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Article: BTN, Comcast standoff continues
Big Ten Network, Comcast standoff continues
Saturday, August 18, 2007

By Ron Musselman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



The Big Ten Network has launched an all-out, last-minute blitz against cable giant Comcast.

Two weeks from today, the fledgling network is scheduled to broadcast its first football games.

As is stands now, those who live in the Pittsburgh region will not be able to see the Nittany Lions' season opener at home Sept. 1 against Florida International.

"It's really unfortunate, but we've not built any contingency plans for the early part of the football season," said Kevin Weiberg, vice president of university planning for the Big Ten Network. "We won't be able to do something at the last minute to make that game available here."

Comcast, which has 5.7 million customers in eight states with Big Ten schools, has been haggling with the network for months.

The network wants to be included on the expanded basic cable package. But Comcast has rejected that offer, wanting instead to place it on a sports tier.

The Big Ten Network, which involves a 20-year partnership with Fox, is asking Comcast to pay $1.10 per customer per month for its programming, which could force the cable company to raise its monthly rates.

If Comcast placed the Big Ten Network on the sports tier, the monthly rate would range between $5 and $6 per customer, but also would include the NFL Network, CSTV, Fox college sports channels and NBA TV.

Last year, the Penn State-Akron game drew a 5.4 rating in the Pittsburgh area -- which means that 95.6 percent of the market did not watch it -- while Penn State-Wisconsin pulled only a 3.7.

Comcast has not wavered in its stance from the beginning.

"We want to bring the Big Ten Network to customers in the best and fairest way, which would be to offer it on a digital sports tier in the eight-state Big Ten region and as an out-of-market subscription service for customers in other markets," said Jody Doherty, spokesperson for Comcast, Three Rivers Region.

That way, she said, Big Ten fans would be able to subscribe to it, while rates would not be raised for the rest of its customers .

Mr. Weiberg, former commissioner of the Big 12, and Penn State athletic director Tim Curley toured Central and Western Pennsylvania the past two days, urging Nittany Lions' fans to turn up the pressure on Comcast to add the network to the expanded basic tier.

"Penn State's had a rich history and tradition of our games being on television," Mr. Curley said. "Certainly we want a lot of people to be able to see our games. We're sold out for all of our home games this year, so tickets are in short supply. So there will be a lot of people that want to watch them."

Unless the Big Ten Network and Comcast strike a deal in the next two weeks, only those with DirecTV in Western Pennsylvania will be able to watch Penn State's opener.

Mr. Curley said that in addition to Florida International, three additional games -- with Buffalo, Iowa and Purdue -- could be affected if the impasse with Comcast drags on all season. All other Penn State games will be broadcast on ESPN, ESPN2 or ABC.

"In the last five years, we've probably had three games that haven't been on some form of television," he said. "The majority of Pennsylvania falls under Comcast and most would get shut out if we don't get a deal."

The Big Ten Network, set to debut Aug. 30, will televise between 350 and 400 events during its inaugural year. The schedule includes at least 35 football games, more than 100 men's basketball games, women's basketball and more than 170 other sports events.

The network also plans to air more than 600 hours of Penn State programming. The majority of Penn State's 29 varsity sports, if not all, will be featured in 2007-08, in addition to at least 60 hours of institutional, non-athletic programming.

"Negotiations have been slow with the big cable companies," Mr. Weiberg said. "I would say Comcast has been one of the slowest. Sort of the message has been, `Sports tier or nothing.' We really believe that in this region, the product deserves to be on expanded basic cable. That's been the major sticking point. We've indicated that there's some flexibility on price if we could crack through in the discussions relative to expanded basic.

"We're offering the channel in the region for about $1 a month per subscriber. Outside the region, we're offering it for a dime. So for Comcast, the blended national rate of this channel is really about 30 cents when you consider it across their subscribers nationally.

"ESPN charges well over $3 per subscriber nationally. There's no comparison. This network is maybe 10 percent of the national rate of an ESPN event. At $1.10 a subscriber, that's well below what Comcast charges for its own regional sports networks."
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RE: Article: BTN, Comcast standoff continues
Does anyone know how the deals with the other cable companies going for the Big Ten?
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I don't know how conference expansion is going to fix that mess unless it's a big name like Texas, Nebraska or Notre Dame. Adding a new market does nothing when they're having a hard time getting it in their current markets like Pennsylvania and Ohio.
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Cable companies stink with customers.When the yankees moved to the YES network for broadcasting their games they played with Cablevision for a long time.
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tigersharktwo Wrote:Cable companies stink with customers.When the yankees moved to the YES network for broadcasting their games they played with Cablevision for a long time.

Cablevision almost pulled the same business with the Mets and SNY last year. Fortunately they wised up in time for the regular season.
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CatsClaw Wrote:I don't know how conference expansion is going to fix that mess unless it's a big name like Texas, Nebraska or Notre Dame. Adding a new market does nothing when they're having a hard time getting it in their current markets like Pennsylvania and Ohio.


PA is a strange animal. Pittsburgh and Western PA have always been anti PSU and thus anti Big 10 (PSU alums excluded of course). I was very suprised to see how poorly PSU does ratings wise in the Pittsburgh market. After reading that I'm starting to think West Virginia may get higher ratings in the Steel City.

In basketball, PSU and the Big 10 are almost non entity in PA. If I remember right PSU had trouble stopping its flagship radio station from going to Penguins games early during hoops season. Plus, the BE has two good and popular teams in the major markets. Syracuse has a nice fan base in northern PA because of Gerry McNamara. I visted some friends north of Scranton a few yrs ago and was shocked at how many SU fans around there were

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maybe psu should start cheering 'WE WANT.....COMCAST' at their games....
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Jim Delaney seems to be an arrogant prick who tries to bully everyone. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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3601 Wrote:Jim Delaney seems to be an arrogant prick who tries to bully everyone. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

We can agree on something! 03-lmfao Seriously, I completely agree with you. Say what you want about our old friend Mike Slive, at least he hasn't personally said or did something that ticks us since joining the SEC. This Delaney guy is as annoying as all heck.
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CatsClaw Wrote:
3601 Wrote:Jim Delaney seems to be an arrogant prick who tries to bully everyone. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

We can agree on something! 03-lmfao Seriously, I completely agree with you. Say what you want about our old friend Mike Slive, at least he hasn't personally said or did something that ticks us since joining the SEC. This Delaney guy is as annoying as all heck.

I knew we could agree on something. It simply took a few thousand posts.
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Why would NON PSU fans in pitt be forced to pay an extra $1.10 per month to see PSU and the rest of big10.
I would be pised off if that was passed along to everyone.
By the way at $1.10 per month that almost 72 mill they are asking from Comcast
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I think Comcast's offer of a Digital Sports Tier is appropriate for once I completely agree with the cable company. I have no problem with the BTN charging $1.10 a month but let it be an add-on package/tier/channel so that you only get it if you want it.
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Frankly the biggest surprise in all this should've been how quickly the satellite companies agreed to the Big Ten's terms, yet that never gets raised. 03-confused
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GunnerFan Wrote:Frankly the biggest surprise in all this should've been how quickly the satellite companies agreed to the Big Ten's terms, yet that never gets raised. 03-confused

DirecTv is a part owner in the network. Dish hasn't picked it up yet and has filed suit to declare it a regional sports network so they can take it to arbitration.

Neither Satellite company has picked up the MTN network and it is partly owned by Comcast. This is just another example of folks pimping their own brand.
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It really seems like the Big10 Network is a little worried about consumer interest in their product. It's clear the Big10 wants to force (and charge a fee for) their network into the homes of consumers who may never watch it. Why add it to basic and charge every Comcast customer?
It would be a disservice to Comcast customers to allow the BTN to have its way.
I wonder what the deal with Dish TV looks like for the Big 10. I doubt it's on any basic package there.
Seems like Delaney knows that if given a choice, maybe fans won't be jumping on the Big10 Network.

Seems like you get a distribution deal in place with your hosting companies before you publically announce the network or talk about how much money you're going to be pulling in. It's a little late in the game for the BTN to haggling over delivery of their product when they launch in two weeks.
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frogman Wrote:Why add it to basic and charge every Comcast customer?

They want it on the basic cable package because that way they can charge more to advertisers for commercials. It's all about the benjamins.
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But that's crazy.
They would say to advertisers that they are in, say, 20 million homes but the truth is that only 8 million homes are watching them. The other 12 million didn't ask for, and have no interest in, the BTN.
And as a Comcast customer, my rate goes up and I get the BTN. But what if I don't care about the BTN. Why do I have to pay to have it? I rather have another food network. But I have to have the BTN just so Big 10 schools can make more money.
COmcast is right. The BTN should not be allowed to put this new product in places it's not going to be used.

Am I reading this situation right?
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