hold up you guys. Daumn, it is like you are bunch of hungry wolves ready to attack.

My point is, why do they get a special school? Why do I have to pay tax dollars because PARENTS AREN'T DOING THEIR JOBS? I don't understand why these kids get their own shelter from society. If you can't follow the rules then jail is exactly where they should be. Now that is more like real life.

We are not talking about mentally challenged kids here. We are talking about the worst of the worst.

I disagree that these kids consider this punishment. It is a far easier curriculum, many times with lax or more flexible hours just to get these kids to attend and get through.

I agree in the fact that jail is the place they need to go...IF they commit an actual crime.

For breaking a school law that's not a city/state/federal law, alternative schools are there. If a troublemaker is just disturbing the class time and time again, they need to head there. Those schools aren't a safe haven for them from society, it just makes society that much safer by not having them in the standard public schools.

Want it really the way it should be? Let the military run the alternative schools. Or instead of cities making alternative schools, send the troublemakers to military school. They'll do some public service while getting their butts in gear.

Where I disagree is on the catering to minorties bit, and linking troublemakers to gays. It's one thing to send students somewhere else for being disruptive; it's another to give students who don't disrupt a thing a special school because they wanna sleep with people of the same sex. One is a gift, one is not.

WPS

alternative schools recieve funding from the public schools. So you aren't paying seperate taxes. Some of the money going to public schools is channeled (however u spell it) to the alternative schools. Some alternative schools are held on the grounds of the schools these kids were "kicked out of."

Another important point is that liberals use alternative students as a jobs program. For instance, in New York it costs the board of education $7,000/regular student, but it costs them $12,000 for each special ed student. While special ed kids should get mroe attention, the state sticks the trouble makers in the special ed class so they can spend more money. Taxes aren't raised until the board of ed goes over the budget. Unfortunately i don't know how much it costs the state per each real alternative student. Unfortunately, these kids can't get kicked out of school for good. When you say they should be put in jail, you have to remember that it costs the state $ to put people in jail, also.

So lilred you're right when you say it's not fair for taxpayers and it's the parents' fault. Taxes are hardly ever fair. Remember, MORE FUNDING TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, MEANS MORE JOBS FOR LIBERAL SERVANTS.

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Lil Red, what exactly is that Wolf doing with his left arm in your avatar?

Lil Red, not being a perv or anything, but wh

Lil Red, not being a perv or anything, but wh

Lil Red, not being a perv or anything, but wh

Lil Red, not being a perv or anything, but wh

Lil Red, not being a perv or anything, but wh

RebelKev Wrote:Lil Red, what exactly is that Wolf doing with his left arm in your avatar?

:laugh:

Terpy Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:Lil Red, what exactly is that Wolf doing with his left arm in your avatar?

:laugh:

Man, something happened with the reply feature. I thought it was hung up so I stopped and refreshed. It then showed two posts, but the first was like the 3rd-6th so I edited with "...". I JUST now noticed that it showed up more times.


GTS, we don't have the option to delete?

I think there is a delete option when you click edit post. atleast there used to be. :laugh:

There's one main issue here; whether you believe homosexuality is something you're born with, if it's a conscious decision, or if it's a medical disorder.

If you believe homosexuality is something you're born with, this is unconstitutional.

If you believe homosexuality is something you adopt consciously, or it's a medical disorder, then this is completely constitutional.

nate jonesacc Wrote:If you believe homosexuality is something you adopt consciously, or it's a medical disorder, then this is completely constitutional.

Wrong. There are people that consciously adopt racism, believe their race is superior, and believe in segregation, and it's STILL wrong.

RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:If you believe homosexuality is something you adopt consciously, or it's a medical disorder, then this is completely constitutional.

Wrong. There are people that consciously adopt racism, believe their race is superior, and believe in segregation, and it's STILL wrong.

That's great. Just go ahead and equate homosexuality and racism.

nate jonesacc Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:If you believe homosexuality is something you adopt consciously, or it's a medical disorder, then this is completely constitutional.

Wrong. There are people that consciously adopt racism, believe their race is superior, and believe in segregation, and it's STILL wrong.

That's great. Just go ahead and equate homosexuality and racism.

I am DEFINATELY not. I am equating people wanting to be separate with people wanting to be separate.

RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:If you believe homosexuality is something you adopt consciously, or it's a medical disorder, then this is completely constitutional.

Wrong. There are people that consciously adopt racism, believe their race is superior, and believe in segregation, and it's STILL wrong.

That's great. Just go ahead and equate homosexuality and racism.

I am DEFINATELY not. I am equating people wanting to be separate with people wanting to be separate.

Homosexuality has NO history of oppressing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Homosexuality is not a societal problem. We don't ever worry as a society... "how are we gonna contain all these homosexuals?". There is nothing wrong with two men or two women wanting to live faithfully in a relationship together. There is something wrong with a racist wanting to practice racism. There is nothing wrong with a homosexual wanting to practice homosexuality (as long as it's the same way a hetero would practice... faithfully).

nate jonesacc Wrote:Homosexuality has NO history of oppressing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Homosexuality is not a societal problem. We don't ever worry as a society... "how are we gonna contain all these homosexuals?". There is nothing wrong with two men or two women wanting to live faithfully in a relationship together. There is something wrong with a racist wanting to practice racism. There is nothing wrong with a homosexual wanting to practice homosexuality (as long as it's the same way a hetero would practice... faithfully).

It's STILL segregation and unconstitutional. Ok, I want MY children to go to a school that has a MINIMUM of 100K capita per household. ...and it has NO ties to oppression of millions, so it should be allowed.


The point is, tax dollars from ALL New Yorkers are paying for this, making it unconstitutional. If they want a PRIVATE Gay school, there is NOTHING stopping them.

RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:Homosexuality has NO history of oppressing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Homosexuality is not a societal problem. We don't ever worry as a society... "how are we gonna contain all these homosexuals?". There is nothing wrong with two men or two women wanting to live faithfully in a relationship together. There is something wrong with a racist wanting to practice racism. There is nothing wrong with a homosexual wanting to practice homosexuality (as long as it's the same way a hetero would practice... faithfully).

It's STILL segregation and unconstitutional. Ok, I want MY children to go to a school that has a MINIMUM of 100K capita per household. ...and it has NO ties to oppression of millions, so it should be allowed.


The point is, tax dollars from ALL New Yorkers are paying for this, making it unconstitutional. If they want a PRIVATE Gay school, there is NOTHING stopping them.

1) That school is completely constitutional.

2) That is right. I should have elaborated on that... if you believe that homosexuality is something you are born with, it's unconstitutional to have a private Gay school. NY tax payers shouldn't have to pay for anything but public schools that accept everyone (before mischief).