not give them ammunition of well see it was one of those new programs that saved the Big East.

Crimsonelf Wrote:The dude's a monumental tool, however I have to take note of how he ended his idiot piece, about if a BE team wins the NC then people would scream for a playoff. At least a +1, I could really see that happening, especially if the media is full of non-funny numbnuts like this guy.

That was the only part of this hit job that everyone probably knows had a thread of truth.

PirateMarv Wrote:

Crimsonelf Wrote:The dude's a monumental tool, however I have to take note of how he ended his idiot piece, about if a BE team wins the NC then people would scream for a playoff. At least a +1, I could really see that happening, especially if the media is full of non-funny numbnuts like this guy.

That was the only part of this hit job that everyone probably knows had a thread of truth.

Every year people are screaming for a playoff. I don't see how much different it would be if a BE team won it, especially if it had a decent OOC schedule (like WVU this year, for instance.)

There's always someone who feels screwed at the end of the year (and many times rightfully so.) There is always a huge debate about playoff vs. BCS bowls, every year. I don't think a BE team winning the championship would make it that much more intense, as there would have to be a win over someone like USC or Georgia or OU, for instance, in order to win the title.

animus Wrote:Wished I had a printer or i'd wipe my arse with it.

Animus said it best

bitcruncher Wrote:A national championship is the only thing that will ultimately shut these clowns up. Until a member of the current configuration of The BEast wins it all as a BEast member (post ACC raid), we'll be belittled. The reason for the belittling may change. But it will continue until we win it all and beat these jerks over the head with the trophy.

Bit, I don't think that would even stop writers like him. He would finesse over it & continue the belittling.

brista21 Wrote:Animus, let's face it Rutgers was major in name only until the last couple of years. I'm a huge Rutgers fan as anyone knows but I'm no apologist. Cuse will be back, Pitt is definitely on its way, WVU is doing fantastic. Cincy is becoming the Eastern power they should be. Louisville is rebuilding a bit. USF is becoming exactly what we expected. UConn isn't surprising me much, they have an administration that gets it done. The guy is a huge tool but unfortunately this is the perception of most of the country. The Big East has to do two things to finally get respect:
A) Put two teams in the BCS and win both games.
B) Win a National Championship
And not a slight against the 4 newer members but that NC has to come from one of the old BE 4 so as to not give them ammunition of well see it was one of those new programs that saved the Big East.

I can agree with that. But the same time, Vanderbilt, Duke, Arizona, Kansas(minus last season, Iowa St are majors by name only. So other conferences have the same problems the B.E. .

This guy is a true hater. There will always be people like him around. He's probably an ACC fan and he is mad because the BE is doing so well after the raid it sort of make the ACC look like a bunch of fools.
The Heisman commercials probably boosted our guys egos and gave them and their teams something to aim for. It was also a nice reward for the players who did so well they helped secure the BCS for all of us.

No matter what the BE accomplishes, this guy will always hate us because he's a playa hater and even without Miami, VT and BC (who cares) we're still players.