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Normally, I wouldn't look down on someone for grades, but.....

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Why do I laugh, you might ask? Because all of these "so-called" liberal elites talk about Bush's intelligence.

Which reminds me of something I saw here:

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Quote:Who's Smarter?

The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get with names like "stupid," "morons," and "idiots." Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country?Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid," "ignorant," "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them.

President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard.

Vice President Dick Cheney: Earned a B. A. in 1965 and a M. A. in 1966, both in political science.

Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U. S. and foreign military awards and decorations.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U. S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator.

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie, he earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U. S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, *** Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph. D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (*** Laude).

So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience?

Barbara Streisand: Completed high school. Career: Singing and actingCher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and actingMartin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: Acting

Jessica Lange: Dropped out of college mid-freshman year. Career: Acting

Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington. Career: Acting

Julia Roberts: Completed high school. Career: Acting

Sean Penn: Completed High school. Career: Acting

Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D. C. Career: Acting

Ed Asner: Completed High school. Career: Acting

George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky. Career: Acting

Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career: Movie Director

Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting

Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting

Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting

Janeane Garofalo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienne

Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career: Acting

While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security.

They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN. We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders.

These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held.

When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed by freedom-hating terrorists while going about their routine lives, they hold rallies against the war.

It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall them.

Yes, it's a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, talking of world peace. But it is not real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, and with strength and determination defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action and threat of immediate war. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended because of the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan...PEACE through STRENGTH.

He finished strong and that is what is important. Same thing for Bush. I think the big complaint about his is that he is very inarticulate. I don't remember W's intelligence being as much of a joke in the 2004 election as compared to 2000. It's funny all of us here who do whatever for a living make fun of politicians and celebrities that make way more money that any of us could "probably" ever make. Maybe we should have dropped out and became actors.

JTiger Wrote:He finished strong and that is what is important. Same thing for Bush. I think the big complaint about his is that he is very inarticulate. I don't remember W's intelligence being as much of a joke in the 2004 election as compared to 2000. It's funny all of us here who do whatever for a living make fun of politicians and celebrities that make way more money that any of us could "probably" ever make. Maybe we should have dropped out and became actors.

I wanted a real job though. :D

Seriously, Kerry's grades wouldn't have meant a hill of beans to me had he and his "folks" not branded Bush the dumbest thing since Lennie Small. They made that bed, don'tcha think?


As far as Bush's articulation, I like Jackie Mason's analogy. Who's better at talking, a Scientist that works in a basement? Or a car salesman?

I'll be the first to give Bush credit on that charge. He is definately smater than he comes off or gets credit for. I mean, he is a two term president, that's not to shabby.

RebelKev Wrote:I wanted a real job though. :D

but whats a real job.
like teaching history?

Tulsaman Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:I wanted a real job though.&nbsp; :D

but whats a real job.
like teaching history?

What's wrong with teaching history? I'd say it's one of the most important jobs.

JTiger Wrote:

Tulsaman Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:I wanted a real job though.  :D

but whats a real job.
like teaching history?

What's wrong with teaching history? I'd say it's one of the most important jobs.

i know i'm most likely gonna be a College history teacher. :D

Tulsaman Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:

Tulsaman Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:I wanted a real job though.&nbsp; :D

but whats a real job.
like teaching history?

What's wrong with teaching history? I'd say it's one of the most important jobs.

i know i'm most likely gonna be a College history teacher. :D

"Those who can, do, those who can't, teach."

-unknown

blah Wrote:"Those who can, do, those who can't, teach."

-unknown

If you can read this, thank a teacher.

-bumper sticker-

Where would we be without teachers? The dark ages. And people wonder why most teachers vote democratic.

JTiger Wrote:Where would we be without teachers? The dark ages. And people wonder why most teachers vote democratic.

Sometimes I wonder whether teachers become democrats or democrats become teachers.

JTiger Wrote:

blah Wrote:"Those who can, do, those who can't, teach."

-unknown

If you can read this, thank a teacher.

-bumper sticker-

Where would we be without teachers? The dark ages. And people wonder why most teachers vote democratic.

Homeschooling is become more and more common. Why? Well, if teachers would do what their job requires...to teach, there would be no problem. However, many teachers are now more into indoctrination than they are teaching. Teach the kids, I don't give a damn if you're Republican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian, etc., don't bring that crap into the school.

RebelKev Wrote:Homeschooling is become more and more common. Why? Well, if teachers would do what their job requires...to teach, there would be no problem. However, many teachers are now more into indoctrination than they are teaching. Teach the kids, I don't give a damn if you're Republican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian, etc., don't bring that crap into the school.

The problem is parental involvement, IMO. Parents lay all the blame for thier kid being stupid at the feet of the teachers. You have to be involved in your child's school work. Ask them if they had homework or if a test is coming up. I've always had a problem with homeschooling because the people teaching their children may not even have degrees in anything. Also, while some are very book smart, some lack the basic social skills required in college. IMO, the social aspect of school is 50%. If you can't relate to someone, how can you work in a team environment?

I agree with teachers not bringing politics to school. At the grade school level, I seriously doubt it's a problem.

JTiger Wrote:And people wonder why most teachers vote democratic.

Teachers vote democratic because the democrats give them anything and everything they could want in exchange for the union votes. Democrats will fund the schools, cut back on test rqmts and accountability, vote against vouchers and make teachers who are tenured impossible to get rid of even if they suck and are harming the students.

That's why they vote democratic.

JTiger Wrote:Where would we be without teachers? The dark ages. And people wonder why most teachers vote democratic.

Who can't play that game?

Where would we be without the printing press? The Dark Ages.
Where would be without the industrial revolution? The Dark Ages.
Where would we be without guns? The Dark Ages.

Making assertions like this do not make them true.
Heck we might all be driving flying cars right now if it weren't for guns... or teachers!

Ninerfan1 Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:And people wonder why most teachers vote democratic.

Teachers vote democratic because the democrats give them anything and everything they could want in exchange for the union votes. Democrats will fund the schools, cut back on test rqmts and accountability, vote against vouchers and make teachers who are tenured impossible to get rid of even if they suck and are harming the students.

That's why they vote democratic.

How true.

JTiger Wrote:IMO, the social aspect of school is 50%.&nbsp; If you can't relate to someone, how can you work in a team environment?

I'm in a very good high school home education program. I can relate to people as well as anyone who's gone to a government school. That's a slap in the face to me and many other home schoolers. I'm not saying some of them aren't socially inept, but to paint us all with the same broad brush is simply uninformed.

GDawgs88 Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:IMO, the social aspect of school is 50%.&nbsp; If you can't relate to someone, how can you work in a team environment?

I'm in a very good high school home education program. I can relate to people as well as anyone who's gone to a government school. That's a slap in the face to me and many other home schoolers. I'm not saying some of them aren't socially inept, but to paint us all with the same broad brush is simply uninformed.

It also makes the assumption that the only social lfe kids have comes from a school. Augusta is known for their extra-curricular activities.

GDawgs88 Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:IMO, the social aspect of school is 50%.&nbsp; If you can't relate to someone, how can you work in a team environment?

I'm in a very good high school home education program. I can relate to people as well as anyone who's gone to a government school. That's a slap in the face to me and many other home schoolers. I'm not saying some of them aren't socially inept, but to paint us all with the same broad brush is simply uninformed.

Read my whole post, I said "some" not "all"

Thank you, come again.

JTiger Wrote:Read my whole post, I said "some" not "all"

Thank you, come again.

Sorry, I admit I did read your post very quickly. But, as for your comment about some home schoolers not having good social skills, the same can be said for any type of students. I know kids who are in public schools that can barely talk to people.

JTiger Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:Homeschooling is become more and more common. Why? Well, if teachers would do what their job requires...to teach, there would be no problem. However, many teachers are now more into indoctrination than they are teaching. Teach the kids, I don't give a damn if you're Republican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian, etc., don't bring that crap into the school.

The problem is parental involvement, IMO. Parents lay all the blame for thier kid being stupid at the feet of the teachers. You have to be involved in your child's school work. Ask them if they had homework or if a test is coming up. I've always had a problem with homeschooling because the people teaching their children may not even have degrees in anything. Also, while some are very book smart, some lack the basic social skills required in college. IMO, the social aspect of school is 50%. If you can't relate to someone, how can you work in a team environment?

I agree with teachers not bringing politics to school. At the grade school level, I seriously doubt it's a problem.

i lack those social skills you speak of however i can be part of a team if i am in charge. :D

Most of the students me being one still are very lazy. we don't want to work. at least the ones i know don't want to.