I haven't been to rivals for a while but wow, it is one sad bunch. All they do is mock the big east, wishing every second they were in the ACC. You'd think in 4 years that they'd get over it but man they are a pathetic bunch.

Just curious, Cuse posters, is the general opinion of Cuse fans like that rivals board cause I don't get that vibe from you guys. Or are you guys the exception. Cause if you guys are the exception then I can see why Cuse is falling apart. Its hard to build back up with fans that negative.

Yeah, cuz the ACC is so much better than the Big East is. Sure.

I don't get those people.

ccbfan Wrote:I haven't been to rivals for a while but wow, it is one sad bunch. All they do is mock the big east, wishing every second they were in the ACC. You'd think in 4 years that they'd get over it but man they are a pathetic bunch.

Just curious, Cuse posters, is the general opinion of Cuse fans like that rivals board cause I don't get that vibe from you guys. Or are you guys the exception. Cause if you guys are the exception then I can see why Cuse is falling apart. Its hard to build back up with fans that negative.

As has been stated here many times before, there are only a fraction of Cuse fans on rivals as compared to Scout. And they are for the most part a bunch of delusional idiots.

I live in Rochester, and there are about as many Cuse fans here as there are in Syracuse. I honestly dont know of any Cuse fans that want SU in the ACC. Even during the raid, I only knew of maybe a couple that was somewhat excited about the Acc. But even those folks thought it was a good idea only because they thought that the BE was going to crash and burn.

The folks at Rivals do not represent the majority of BE fans. I would say they are a smal minority. All the BE fans that I know are ecstatic about the way things turned out for the BE. But disappointed that Cuse is not pulling its weight in fb.

The Rivals board I believe is ran by a Boston College fan. I never go to the Syracuse Rivals board.

The Cuse Rival board are a sad bunch. I have not been there for a long time. Is that guy ArnoldZak is still there? Those guys have nothing nice to say.

The few Cuse friends (my very good friend is a one) I have are glad to stay in the BE. The BCU fans are the only ones I know (at least on the Internet board) stating the move to the ACC was the greatest thing even though most of the ACC don't think much of BCU other than the 12th team required to get a championship. Cuse belongs in the BE just like UCONN and RU.

CatsClaw Wrote:The Rivals board I believe is ran by a Boston College fan. I never go to the Syracuse Rivals board.

i always found it odd the moderators let that board deterioate like it has. you basically have three elitist a-holes circle jerking over the demise of the big east and hurling insults, and a bunch of fans from other teams trying to rile them up, it's pretty sad scene and like cuseroc said is not indicative of most true cuse fans.

Thats good to hear.

We should have a stickied topic of all the main boards for the Big East teams.

Sometimes I like going to other boards to check out whats happening to big east teams.

ccbfan Wrote:Thats good to hear.

We should have a stickied topic of all the main boards for the Big East teams.

Sometimes I like going to other boards to check out whats happening to big east teams.

Yeah, unfortunately that board is dead. If you go to another board you're better off going to the scout board, which is a strong Syracuse board.

That's a good idea, I don't really know where the main Cincy board is (here?). The main UConn and Cuse board are affiliated and founded by the same group of people, they went to scout from rivals a couple of years ago. Mainly just malcontents stayed behind on both boards.

The only real-life BC fans I know don't care about moving to the ACC, it seems to be more of an internet bragging rights thing. Having invested so much smack talking about leaving the BE behind, the internet BC fans can never admit it might not work out.

1) All "normal" SU fans are at the Scout message board, which has a moderator.

2) With SU fans relocating to Scout, a couple of prolific posters, traumatised by the ACC invitation to VT instead of SU, took over the Rivals board.

The last several thousand posts by these "fanatics" essentially say they don't like the Big East.

They really are fanatics insulting everyone who doesn't share their view of the universe.

Fanatics attract fanatics, and many posters there are "basket cases".

The moderators at Rivals apparently don't pull the plug since the extreme views presented generate at least some posts.

TRest Wrote:That's a good idea, I don't really know where the main Cincy board is (here?). The main UConn and Cuse board are affiliated and founded by the same group of people, they went to scout from rivals a couple of years ago. Mainly just malcontents stayed behind on both boards.

The only real-life BC fans I know don't care about moving to the ACC, it seems to be more of an internet bragging rights thing. Having invested so much smack talking about leaving the BE behind, the internet BC fans can never admit it might not work out.

That is correct-the UConn and Cuse Boards are sister sites...there is much inbreeding and nepotism among the administrators/moderators but the two boards have spirited debates all the time

Basically when Rivals was the 398 lbs gorilla for Cuse and UConn the moderators and fans were getting sick of Mike Farrell's constant pimping and acting as a booster for BC. So in the middle of the night ala The Baltimore Colts everyone left in a covert ops to the Scout Site and never looked in the rearview mirror.

A few malcontents and social rejects stayed behind. The board has no real moderator and it is a slosh Pit with some Rutgers fans having a field day ripping the Cuse and ArchboldZak and his two buddies playing the broken record over and over. If you visit I suggest hand sanitizer when leaving. I might of made 10 posts there in the last year but it is tiring to deal with the children.

The other horrible Cuse board is at the newspaper site.

BTW, the scout board for Syracuse (at least) has great insider knowledge and many excellent resources of info: Orangeyes' daily links are well know around the Big East and under the dropdown boxes are numerous fan sites and helpful aides...i.e. like my tailgate website (shameless promotion) LOL

But you don't have Pudge.

TexanMark Wrote:

TRest Wrote:That's a good idea, I don't really know where the main Cincy board is (here?). The main UConn and Cuse board are affiliated and founded by the same group of people, they went to scout from rivals a couple of years ago. Mainly just malcontents stayed behind on both boards.

The only real-life BC fans I know don't care about moving to the ACC, it seems to be more of an internet bragging rights thing. Having invested so much smack talking about leaving the BE behind, the internet BC fans can never admit it might not work out.

That is correct-the UConn and Cuse Boards are sister sites...there is much inbreeding and nepotism among the administrators/moderators but the two boards have spirited debates all the time

Basically when Rivals was the 398 lbs gorilla for Cuse and UConn the moderators and fans were getting sick of Mike Farrell's constant pimping and acting as a booster for BC. So in the middle of the night ala The Baltimore Colts everyone left in a covert ops to the Scout Site and never looked in the rearview mirror.

A few malcontents and social rejects stayed behind. The board has no real moderator and it is a slosh Pit with some Rutgers fans having a field day ripping the Cuse and ArchboldZak and his two buddies playing the broken record over and over. If you visit I suggest hand sanitizer when leaving. I might of made 10 posts there in the last year but it is tiring to deal with the children.

The other horrible Cuse board is at the newspaper site.

BTW, the scout board for Syracuse (at least) has great insider knowledge and many excellent resources of info: Orangeyes' daily links are well know around the Big East and under the dropdown boxes are numerous fan sites and helpful aides...i.e. like my tailgate website (shameless promotion) LOL

The Rutgers fans over there love ripping the Cuse I think for most of them basically to PO ArchboldZak and crew. I tend to stay away from it as I know what most of the Cuse are really about.

I'm Cuse alumni. (Don't ask about the frogman moniker).
I was against the ACC raid from day one. I felt Syracuse had no business in a southern conference as did BB Coach Boeheim. I hate the ACC- their tactics brought nothing but disrespect to themselves as a conference. The ACC presidents who voted for the raid all showed how classless they are at heart. Coach K was against it- I respect him for that- but in the end he supported his conference's decision.
Miami- Good riddance. I got smacked down before for saying this but I'll say it again anyways- USF will be better than Miami. What- I don't hear the laughter this time. USF will soon be the second best team in Florida and that will leave their coach Leavitt no where near satisfied.
He started that program and he wants to finish what he started. I think he'll get what he wants and he's now openly talking about championships.
The BIG East is best. Syracuse, a charter, belongs in the Big East. The success of other teams in the BEast right now, only helps Syr in the long run. We can recruit into a legitimate BCS conference because of the success of Rutgers, USF, WVU, UofL and Cinn. UCONN is better off because of these teams also. It is easier for them to build their program.
OVer the years Syracuse football has enjoyed good times. Now we have to suffer through bad times. The good times passed and these bad times will also pass. It's no big deal. This season is a bust-- but unless you are a current student at Syracuse, there's not need to dwell on it. It's not the end of the world.
Over the years I learned to appreciate the conference- I hated UCONN and G.town with a passion once. As a former New Yorker I used to love the Knicks but hated Patrick Ewing just because he went to G.Town. Now, Allen Iverson is my favorite player.
I can't speak for all Syracuse fans but I feel we are in the conference we help found and our football will only improve from where it is today. If we do the work, we'll be fine. Because of the success of our conferencemates, we have the opportunity to rebuild and improve our football program.

We may not be great, but we will be very good again.

frogman Wrote:I'm Cuse alumni. (Don't ask about the frogman moniker).
I was against the ACC raid from day one. I felt Syracuse had no business in a southern conference as did BB Coach Boeheim. I hate the ACC- their tactics brought nothing but disrespect to themselves as a conference. The ACC presidents who voted for the raid all showed how classless they are at heart. Coach K was against it- I respect him for that- but in the end he supported his conference's decision.
Miami- Good riddance. I got smacked down before for saying this but I'll say it again anyways- USF will be better than Miami. What- I don't hear the laughter this time. USF will soon be the second best team in Florida and that will leave their coach Leavitt no where near satisfied.
He started that program and he wants to finish what he started. I think he'll get what he wants and he's now openly talking about championships.
The BIG East is best. Syracuse, a charter, belongs in the Big East. The success of other teams in the BEast right now, only helps Syr in the long run. We can recruit into a legitimate BCS conference because of the success of Rutgers, USF, WVU, UofL and Cinn. UCONN is better off because of these teams also. It is easier for them to build their program.
OVer the years Syracuse football has enjoyed good times. Now we have to suffer through bad times. The good times passed and these bad times will also pass. It's no big deal. This season is a bust-- but unless you are a current student at Syracuse, there's not need to dwell on it. It's not the end of the world.
Over the years I learned to appreciate the conference- I hated UCONN and G.town with a passion once. As a former New Yorker I used to love the Knicks but hated Patrick Ewing just because he went to G.Town. Now, Allen Iverson is my favorite player.
I can't speak for all Syracuse fans but I feel we are in the conference we help found and our football will only improve from where it is today. If we do the work, we'll be fine. Because of the success of our conferencemates, we have the opportunity to rebuild and improve our football program.

We may not be great, but we will be very good again.

Nice post frogman. I agree 100% with what you said.
I also did not care about the BE conference 20 years ago. It was all about Syracuse. But once the BE football confernce started, I saw the bigger picture. This is the only conference that I wanted to be in. And during the raid, I was sick with the thought of Syracuse being in a conference with Duke and UNC.

For me if the Big Ten ever came calling I wouldn't want to go period. There are reasons for this we're the original Eastern Football School so we belong in a conference with similarly Eastern institutions not a bunch of overrated Midwestern programs just like their red-headed Eastern stepchild Penn State belongs back here. When Rutgers was down in the dumps as one of the worst football programs in America who didn't turn their back on us, the Big East didn't they kept us around, propped us up, and allowed us to grow. Grow we have, we're tasting our most successful stretch in the history of the program including 1869. This is where our rivalries are and will be born. Before I went to Rutgers I coulda cared less about college sports. Now I can't get enough of them. College Football has grown into my favorite sport second only to Baseball and my love of the New York Mets. And its my being a diehard Mets fan that has allowed me to be the diehard Rutgers and Big East fan I am now. I had to believe that Rutgers would be where its at and where its going to go and I had to believe that the Big East could become the best conference in America. Tug McGraw put it best after all, Ya Gotta Believe. I have a feeling that this season is going to be something special for Rutgers and for the Big East. And if it weren't for the Cuse, UConn, Pitt, and perhaps most especially WVU not turning their back on Rutgers it wouldn't be possible. For most Rutgers and WVU fans I think there's a bond that started in 70s. Who's fans are always the first to congratulate each other on a win or wish each other good luck on Rivals its WVU and Rutgers. Sure we're rivals and we'll go back and forth but the two schools athletic success has been tied together for decades now and the Big East didn't want us as full members in 1991 and the only reason we were able to get in 1995 was because the FB playing members allowed ND in and we had to go as a package. For many Rutgers fans not playing in the same conference as WVU is unthinkable and UConn and Syracuse are just about there, Pitt, USF, Cincy, and Louisville are working their way into there too. The core of this conference has been established and it runs through New England, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Cincinnati, Louisville, and Tampa.

Agreed. Most fans are happy with the Big East and want to see it grow stronger. 'Cuse was a founder of the league and it holds a special place in many fans' and alumi's hearts.

I think a lot of what you see is frustration. The school has had such a proud tradition of winning and success and with the football program in disarray and the basketball program getting a little worse each year since the championship (though they're on the way back up), frustration has mounted for a lot of fans.

I think its a very small margin of fans who wish the school was in the Big East. I am the biggest Big East fan and wouldn't want to see any of the schools we have now leave for any other league...in fact I'd love to see us bring BC back, as they're one of our best rivals.

PS - Very well said, frogman. As a 'Cuse alum, as well, I couldn't agree more with what you said. I just wish we could have these great schools we have now coupled with the longtime traditional rivals of SU, Pitt, WVU and Rutgers: Penn State and BC.

I'd love to see a strong eastern conference with all the traditional eastern powers that used to compete for the Lambert Trophy, given to Penn State annually, along with USF, UofL, and UC. Penn State would actually have to fight like hell for the Lambert Trophy now, and they'd probably lose. As it is now, the Lambert is a meaningless trophy. That is a pity.

bitcruncher Wrote:I'd love to see a strong eastern conference with all the traditional eastern powers that used to compete for the Lambert Trophy, given to Penn State annually, along with USF, UofL, and UC. Penn State would actually have to fight like hell for the Lambert Trophy now, and they'd probably lose. As it is now, the Lambert is a meaningless trophy. That is a pity.

If there's two things Greg Schiano has taught me they've been to have hope and to believe it can be done. I believe that this conference will come about sooner or later.

Interesting to see what Big East decides to do in the future. Right now they are able to sit with 8 teams and 16 in basketball and enjoy very good results on and off the field.