They're doing a preview for the upcoming season and Lee Corso goes off on a rant about the Big Ten needing to catch up to the 21st century and pushing for them to add Missouri as the 12th team and play a championship game. That was kind of surreal.

I could care less what Lee Corso says. He's usually wrong.

bitcruncher Wrote:I could care less what Lee Corso says. He's usually wrong.

That is completely true, can't argue with that. But I found it kind of shocking that someone on television, especially ESPN, openly talked about not only adding a team to a conference, but one that has been rumored to go to the Big Ten for years.

I never quite understood the value of Missouri, as far as the B11 is concerned. They're better off waiting out ND.

Cat's Claw, did they say anything interesting about the Big East? I thought I heard Ray Rice was supposed to be on the show


Jackson

BJUnklFkr Wrote:I never quite understood the value of Missouri, as far as the B11 is concerned. They're better off waiting out ND.

Depends on how long they have to wait. At this point, it looks like ND has no interest in any conference affiliation beyond the present symbiotic relationship with the BE. Missouri would be a nice fit for the Big 10 in a lot of ways.

If TV markets are as big a deal as everyone says, then Missouri is a sound choice. You get St. Louis and Kansas City.

MichaelSavage Wrote:If TV markets are as big a deal as everyone says, then Missouri is a sound choice. You get St. Louis and Kansas City.

I can only hope the Big Ten is stupid enough to take Missouri.

I'll be jumping for joy on that day.

Cheers,
Neil

Gray Avenger Wrote:

BJUnklFkr Wrote:I never quite understood the value of Missouri, as far as the B11 is concerned. They're better off waiting out ND.

Depends on how long they have to wait. At this point, it looks like ND has no interest in any conference affiliation beyond the present symbiotic relationship with the BE. Missouri would be a nice fit for the Big 10 in a lot of ways.

Before Mizzou can join the Big 10 they'll need to pay their exit fee from the Big 12 and pay entrance fee into the Big 10. That may dissuade them from switching leagues.

Also, Missouri hasn't been too competitive in the Big 12. Do you really think they'll move over and be able to win as many games as they did in the Big 12? I don't think so. Big 10 competition is much stiffer than they face presently.

They'd fit regionally. But will they wish to migrate?

bitcruncher Wrote:

Gray Avenger Wrote:

BJUnklFkr Wrote:I never quite understood the value of Missouri, as far as the B11 is concerned. They're better off waiting out ND.

Depends on how long they have to wait. At this point, it looks like ND has no interest in any conference affiliation beyond the present symbiotic relationship with the BE. Missouri would be a nice fit for the Big 10 in a lot of ways.

Before Mizzou can join the Big 10 they'll need to pay their exit fee from the Big 12 and pay entrance fee into the Big 10. That may dissuade them from switching leagues.

Also, Missouri hasn't been too competitive in the Big 12. Do you really think they'll move over and be able to win as many games as they did in the Big 12? I don't think so. Big 10 competition is much stiffer than they face presently.

They'd fit regionally. But will they wish to migrate?

Exit fees will remain a concern, but I doubt entry fees will with the changing college athletic landscape.

Big Ten to Mizzou "You bring with you approximately 11 million in revenue a year for our BTN, so we will take your entry fee from that pot of money".

Cheers,
Neil

omnicarrier Wrote:

MichaelSavage Wrote:If TV markets are as big a deal as everyone says, then Missouri is a sound choice. You get St. Louis and Kansas City.

I can only hope the Big Ten is stupid enough to take Missouri.

I'll be jumping for joy on that day.

Cheers,
Neil

If the numbers worked out, why would it be a stupid choice?

The only stupidity would be on the part of Mizzou. They'd be relegating themselves to second class citizenship in the Big 10.

Jackson1011 Wrote:Cat's Claw, did they say anything interesting about the Big East? I thought I heard Ray Rice was supposed to be on the show


Jackson

Not really, they didn't talk about alot of stuff because they only had a half hour unfortunately. They did hype Ray Rice as a Heisman candidate. The Big East has been getting heavily praised as having national title contenders and numerous Heisman candidates (Rice, Pat White, Steve Slaton and Brian Brohm).

omnicarrier Wrote:

MichaelSavage Wrote:If TV markets are as big a deal as everyone says, then Missouri is a sound choice. You get St. Louis and Kansas City.

I can only hope the Big Ten is stupid enough to take Missouri.

I'll be jumping for joy on that day.

Cheers,
Neil

Me too, it would be perfect and end all of this conference expansion talk.

Someone mentioned Missouri going to the Big Ten as being stupid but I disagree. They fit in very well with the Big Ten. They're essentially second class citizens in the Big 12 right now anyway. The Big Ten is a midwest conference so Missouri would be at home. I think they're basketball program would improve more in the Big Ten then the Big 12 and they have a built in rivalry with Illinois. Football would be at home as well.

MichaelSavage Wrote:

omnicarrier Wrote:

MichaelSavage Wrote:If TV markets are as big a deal as everyone says, then Missouri is a sound choice. You get St. Louis and Kansas City.

I can only hope the Big Ten is stupid enough to take Missouri.

I'll be jumping for joy on that day.

Cheers,
Neil

If the numbers worked out, why would it be a stupid choice?

And the Lord saith, what does it profit the Evil Empire to gain Missouri and lose Pennsylvania?

The Big Ten has been promising Penn State a rival from day one. They are still waiting, and waiting, and waiting...

Like I said, I can only hope the Big Ten is so stupid as to pick Missouri.

It's a win, win for the Big East. Either the Nits get really, really angry and say "Screw This! We're outta here!" or they roll over and play dead, in which case the Big East doesn't have to worry about losing Rutgers, Pitt, or Syracuse.

Cheers,
Neil

there is no reason for the big 10+1 to do that.. and if u argue they should have to ... then the big 12 will have to add a replacement... and the pac 10 should have to add 2...and the BE should have to add 4.. none of that makes sense unless those conf wish to do so.

If Mizzou went to the Big Televen are you sure they would gain the Kansas City market? KC is only a few miles from Kansas U. Maybe they have a bunch of fans there, though it is another state.

goodknightfl Wrote:there is no reason for the big 10+1 to do that.. and if u argue they should have to ... then the big 12 will have to add a replacement... and the pac 10 should have to add 2...and the BE should have to add 4.. none of that makes sense unless those conf wish to do so.

Clearly the Big Ten is considering doing that because they have been looking at Missouri for several years now. There is no reason that the Pac-10 and Big East should have to do anything, let alone expand to 12.

army56mike Wrote:If Mizzou went to the Big Televen are you sure they would gain the Kansas City market? KC is only a few miles from Kansas U. Maybe they have a bunch of fans there, though it is another state.

Actually the Big Ten already has a strong presence in the Kansas City and St. Louis markets, and Missouri would help lock that down. The Big Ten doesn't want Pitt or Syracuse because they feel they don't need the New York market and Pitt only adds a rival for Penn State, and, to be blunt, the Big Ten couldn't care less if Penn State was given a travel partner. The only reason the Big Ten would add Rutgers is because of academics. But the Big Ten is an arrogant conference, and as good as the above mentioned programs are the Big Ten is only going to add a new midwest market or Notre Dame.

KC is mainly a KU town, but there are enough Mizzou fans for it to prosper. SL, on the other hand, probably much bigger Mizzou presence.