RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:Oh I forgot to add in there... I would much rather trust the word of people with MDivs and PhDs in religion and theology than a couple war mongering conservatives.

Okay, Smartass, as a liberal, what do you think about what he said in my sig? ....since he thinks only conservatives believe in fighting when necessary.

BTW, when Jesus went on a tirade against the money changers through the temple, using your failed logic, shouldn't he have just turned the other cheek?

I don't think one can categorize conservatives or liberals under "war mongering" or not... it just so happens that you are one of the war mongering conservatives... BTW... don't ever think I'm a liberal... I dislike liberal philosophy just as much as you do.

What did Jesus do wrong? He didn't hurt anyone... He certainly didn't kill anyone. He was angry... yes. Being angry is not a sin. Overturning tables is not a sin.

Still waiting for Rick to explain the Moses as a Christian connection there...

nate jonesacc Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:Oh I forgot to add in there... I would much rather trust the word of people with MDivs and PhDs in religion and theology than a couple war mongering conservatives.

Okay, Smartass, as a liberal, what do you think about what he said in my sig? ....since he thinks only conservatives believe in fighting when necessary.

BTW, when Jesus went on a tirade against the money changers through the temple, using your failed logic, shouldn't he have just turned the other cheek?

I don't think one can categorize conservatives or liberals under "war mongering" or not... it just so happens that you are one of the war mongering conservatives...

YOU just did!



People, read the sig

NO... I DIDN'T... just because I say that you are a WAR MONGERING CONSERVATIVE DOES NOT MEAN ALL WAR MONGERERS ARE CONSERVATIVE. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

nate jonesacc Wrote:NO... I DIDN'T... just because I say that you are a WAR MONGERING CONSERVATIVE DOES NOT MEAN ALL WAR MONGERERS ARE CONSERVATIVE. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

So trying to protect freedom, my country, and civilization is being a war-mongeror?


Well then By God, I am a war-mongeror.

Nate, you are so messed up in the head, you are not even worth the time. I feel sorry for you..........pray. How freakin lame. I bet your dad would shoot the bastards. Grow up.

Nate, i'm impressed by the strength of your faith, but damn!

Have you ever heard the expression "God helps them, who help themselves?" God isn't gonna come to our rescue all the time. Just think 9/11. If God was always gonna protect us, then why did that happen?

So how do you explain this little contradiction?...Your God let's 3000 people die. Is that him being imperfect? or does it have something to do with "free will"?

Nate, i don't understand how you can criticize someone or call them a war monger if they aren't christian. Are Christians the only people in the world who are ever correct?

RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:

rickheel Wrote:Nate, 4 biker types break into your house after cutting the phone lines. You live in the middle of nowhere. You have a 45 under your pillow. They take turns raping your mom and sister after cutting your dads d i c k off. They dont know you are there. You could easily take the 4 of them with ease. No problem.... what do you do?

Pray.

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Sorry, ROFLMAO!

You know, I wonder what his dad would want him to do,,,,,,,,,,,grow a set of balls maybe?

rickheel Wrote:You know, I wonder what his dad would want him to do,,,,,,,,,,,grow a set of balls maybe?

You think he gets beat up alot?

You know how you expose a pacifist, right?

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Walk up to him and ***** slap him.

When he gets up to defend himself, simply state, "Wait, you're a pacifist, you are supposed to turn the other cheek"

When he agrees and calms down.....slap him even harder.

When he gets up again to defend himself, repeat what you said earlier.

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Repeat these steps as many times as necessary until the dumb*** realizes that one must fight back at times.

Come on Nate, you may answer............

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guess not

This discussion has just become a big mudslinging contest... who can call the other one the biggest moron etc... so I'm going to respond to everything said... then I'm through... nothing constructive is going to come from this. You aren't going to change my opinion, and I doubt I'm going to change yours.

RebelKev... I've never been "beat up"... I got in some fights back in middle school... I lost a few, won a few... but I've changed since then. You must understand... becoming a pacifist was a bitter pill for me to swallow, but a necessary one. My instinct is to fight back, or protect myself... but I no longer feel the need to protect myself physically. And the most famous pacifists like MLK and Gandhi weren't susceptible to your "exposing a pacifist" theory... Someone who would become "undone" because of what you said is not really a pacifist... just a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Rick... Most of what you said is mere flamebait... and I'm not going to respond to any of it.

Flyingswoosh... I never said anything like what you are accusing me of saying. OF COURSE non Christians can or can not be war mongers... You're misunderstanding me... all I said is that it is not ethical for a Christian to be a war monger. That makes no statement of nonChristians.

smartass... thanks for being rational in what you said. I wish Rick and RebelKev (who are supposed to be the old, wise, prestigious conservatives) would take a cue from you. What RebelKev said was "Are we just supposed to sit back and let Christians die out?" or something to that effect. My answer: That would never happen... put your trust in God to make sure that Christianity does not die out as a group. Just as he did re: Noah's ark... God WOULD intervene (thus ending the world). September 11th was all about free will... but there is a point in which God would step in and say "This has gone too far"... like Noah's Ark... and he would end the world.

I'm done. Regardless of how many times Rick insults my Dad or myself, I'm through... this is silly.

Nate, Noah was in the time when God WOULD intervene. It's called BC.

Quote:RebelKev... I've never been "beat up"... I got in some fights back in middle school... I lost a few, won a few... but I've changed since then. You must understand... becoming a pacifist was a bitter pill for me to swallow, but a necessary one. My instinct is to fight back, or protect myself... but I no longer feel the need to protect myself physically. And the most famous pacifists like MLK and Gandhi weren't susceptible to your "exposing a pacifist" theory... Someone who would become "undone" because of what you said is not really a pacifist... just a wolf in sheep's clothing.

MLK had the law on his side. The "High School Fights" was a bad example as the people that you turn the other cheek to just want to win a fight. We, the USA and the REST of the civilized world, are in a fight for our lives. We are in a fight for our existence. We HAVE to be vigilant. After Christ died for our sins, our lives and fate were left to us. You are an idiot if you think God is going to step in and prevent it. Can he? Oh hell yes. Does he? No.

You can be a pacifist because you know us "War-Mongerors" will protect your ******

Quote:Rick... Most of what you said is mere flamebait... and I'm not going to respond to any of it.

You know damn well you would pick up the gun and put some holes in them......you know it and I know it. :laugh: Its human nature nater ol buddy.

RebelKev Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:

rickheel Wrote:Nate, 4 biker types break into your house after cutting the phone lines. You live in the middle of nowhere. You have a 45 under your pillow. They take turns raping your mom and sister after cutting your dads d i c k off. They dont know you are there. You could easily take the 4 of them with ease. No problem.... what do you do?

Pray.

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Sorry, ROFLMAO!

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