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Now that the investigation has solid evidence of corruption, embezzlement, conflicts of interest etc etc, Kofi Anan has said he will take 'disciplinary' actions vs those culpable. I wonder what the hell he's gonna do. The fact is Anan should be removed from his position as well as Savon , he is after all responsible for the UN and it was done under his leadership. This is yet another failure by the UN costing the US and the world money. The UN has lost / stolen / or misused nearly 20 billion dollars in recent years. The UN, IMO, has no credibility and should be disbanded or overhauled starting from the top. Time and time again the UN is either incompetent , inept, corrupt or hippocritical. On a more positive note, many US politicians seem to be taking notice, and following up on the current state of the UN and its leadership.




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02-03-2005 07:55 PM
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The U.S. bears far more culpability in that scandal than the son-of-John Birchers would have you believe.
02-03-2005 09:58 PM
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I.e. The US is at fault, right Schad? Man, you really ARE a FAR left-winger. I wonder if Kofi is going to take disciplinary action against his son. ........and Schad, you'd probably defend Kojo too. Wake up. This IS the reason people are leaving your party.
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Conservatives are trying to turn this into a morality play about how the UN can do no right.

It's more complex. Much of the oversight of the program was delegated to member nations, and no nation had a greater oversight role than the United States.

Saddam illegally sold billions of dollars worth of oil to Jordan, Turkey and Egypt, and the United States essentially looked the other way, because these were American allies.

Oil smuggling also occurred at sea. The "Multinational Interception Force" created to intercept illegal smuggling was essentially the U.S. Navy with a few British ships thrown in.

Finally, I believe the United States had such a strong role on the committee that approved all contracts that it could block any one it wished.

This is worth reading, from The Nation:

The much-vaunted kickbacks on import contracts also turn out to be not quite as advertised. Saddam, the claim goes, inflated the price of import contracts by 5 to 10 percent, then received the difference in cash from the contractors. Thousands of contracts, stretching over years, were involved; how could the UN have been so incompetent as not to notice? In fact, prices inflated by only 5 or 10 percent were difficult to detect precisely because the amounts were so small and often within the normal range of market prices. But when pricing irregularities were large enough that they might have indicated kickbacks, the UN staff did notice. On more than seventy occasions, the staff brought these to the attention of the 661 Committee, the Security Council body charged with implementing the sanctions. On no occasion did the United States block or delay the contracts to prevent the kickbacks from occurring. Although the United States, citing security concerns, blocked billions of dollars of humanitarian contracts--$5 billion were on hold as of July 2002--it never took action to stop kickbacks, even when they were obvious and well documented.

<a href='http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041206&s=gordon' target='_blank'>http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041206&s=gordon</a>

The fact is, conservatives are pushing this scandal hard because they don't like the UN. They don't like they fact Kofi Annan has made it clear that the United States invasion of Iraq violated the UN charter, which we helped draft.

The UN's very existence is inconvenient to Republicans on a number of levels -- such as the [sarcasm]outlandishly socialist idea[/sarcasm] that the United States -- where people earn $37,610 per capita -- should pay a bit more to support the UN than Bangladesh, where people earn $400 per capita.

So conservatives are hyping this hard.

Don't believe the hype.
02-04-2005 07:18 AM
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SF, your really out there with your theories, please explain what you are inferring about the US / British Navy, are you saying that they were too inept to catch the smugglers , or that they secretly stole the oil, please elaborate, as a vetern of the US Navy I can't wait to hear this one! And your right in one aspect of the US fault in the Oil for food scandal, we give the UN money which helps fund these corrupt and incompetent actions, I think the US should cease funding the UN.
02-05-2005 02:24 AM
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SDSundevil Wrote:please explain what you are inferring about the US / British Navy,
I'm not implying much of anything. I don't know a great deal about this scandal.

But, to the extent that seaborne smuggling is a part of this scandal -- and I don't know the extent -- those who just want to turn this into a story about gross UN incompetence might want to consider that it was U.S. sailors patrolling the seas.
02-05-2005 08:24 AM
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Schadenfreude Wrote:I'm not implying much of anything. I don't know a great deal about this scandal.
If Bush was involved......you'd not only know all about it, Bush would be you #1 priority. :rolleyes:
02-06-2005 02:45 AM
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