Searchable Database:

http://blog.al.com/bn/2008/02/show_me_th...n_i_a.html

Includes:
A-10 BB
A-10 FB
ACC
BE
Big 10
Big 12
CUSA
MAC
MWC
Pac 10
SEC
Sun Belt
WAC

Information in the database is from the most recent 990 tax statements filed by the conferences as tax-exempt organizations. All of the most recent data came from 2006, except for the Mid-American Conference (2004) and the Western Athletic Conference (2007).

For example, here are teh results for the Big East:

Conference
BIG EAST

Income
Postseason tournaments $34,201,473
Television and radio rights $19,225,441
NCAA grants-in-aid $8,646,439
Big East tournaments $5,903,842
Entry and exit fees $4,100,000
Corporate sponsors $1,478,673
Licensing revenue $131,362

Expenses
Payments to members $62,892,992
Conference championships $3,146,338
Postseason championships $618,362
NCAA grants $606,649
Public relations $454,474
Officiating $398,411
Start-up equipment for replay $249,421
Women’s basketball broadcast $242,844
Insurance $126,726
NCAA compliance $117,604
Maintenance $108,412

Revenue Split
West Virginia $8,247,924
Louisville $6,448,756
Rutgers $6,280,475
Connecticut $6,008,730
Pittsburgh $5,426,131
Syracuse $5,316,701
South Florida $5,040,814
Cincinnati $3,971,254
* Villanova $2,655,230
* Notre Dame $2,548,390
* Georgetown $2,290,426
* St. John’s $1,909,000
* Seton Hall $1,887,533
* Providence $1,764,253
* DePaul $1,551,353
* Marquette $1,546,022
Total $62,892,992
Average $3,930,812
* Schools that don’t play football in the Big East

CommissionerComp
Mike Tranghese
Compensation $415,000
Benefit plans and deferred compensation $53,446
Total $468,446

Data isn't complete or accurate. Look at the Mountain West numbers. Then, go to NCAA.org and look at the numbers the NCAA gives the MWC. Multi-million dollar difference between the NCAA's numbers and those in the Alabama paper. If they are so far off on one conference, can you trust the other numbers?

the MWC works differently than other conferences from what i understand. the only money they split is the money from TV revenues.....the individual schools keep whatever they make from bowl games and NCAA credits instead of putting it in a master fund to split with everyone.

That's not true. We split the bowl money and basketball money. That link is out of Birmingham, and it looks like another CUSA attempt to make it look like they're better than the MWC.

I don't trust any of the information out of that link.

Cowboy Junky Wrote:That's not true. We split the bowl money and basketball money. That link is out of Birmingham, and it looks like another CUSA attempt to make it look like they're better than the MWC.

I don't trust any of the information out of that link.

Hoquista Wrote:Searchable Database:

http://blog.al.com/bn/2008/02/show_me_th...n_i_a.html

Information in the database is from the most recent 990 tax statements filed by the conferences as tax-exempt organizations. All of the most recent data came from 2006, except for the Mid-American Conference (2004) and the Western Athletic Conference (2007).

For example, here are the results for the Big East:

Conference
BIG EAST

Income
Postseason tournaments $34,201,473
Television and radio rights $19,225,441
NCAA grants-in-aid $8,646,439
Big East tournaments $5,903,842
Entry and exit fees $4,100,000
Corporate sponsors $1,478,673
Licensing revenue $131,362

Expenses
Payments to members $62,892,992
Conference championships $3,146,338
Postseason championships $618,362
NCAA grants $606,649
Public relations $454,474
Officiating $398,411
Start-up equipment for replay $249,421
Women’s basketball broadcast $242,844
Insurance $126,726
NCAA compliance $117,604
Maintenance $108,412

Revenue Split
West Virginia $8,247,924
Louisville $6,448,756
Rutgers $6,280,475
Connecticut $6,008,730
Pittsburgh $5,426,131
Syracuse $5,316,701
South Florida $5,040,814
Cincinnati $3,971,254
* Villanova $2,655,230

* Georgetown $2,290,426
* St. John’s $1,909,000
* Seton Hall $1,887,533
* Providence $1,764,253
* DePaul $1,551,353
* Marquette $1,546,022
Total $62,892,992
Average $3,930,812
* Schools that don’t play football in the Big East

CommissionerComp
Mike Tranghese
Compensation $415,000
Benefit plans and deferred compensation $53,446
Total $468,446

Hail Hoquista!

Great link. Thanks.

I'll let the fans of the non-auto-bid BCS conferences worry about its accuracy in terms of their conferences, but I've been following the major conferences since like 2001 and it is pretty consistent with past years in terms of the spread of dollars - surprised that the ACC held onto the lead as a 12-team conference - but there is just such a HUGE discrepancy between their bb tv monies and the other conferences - that it makes up for a lesser discrepancy in football TV monies.

I do wish all conferences would break down their items like the ACC does.

Thanks again.

Now I'm going to take this reply into another direction:

Notre Dame

$2,548,390 (BE monies)
$4,500,000 (BCS monies as at-large team)/ $1,000,000 when not
$9,500,000 (NBC TV contract)

Total - $16,548,390 / $13,048,390 (worse case no bowl game like this year)

$10,853,810 - Average Conference Revenue of an ACC team
$10,710,900 - Average Conference Revenue of a Big 10 team
$10,168,997 - Average Conference Revenue of an SEC team

So, in a year in which ND makes the BCS, the gap between them and the power conference teams is between $5.7 and $6.4 million. And worse case scenario (no Bowl game whatsoever), the gap is between $2.2 and $2.9 million.

As we all know and is shown by the above, there is no incentive for ND to join a conference under this paradigm.

However, this current year, the Big 10 is guaranteed $6.1 million from their not quite so successful BTN launch. Had that amount started last year:

$16,810,900 - Average Conference Revenue of a Big 10 team.

That figure results in ND actually being slightly behind EVERY single B10 team in the best case scenario and $3.8 million behind in the worse case scenario.

In another thread, a linked article states that the eventual guaranteed revenue from the BTN will bring in an additional $10 million per team as is, which means if that were in effect last year -

$20,710,900 - Average Conference Revenue of a Big 10 team

In this case the gap between EVERY single Big 10 team and ND is $4.2 million in a best case scenario and $7.7 million in a worse case scenario.

We are talking about revenue gaps that are wider than the current gaps between Big East football teams and the three power conferences.

So, will ND recognize where the landscape is heading and attempt to turn things around to its best advantage? Or will it simply acquiesce to that landscape and join the Big Ten?

Cheers,
Neil

and thats the main reason that the Big10 will not add another team unless is Notre Dame. If ND ever sees the light and joins a conference it will be the Big10. That conference is willing to wait it out because their increase would be greaterwith ND than with anyoneelse. All the posturing from Big10 leader was to start pushing ND into a decsion.
Is time for the Big East leaders to realize that ND will not be joining as a football member ever.

Cubanbull Wrote:and thats the main reason that the Big10 will not add another team unless is Notre Dame. If ND ever sees the light and joins a conference it will be the Big10. That conference is willing to wait it out because their increase would be greaterwith ND than with anyoneelse. All the posturing from Big10 leader was to start pushing ND into a decsion.
Is time for the Big East leaders to realize that ND will not be joining as a football member ever.

That certainly is one approach.

I'd prefer more out-of-the-box thinking, but that is unlikely.

Cheers,
Neil

Notre Dame is going to do what favors Notre Dame. They always have. They always will.

The BEast should tell Notre Dame to get lost if they won't commit for all sports. I've always hated this hybrid. It's merely been expedient for the Mountaineers to be in The BEast. There's nothing else. WVU has always worked toward an all-sports conference in the east. At one time or another, one of the major football powers in the east destroyed it for reasons that were purely selfish.

And that attitude hasn't changed any over the years. That's why The BEast got raided by the ACC. It's why all the drama still exists around the conference.

UC should make a jump this year with their 3rd place finish in football.