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nate jonesacc Wrote:LOL... Palestinian scum? You're one sick guy.

So burying a 10 year old girl is collateral damage? Shooting babies in the head is a result of others being terrorists? WTF kind of logic is that? :bang:

And... which countries do you want me to prove I've been to?
....and about the innocent Israelis? All they have to do is stop blowing up pizza joints and Israel will follow suit. ...but.....people like arafat, those scumbag hamas, and those pieces of shizzy hezbollah have vowed to kill Israelis until they leave Israel. They don't want peace, they want the destruction of the nation of Israel, PERIOD. Like I said, if these so-called "Peace-Loving" Palestinians can't rein in their radicals, ...............and listen up................they deserve to die. It's Israel or the Palestinians....and Israel has the high moral ground.

Here, I'll tell you something that will REALLY piss you off:

Islam is not, never has been, and never WILL be a peaceful religion. It's a warped concoction using beliefs from other religions that is still wrapped up in the ancient times. You being a liberal and defending a religion that abuses human rights, segregates its masses by religion, persecutes other religions, and treats women like sheep astonishes me. You aren't for human rights.
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.and yes, PALESTINIAN SCUM.

The ones that were dancing in the streets on 9/11 laughing and cheering because we were attacked.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:LOL... Palestinian scum? You're one sick guy.

So burying a 10 year old girl is collateral damage? Shooting babies in the head is a result of others being terrorists? WTF kind of logic is that?  :bang:

And... which countries do you want me to prove I've been to?
....and about the innocent Israelis? All they have to do is stop blowing up pizza joints and Israel will follow suit. ...but.....people like arafat, those scumbag hamas, and those pieces of shizzy hezbollah have vowed to kill Israelis until they leave Israel. They don't want peace, they want the destruction of the nation of Israel, PERIOD. Like I said, if these so-called "Peace-Loving" Palestinians can't rein in their radicals, ...............and listen up................they deserve to die. It's Israel or the Palestinians....and Israel has the high moral ground.

Here, I'll tell you something that will REALLY piss you off:

Islam is not, never has been, and never WILL be a peaceful religion. It's a warped concoction using beliefs from other religions that is still wrapped up in the ancient times. You being a liberal and defending a religion that abuses human rights, segregates its masses by religion, persecutes other religions, and treats women like sheep astonishes me. You aren't for human rights.
I'm not defending Islam... I'm defending a nation of people. I don't consider myself a liberal. In fact, if I ran for political office today, I would run GOP. How are you going to tell people how they feel? They DO want peace. They want freedom from occupation. They want land TO THEMSELVES... no settlements. Period. You can't rein in radicals... It's impossible to stop every terrorist...

Here's the 60 billion dollar question...

IF ISRAEL (FUNDED 10 BILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY BY THE US) CAN'T HONE IN THE RADICAL MUSLIMS, HOW DO YOU EXPECT A BUNCH OF POOR PEOPLE TO DO IT? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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RebelKev Wrote:.and yes, PALESTINIAN SCUM.

The ones that were dancing in the streets on 9/11 laughing and cheering because we were attacked.
source? I believe it happened... just want to see what you read/saw...
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nate jonesacc Wrote:So burying a 10 year old girl is collateral damage?
Nate, were you there watching her be buried alive? Did you see Israeli's burying her in person? Did you ever consider that a collapsed building might be the cause? How can you trust the guy who took the photo?
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Do we not rein in our radicals that pose a threat?


Exactly.


...and I saw the bastards dancing in the streets on the DAY it happened. You may not have remembered......you were 13.
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RebelKev Wrote:Do we not rein in our radicals that pose a threat?


Exactly.


...and I saw the bastards dancing in the streets on the DAY it happened. You may not have remembered......you were 13.
Yes, we do... we CAN... they CAN'T... We have the money, the resource and the possibility of reining in our McVeighs... we are talking about VERY poor people that live in Palestine.
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The people dancing in the street were a) radical extremists and b) happy that it happened not because they are sick people... but because it was bound to happen... and that maybe we would now understand what we've been doing...
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RebelKev Wrote:.and yes, PALESTINIAN SCUM.

The ones that were dancing in the streets on 9/11 laughing and cheering because we were attacked.
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Countries around world offer U.S. condolences
Governments express remorse; thousands of Palestinians celebrate, but Arafat offers sympathy

By BETH GARDINER Associated Press
The Herald-Sun
Wednesday, September 12, 2001
Final Edition
Inside Front Section
Page A17


LONDON - Governments around the world offered condolences to an America that looked more vulnerable than ever after Tuesday's terror attacks, but thousands of Palestinians celebrated in the West Bank and in Lebanese refugee camps.

People on every continent watched in horror as astonishing images of terror in the United States filled their television screens. But in the West Bank town of Nablus, Palestinians cheered and distributed candy to passers-by, and Iraqi television played a patriotic song that began "Down with America!" as it showed the World Trade Center towers collapsing.

Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat offered his sympathy to Americans and said he was horrified by the devastating attacks, which also hit the Pentagon.

Leaders around the world - including most in the Middle East - offered messages of support.

Afghanistan's Taliban rulers condemned the attacks and rejected suggestions that suspected terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden, who has been given asylum in Afghanistan, could be behind them.

"It is premature to level allegations against a person who is not in a position to carry out such attacks," said Abdul Salam Zaeef, the Taliban ambassador in Pakistan. "It was a well-organized plan and Osama has no such facilities."

President Gen. Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan, one of three countries that recognize the Taliban's government, condemned the attacks and called for cooperation to combat the "modern-day evil" of terrorism.

Key indexes sank on world stock markets and many European and Asian airlines canceled flights to the United States and recalled planes already in the air.

Britain and Belgium banned commercial flights over their capitals, and Britain warned its citizens traveling in the United States to beware of possible further attacks. Israel closed its airspace to foreign flights and evacuated staff from diplomatic missions and Jewish institutions around the world.

In the West Bank town of Nablus, about 3,000 people poured into the streets shortly after the attacks began, chanting "God is Great" and handing out candy in a traditional gesture of celebration.

There were no reports of celebrations elsewhere in the West Bank and Gaza.

Sheik Ahmed Yassin, whose Islamic militant Hamas group has carried out a series of suicide bombings in Israel, said he was not interested in exporting such attacks to the United States.

"We are not ready to move our struggle outside the occupied Palestinian land. We are not prepared to open international fronts, however much we criticize the unfair American position," Yassin told reporters in Gaza City.

In Ein el-Hilweh, Lebanon's largest refugee camp, where about 75,000 Palestinians live, revelers fired weapons in the air, witnesses said. Similar celebratory gunfire was heard at the Rashidiyeh camp near the southern city of Tyre.

Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, whom the United States has accused of backing international terrorism, called the attacks "horrifying" and urged Muslim aid groups to offer help "regardless of political considerations or differences between America and the peoples of the world."

Syria's government condemned the attacks and offered condolences to the United States and the American people, the official Syrian Arab News Agency reported. Syria has also been at odds with the United States, which has accused it of backing terrorism.

Iranian President Mohammad Khatami, a moderate who is struggling for power against the country's hard-line Islamic leaders, expressed "deep regret and sympathy with the victims" and said "it is an international duty to try to undermine terrorism."

Many countries beefed up security at American embassies, and President Bush put all American military forces overseas on high alert.

Ordinary citizens offered condolences at American embassies around the world - Norwegians left bouquets of flowers in a park near the U.S. Embassy, Russians placed flowers near the Moscow mission and in Budapest, there were dozens of candles.

In Berlin, hundreds of people marched silently down Unter den Linden boulevard at nightfall to a service at the city's main cathedral to mourn the victims.

NATO called an emergency meeting of its governing council and urged an intensified war against international terrorism. "Our message to those who perpetrated these unspeakable crimes is clear: You will not get away with it," it said.

In New York, the U.N. Security Council condemned the attacks and urged all nations to work to bring the perpetrators to justice.

"It is impossible to fully comprehend the evil that would have conjured up such a cowardly and depraved assault," said Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien.

Russian President Vladimir Putin condemned the attacks and called them "a blatant challenge to humanity."

"This mass terrorism is the new evil in our world today," said British Prime Minister Tony Blair. "It is perpetrated by fanatics who are utterly indifferent to the sanctity of human life."

Queen Elizabeth II said she was watching developments in "growing disbelief and total shock."

Pope John Paul II condemned the "unspeakable horror" and said he was praying for the victims' souls and for their families.

While Iraqi TV appeared to salute the attacks, Modhafar Bashir, a 35-year-old poet watching the news in a Baghdad coffee shop, said he condemned such violence. "The problem is that America has created so many enemies inside and abroad," Bashir said.

China said it was "horrified" and Chinese President Jiang Zemin expressed "grave concern for the safety of Chinese in the U.S."

"This outrageous and vicious act of violence against the United States is unforgivable," said Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.

Arafat offered his condolences to the American people and government. "We are completely shocked. It's unbelievable," he said.

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said, "There can be no doubt that these attacks are deliberate acts of terrorism, carefully planned and coordinated. ... I condemn them utterly."

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak called the attacks "horrible and unimaginable." In Germany, Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder described them as "a declaration of war."

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad Mahathir expressed sadness, but urged the U.S. government not to seek revenge.

"Retaliation will lead to the deaths of many people and will be followed by more counter-strikes," he was quoted as saying.

In the U.S. Caribbean territory of Puerto Rico, people scrambled for news of relatives and friends in New York, where an estimated 2 million Puerto Ricans live.

Groups gathered on the corners of cobblestoned streets in San Juan, clinging to strangers in search of more details.

"Dios mio, have mercy!" exclaimed a whited-haired man, making the sign of the cross as he watched the second tower explode on TV.

Broadcasters around the world broke into programming to show images of the disasters.

"This portends the end of the world," said Ekima Ibass, a civil servant in Congo's capital, Kinshasa. "It could be the beginning of a new world war," Ibass added.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:So burying a 10 year old girl is collateral damage?
Nate, were you there watching her be buried alive? Did you see Israeli's burying her in person? Did you ever consider that a collapsed building might be the cause? How can you trust the guy who took the photo?
Let's see... the man is wearing a uniform... and according the RebelKev... Palestinians don't wear uniforms... the girl is BURIED under sand or some other powdery substance. Does it look like a BUILDING fell on her? No... it looks like someone poured stuff on her.

And I'm taking that from the site I got it from. And I quote "This Palestinian girl was buried alive." If you don't believe it... I'd take that up with the site.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:So burying a 10 year old girl is collateral damage?
Nate, were you there watching her be buried alive? Did you see Israeli's burying her in person? Did you ever consider that a collapsed building might be the cause? How can you trust the guy who took the photo?
Let's see... the man is wearing a uniform... and according the RebelKev... Palestinians don't wear uniforms... the girl is BURIED under sand or some other powdery substance. Does it look like a BUILDING fell on her? No... it looks like someone poured stuff on her.

And I'm taking that from the site I got it from. And I quote "This Palestinian girl was buried alive." If you don't believe it... I'd take that up with the site.
Nate, I'm just challenging the credibilty of the photo. I can give you another example. After the Battle of Gettysburg, a man took a photo in the Devils Den of an apparently killed sniper. Later research proved that this photo was posed and set up for dramatic purposes. Wondering if the Palestinians may have done the same for PR purposes...
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nate jonesacc Wrote:The people dancing in the street were a) radical extremists and b) happy that it happened not because they are sick people... but because it was bound to happen... and that maybe we would now understand what we've been doing...
Ayayayayayayayaya!!!!!!!!

Dude, that's what women were yelling. But thanks for pointing out that they were radical extremists..........they were normal Palestinians. You know, radical extremists.
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T-Monay820 Wrote:Wondering if the Palestinians may have done the same for PR purposes...
Nope, in their case it's called propaganda. I.e. like the funerals of dead Palestinians that turned out to be alive.....and staged for the camera.
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T-Monay820 Wrote:
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nate jonesacc Wrote:So burying a 10 year old girl is collateral damage?
Nate, were you there watching her be buried alive? Did you see Israeli's burying her in person? Did you ever consider that a collapsed building might be the cause? How can you trust the guy who took the photo?
Let's see... the man is wearing a uniform... and according the RebelKev... Palestinians don't wear uniforms... the girl is BURIED under sand or some other powdery substance. Does it look like a BUILDING fell on her? No... it looks like someone poured stuff on her.

And I'm taking that from the site I got it from. And I quote "This Palestinian girl was buried alive." If you don't believe it... I'd take that up with the site.
Nate, I'm just challenging the credibilty of the photo. I can give you another example. After the Battle of Gettysburg, a man took a photo in the Devils Den of an apparently killed sniper. Later research proved that this photo was posed and set up for dramatic purposes. Wondering if the Palestinians may have done the same for PR purposes...
FWIW... that isn't a Palestinian site...

Let's just say that the photo is a fraud (which you still haven't proven)... what about the pictures of young girls shot in the head? Were they terrorists Thomas?
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RebelKev Wrote:
nate jonesacc Wrote:The people dancing in the street were a) radical extremists and b) happy that it happened not because they are sick people... but because it was bound to happen... and that maybe we would now understand what we've been doing...
Ayayayayayayayaya!!!!!!!!

Dude, that's what women were yelling. But thanks for pointing out that they were radical extremists..........they were normal Palestinians. You know, radical extremists.
No... some were radical extremists... others, the "b" group... were just happy that maybe now our country will understand that it's oppression of the Arabs is developing a bitter hatred.

Every day that passes we create another Osama Bin Laden. I promise you that.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:others, the "b" group... were just happy that maybe now our country will understand that it's oppression of the Arabs is developing a bitter hatred.
Uh yeah....and you are living in the land Oz if you believe that.
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Can you prove they weren't? This thread has clearly proved that the Palestinians and their militia's don't wear uniforms. All agreed? With that in mind, whats the proof that she didn't posses a weapon or threaten a troop? I think Chris Rock said it, "I like guns. With a gun, you don't have to work out." Just because she's a girl doesn't exempt her from the "can't be killed if a threat" rule. Look at Somalia. How many boys and girls under 10 did we see fighting the US troops? I will say the Israeli's aren't perfect and may jump to conclusions, but you make seem like they are out to eliminate them entirely.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:others, the "b" group... were just happy that maybe now our country will understand that it's oppression of the Arabs is developing a bitter hatred.
Uh yeah....and you are living in the land Oz if you believe that.
I think I know more Palestinians than you do...
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T-Monay820 Wrote:Can you prove they weren't? This thread has clearly proved that the Palestinians and their militia's don't wear uniforms. All agreed? With that in mind, whats the proof that she didn't posses a weapon or threaten a troop? I think Chris Rock said it, "I like guns. With a gun, you don't have to work out." Just because she's a girl doesn't exempt her from the "can't be killed if a threat" rule. Look at Somalia. How many boys and girls under 10 did we see fighting the US troops? I will say the Israeli's aren't perfect and may jump to conclusions, but you make seem like they are out to eliminate them entirely.
Out to eliminate the Palestinians entirely is the basic premise behind Zionism. That the Holy Land must be occupied by only Jews.

And... even if the girl was a threat... (I'm sure she was throwing a rock at a tank and was a hostile threat :rolleyes: ) Burying her alive is a feasible punishment? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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T-Monay820 Wrote:Can you prove they weren't? This thread has clearly proved that the Palestinians and their militia's don't wear uniforms. All agreed? With that in mind, whats the proof that she didn't posses a weapon or threaten a troop? I think Chris Rock said it, "I like guns. With a gun, you don't have to work out." Just because she's a girl doesn't exempt her from the "can't be killed if a threat" rule. Look at Somalia. How many boys and girls under 10 did we see fighting the US troops? I will say the Israeli's aren't perfect and may jump to conclusions, but you make seem like they are out to eliminate them entirely.
Out to eliminate the Palestinians entirely is the basic premise behind Zionism. That the Holy Land must be occupied by only Jews.

And... even if the girl was a threat... (I'm sure she was throwing a rock at a tank and was a hostile threat :rolleyes: ) Burying her alive is a feasible punishment? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Nate, why did you go back to the buried girl? The last reference was to the girls with bullets in their heads. Oh yeah, rocks can kill. Its called a sling and hitting troop that escort the tank.
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