Dogger Wrote:Reb,

You guys ban Klutz for personal attacks, yet some members of your ideaology practice the same agenda. I was just pointing out the double standard. So now you guys will know why the left leaves this board.

Stop whinning about conspiracy theories. You've got Schadenfreude as a mod. He has the same abilities as I, Swoosh, and GB have. If he doesn't have a problem, then neither should you.

i read this whole thing and haven't found one personal attack, worse than saying "you're going to make me puke." and if you want to ban someone for that, then i guess we should just shut down the whole board.

Dogger Wrote:Reb,

You guys ban Klutz for personal attacks, yet some members of your ideaology practice the same agenda. I was just pointing out the double standard. So now you guys will know why the left leaves this board.

Klutz wasn't banned. He was given a "Time Out" from the Spin Room only. He apparently decided not to come back. Why did he get a "Time Out"? Because he PERSONALLY attacked me on a daily basis. I took it 'till I no longer could. By the way, I like to call Klutz out but not you? Klutz put you to shame. You guys have moderators now. Schad, as much as I despise his politics, is very fair in his judgement. If he sees a liberal OR Conservative being bashed personally, he knows what to do and there is no admin that doesn't have faith in him. He didn't, so there was apparently no problem. Don't insult Schad with statements like that. ....and you did.

Reb,

I agree Klutz put everyone to shame in an argument. That is why he was banned. There are no conspiracy theories here. Why do you guys think Oddball left? As long as niner stops the personal attacks I will not comment on the moderation any longer. BTW it was GB who started me on the AUP line. He used it on me in a discussion. I have tried to follow it since.

Now back to the TOPIC. What results can W campaign on? Lets examine two key issues for his administration in this election.

Economy- I don't agree with his tax cuts or the devaluing of the dollar, however the outsourcing is just a result of a global economy. I don't think you can blame W for outsourcing. Now what has been the reult of his four years for our economy. Any rationale person would think he doesn't score well here. Personally people who are invested into defense contractors may be doing very well but for middle America you would think the econmy will hurt W.

THE WAR- the election....... IMHO.. How Americans feel about Iraq will determine the elections. Any more beheadings on TV or the internet you can look for a 2 pt. bounce for Kerry. W spends the majority of his money criticizing Kerry because he can't run on his record. I hope Kerry points that out in some TV ads. Why isn't my opponent campaigning on his record? We are running for his presidency not my senate seat. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED? Do people on here think that American's think that the MISSION is ACCCOMPLISHED?

Quote:Next time you want to lie you might want to edit out the evidence against you before you do it.

Night Night Mother Teresa. 

After going back and reading I see niner has edited out some of the retard comments. That's OK niner, it just shows your true colors. If I would have attacked you personally I would at least have the balls to keep it there. So now your buddies can go back through the post and say things like this

Quote: i read this whole thing and haven't found one personal attack, worse than saying "you're going to make me puke." and if you want to ban someone for that, then i guess we should just shut down the whole board.

It's OK. I'm done. I've proven my point.

Dogger Wrote:Now back to the TOPIC.  What results can W campaign on?  Lets examine two key issues for his administration in this election.

What results can Kerry campaign on? Being the most liberal senator in Congress? Voting against military bills more than anyone else IN Congress?

Dogger Wrote:Now back to the TOPIC. What results can W campaign on? Lets examine two key issues for his administration in this election.

Economy- I don't agree with his tax cuts or the devaluing of the dollar, however the outsourcing is just a result of a global economy. I don't think you can blame W for outsourcing. Now what has been the reult of his four years for our economy. Any rationale person would think he doesn't score well here. Personally people who are invested into defense contractors may be doing very well but for middle America you would think the econmy will hurt W.

THE WAR- the election....... IMHO.. How Americans feel about Iraq will determine the elections. Any more beheadings on TV or the internet you can look for a 2 pt. bounce for Kerry. W spends the majority of his money criticizing Kerry because he can't run on his record. I hope Kerry points that out in some TV ads. Why isn't my opponent campaigning on his record? We are running for his presidency not my senate seat. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED? Do people on here think that American's think that the MISSION is ACCCOMPLISHED?

I've never seen democrats spin an issue so far out of control as I have the "Mission Accomplished" sign. Tell me, are we still running bombing raids over Baghdad with AA fire? Are we still running convoys through enemy lines and seiging cities?

Are we still trying to overtake Saddam's palaces and control the airports?

The banner read "Mission Accomplished", and for that aspect of the mission- IT WAS ACCOMPLISHED.

Notice that the banner did not read "War Accomplished", or "War is Over". The White House told everyone from Day 1 that this would be a long, drawn out war.

But, democrats would rather use a banner which boosted morale of soldiers for their own political gain.

RebelKev Wrote:

Dogger Wrote:Now back to the TOPIC.  What results can W campaign on?  Lets examine two key issues for his administration in this election.

What results can Kerry campaign on? Being the most liberal senator in Congress? Voting against military bills more than anyone else IN Congress?

Kerry can run on his purple hearts and his service in Vietnam, which are being proven to be a sham and a fallacy.

He is a fraud.

Quote:After going back and reading I see niner has edited out some of the retard comments.  That's OK niner, it just shows your true colors.

You know your lies are pathetic. I said I was done but I'm not going to put up with your lies.

Yes I called you a tard, ONCE. And it's still there. I have not edited it out.

The only one showing there true colors here is you. You've shown you make up any lie you have to try and absolve yourself from what you've done wrong.

You started the name calling, you lied about never calling me a name other that little, you lied about me editing my post.

This isn't a personal attack, it's true. You're a liar. And I've proved that in this thread.

Quote:It's OK. I'm done.  I've proven my point.

Then I guess your point was to prove you're a bold faced liar. And you did accomplish it, everyone here sees it.

Congrats. It's the only thing you've proven in anything you've ever posted.

Now I'm done.

Ninerfan1 Wrote:

Quote:After going back and reading I see niner has edited out some of the retard comments.  That's OK niner, it just shows your true colors.

You know your lies are pathetic. I said I was done but I'm not going to put up with your lies.

Yes I called you a tard, ONCE. And it's still there. I have not edited it out.

The only one showing there true colors here is you. You've shown you make up any lie you have to try and absolve yourself from what you've done wrong.

You started the name calling, you lied about never calling me a name other that little, you lied about me editing my post.

This isn't a personal attack, it's true. You're a liar. And I've proved that in this thread.

Quote:It's OK. I'm done.  I've proven my point.

Then I guess your point was to prove you're a bold faced liar. And you did accomplish it, everyone here sees it.

Congrats. It's the only thing you've proven in anything you've ever posted.

Now I'm done.

Dogger is the Michael Moore of this board, Niner. He's essentially having a discussion with himself - his blind ideology prevents him from responding to posts or engaging in rational discussion - to do so would be to topple the fragile house of cards he and other libs have built for this candidate, and crush the very foundation of their faulty logic.

I've been extremely forthright about the fact that I haven't agreed with everything W. has done, and he will do things I don't like in the future. You just can't get Dems to admit to anything - they're right about EVERYTHING, and are angry that we don't bow down to their "superior" intellect.

The Democratic Party - The Potemkin Village of politics.

Niner,

You are the LIAR. You did not post "He really is the tard". So go on with your lies, I really don't care.

I'm done.

Bearcat,
I feel results matter is not something W can campaign on. Even Colin Powell said military victory would take less than a month. We would own the country after that. We did not plan for the peace. The result is a cluster**** that will probably lead to a civil war. I'm not drinking haterade, it's the reality. This from the man who campaigned in 2000 on the fallacies of nation building. Who campaigned on the uniter not the divider. What a train wreck.

Lets knock of the talk about insults and stick to the subject. If you ever have a problem with someone being out of line, pm a mod or a admin. I cant stand coming around this forum myself..

It's too bad, Rick. I enjoy the site and I appreciate 95% of the people on here. I've just had enough.

Quote:Dogger is the Michael Moore of this board, Niner.  He's essentially having a discussion with himself - his blind ideology prevents him from responding to posts or engaging in rational discussion - to do so would be to topple the fragile house of cards he and other libs have built for this candidate, and crush the very foundation of their faulty logic.

How right you are Carl. What baffles me is him, like Moore, continue to hold to their lies even after it's plain to anyone and everyone that they've lied. For example, Moore continues to hold to the lie that the White House made the call that members of the bin laden family could fly out after 9/11. Richard Clarke then comes out and says, "No, it was my call and it got no higher than me." Yet Moore refuses to back off. Dogger is the same way, even in the face of facts no one can refute, that blatenly refute his claims, he still klings to them. And what's worse, to me anyway, is he makes up lies to try and deflect from that fact that he's wrong. Then when you show those lies to be lies, he makes up more. As the old fable goes, these emperors have no cloths.

Quote:I've been extremely forthright about the fact that I haven't agreed with everything W. has done, and he will do things I don't like in the future.  You just can't get Dems to admit to anything - they're right about EVERYTHING, and are angry that we don't bow down to their "superior" intellect.

As have I. I believe Bush's spending on social programs is wrong, he should have jettisoned Rumsfeld after Iraq went so bad after we won the war and he caved on judicial nominations when he should have fought.

But see we deal in logic and reason. Libs like Moore and Dogger deal in hate and irrational points. There is no discussing anything with people like that, the only thing you can really do is pity them, or laugh at them, whichever feeling comes out.
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