Divide and conquer is ND's gameplan with the big east football school's. I think if the big east wants to keep this monster of a conf together, they should expand to 18 with st louis U and Umemphis. Force ND to play 3 big east football teams h/a every year and rotate those game, thus every big east team would play ND twice, h/a in a 6 year span. Otherwise, they should just split, no nd tag along and let ND play whovever and however they want...what's next the pitt series will be played in philly? as a home game for pitt? As for ND playing on the east coast, they should but they should play army or navy in fox or meadowlands not force big east football school's to play them there...i guess with this deal with cuse, the uconn series will be played in fox now.

The dome just isn't big enough for the Notre Dame egos.

panite Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:

TexanMark Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:-- So in other words you guys are going to be playing 10 road games...To say I would be disappointed in Syracuse would be a large understatment. I hope its just a rumor

Jackson

Well not quite as bad as that...a significant alumni base is in and around the NYC Metro area. Our AD fancies our team as NY State's team. More like as an example of WVU signing a 10 year deal to play 5 in SB and 5 in Charleston, WV.

I have no idea if this is legit...like everyone else I would hope a couple games would be in the Dome.

-- I'm not sure if the Charleston comparison works in this case...I have no doubt there are a lot of SU alums in NYC, but I would think there are several times more Notre Dame football fans in NY/NJ. I hope I'm wrong

I would think the best SU could hope for is a 50/50 fan split in the meadowlands. Would SU bus some students down for the game?

Jackson

If the terms of the deal are as rumored, I would not go down there for any of the games against ND. That is just dumb for the Cuse to sink to such levels. Dr Gross is setting a new low for our fb program, if this is true. And I didnt think that was possible.

Does this mean you will be getting rid of him and the FB coach if the trend of the last couple of years continues?

YEP

I can't find anything else about this. I doubt it has legs, but nowadays nothing surprises me.

If it is true they need to play 1 or 2 games in the Dome. Otherwise, just say no thanks.

cuseroc Wrote:

panite Wrote:Does this mean you will be getting rid of him and the FB coach if the trend of the last couple of years continues?

YEP

Big East teams need to demand a home/away/neutral rotation of 3-3-4 ... or 2-2-6 ... or 1-1-8 ... or 0-0-10 ... when dealing with Notre Dame for a series of this length. The home games need to match their home games and the neutral games have to be an even number so the two teams can at least alternate who dresses in light or dark uniforms each time out although those contests would all be a part of the NBC television package.

Briliant move by SYC, inseason bowl game, season tickets will increase, gets NYC area into the program as matter fact NY state will show more intrest in SYC program.
Didn't any you guys take bussiness or marketing when you went to college, this is what they teach.
Yeah one game a yr in Meadowlands would not hurt, play Penn St or USC there

templefootballfan Wrote:Briliant move by SYC, inseason bowl game, season tickets will increase, gets NYC area into the program as matter fact NY state will show more intrest in SYC program.
Didn't any you guys take bussiness or marketing when you went to college, this is what they teach.
Yeah one game a yr in Meadowlands would not hurt, play Penn St or USC there

Agree with some of you in that I'm not sure how legit this is, but I can't really say this is that horrible of a thing. Sure, it would be great to have a game or two at the Dome, but the money is going to be just as good, if not greater and it allows the huge SU fanbase in NYC/Philly/NJ to easily see SU play. Plus you're getting national exposure every year and it gives a game every year in NJ with Meadowlands + Rutgers (huge recruiting territory). To be honest, I have no doubt that SU wants to be playing in NYC (or just outside of it to be technical).

I really don't think anyone here has the right to criticize Syracuse's scheduling, because they consistantly have the best schedule of BE teams year-in and year-out...by a long shot. To develop long-standing series with ND and BC (+ 7 BE games) leaves them with only 3 games a year to have to be scheduled.

Stop thinking the world has come to an end. There's more money in this. Why do you think Mizzou and Kansas have decided to play their games at Arrowhead Stadium in KC?

agree, and that seems to be the perception of most outside of the BE. It stings a bit now, but it won't in 5 years if ND is ranked no. 1 playing the cuse @meadowlands.

Orange Eagles Wrote:Stop thinking the world has come to an end. There's more money in this. Why do you think Mizzou and Kansas have decided to play their games at Arrowhead Stadium in KC?

I can tell you why. The KC thing for Mizzou-KU so far was only for last year & this year. In both cases, the home team (Kansas last year, Mizzou this year) would have had seven games on campus and could afford to give one up to get the additional gate.

I'm willing to wager that any season that KU or Mizzou with only six games home, they don't play in KC. Right now, Colorado is begging Colorado St. not to play the 2009 game in Denver but to play it at Boulder because a Denver game would leave Colorado with only five games in Boulder (4 Big 12 games plus Wyoming at home, 4 Big 12 games plus W. Virginia and Miami (OH) on the road).

If SU is giving up a home game in a season where they would only have six on campus, they need to rethink this decision.

I wouldn't think that would be the plan.

mattsarz Wrote:If SU is giving up a home game in a season where they would only have six on campus, they need to rethink this decision.

TIGER-PAUL Wrote:I wouldn't think that would be the plan.

Correct. As much as you Louisville (etc) fans seem to think the SU administration is full of idiots, they would schedule that game during the years when they have 7 home games.

Is it really such a bad deal for Syracuse from a longterm strategic point of view?

Syracuse's huge following in NYC should mitigate any concerns about the Meadowlands being filled mostly with IRish fans. Secondly, playing in the city makes CUSE football an event again. Of course, this all falls apart if the Orangemen are not competitive and lose the first 4 games. If that happens....it could set the program back for years. Hopefully the real deal will have a few games in upstate NY but playing the meadowlands is not such a bad deal.

Finally, if BigEast teams take care of business against the Irish in these upcoming series....the notion that Irish Football is 'better' than than the BigEast goes out the window. Tradition doesn't win you games...which to date has been the only thing ND has had to hang their hats on.

If the BE teams dominate these games would ND want to schedule more?

....I don't know if they would want to schedule more, but it would perhaps make them reconsider the conference affiliation options, where they either join the BigEast or the Big10 and create an opportunity to seamlessly add another full member under the current configuration.

BTW, if Notre Dame keeps losing they are not going to be able to continue to keep dictating terms when playing teams across the country, not just the BigEast.

Cyber
We could beat Notre dame 300 straight times and they would still not join the BE.
It is time for everyone to realize that there is a higher cance of the BE getting Penn state, Maryland, and BC to all join at the same time than ND. and those odds are so low you need an electron microscope to see them.

templefootballfan Wrote:Briliant move by SYC, inseason bowl game, season tickets will increase, gets NYC area into the program as matter fact NY state will show more intrest in SYC program.
Didn't any you guys take bussiness or marketing when you went to college, this is what they teach.
Yeah one game a yr in Meadowlands would not hurt, play Penn St or USC there

Do you believe the stuff you type or do you just like to disagree with every opinon on this board at all times for fun?

There can be no doubt, if this 5-5 series is true, that Syracuse will receive a lot of exposure from this game and I suspect be quite rewarding financially. My question is home many people does the dome hold versus playing at the Meadowlands? Just curious.

Cubanbull Wrote:Cyber
We could beat Notre dame 300 straight times and they would still not join the BE.
It is time for everyone to realize that there is a higher chance of the BE getting Penn state, Maryland, and BC to all join at the same time than ND. and those odds are so low you need an electron microscope to see them.

If Notre Dame continues to flop on the field, they are not going to be able to continue enjoying the perks of being an independent. There are too many programs vying for attention and limited resources nowadays for them to continue to get undeserved preferential treatment. This was witnessed in the last BCS contract where their dollars went down as compared to the previous deal. Eventually the BigEast is going to be strong enough to tell Notre Dame to get lost, or....if the 'big split' we keep talking about ever happens, I doubt the new spinoff football conference is going to allow ND to piggyback on our bowl game affiliations. If that happens, ND is forced to either try and make a BCS game as an indy or join a conference, either the Big10 or the 'new' BigEast. Notre Dame may not want to ever let go of their indy status, but market forces could force them to eventually make a decision.

BTW....I will never say never when it comes to college football. IF you would have asked most college football fans back in 1997 if they could imagine a scenario where a start-up USF team who was playing teams like Cumberland just 8 years ago, could be ranked #2 in their 11th year....most people would have said, "no way....or NEVER!"

In football, any deal with Notre Dame is a bad deal. I say make 'em join a conference before they get any more special treatment.