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Quote:"If al-Qaida indeed carried out this act, it is a great victory for it," he said. "It rubbed the noses of the world's eight most powerful countries in the mud."

<a href='http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45221' target='_blank'>Muslim POS "Scholar" Spouts Typical BS</a>


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Someone photoshop a target on this POS's head.


These SOB's are pissed about westerners being in the Middle-East when they are spread out among the 4 corners of the globe speaking their bull**** under the protection of the very countries they insult? Again, until I see thousands and thousands of Muslims stand up in unison and denounce this type of behavior, screw Islam.


...and the reason left-wing liberals aren't trusted to protect this country:

<a href='http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/12/nbbc12.xml' target='_blank'>"Terrorist" nixed for "Bomber" ...gotta be politically correct ya know. </a>

We wouldn't want to offend, oh, let's see, THE SAME EFFIN PEOPLE THAT BOMBED US!!!! DAMN! I feel like I've been taking crazy pills listening to some of this BS. :bang:
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Quote:"If al-Qaida indeed carried out this act, it is a great victory for it," he said. "It rubbed the noses of the world's eight most powerful countries in the mud."
What a moron. If that's the case then the Green River Killer OWNS these guys.

Wow, what a badge of honor, "We committed murder. Haha!".

This obviously isn't a "clash of civilizations"...those folks aren't the least bit civilized. No wonder the left loves them so.
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RebelKev Wrote:DAMN! I feel like I've been taking crazy pills listening to some of this BS.&nbsp; :bang:
I loved that line from Zoolander.

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But the guy is a nut from the article.
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I wouldn't mind seeing a Brit "fail" to tell the difference between a civilian or a military target on this @sshole.

Until I see the masses of "peaceful Muslims" stand up and speak out against this, then I'll keep my assumption that Islam is a hate doctrine. I have little respect or tolerance for Muslims right now.
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SOme have condemed the bombings. One was in our LTTE today of our local paper from the local muslim leader.

<a href='http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/letters_to_editor/article/0,1426,MCA_538_3919457,00.html' target='_blank'>http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/letter...3919457,00.html</a>

Quote:Muslims condemn London attacks

The Muslims in Memphis organization and Muslims all over the world are shocked and horrified at the attacks on the people of London. We join everyone in condemning such acts of terror and senseless violence. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their loved ones. We trust the authorities will determine those responsible for these barbaric acts and bring them to justice quickly.

Islam holds the sanctity of human life at the highest regard, and shedding the blood of innocent people is considered most heinous crime. As Muslims, we condemn the killing of innocent people for any reason. This is an attack on all of us, and all communities of faith need to stand together in calm and resolute purpose against terrorism, hatred and extremism.

We urge the people of England to remain calm. As citizens we also hope innocent people will not be targeted in backlash after this terror attack. Learning from experience after Sept. 11, we also profoundly hope that civil liberties will not be a further casualty of this tragic event, in the Great Britain or around the world.

In the United States, we urge Muslims to remain cautious and in communication with each other and the authorities while continuing their daily work. We ask all citizens to avoid fear and confusion and remain measured in response, and above all, to trust in the mercy of God, all mighty, which will sustain us in the coming days.

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JTiger Wrote:SOme have condemed the bombings.&nbsp; One was in our LTTE today of our local paper from the local muslim leader.

<a href='http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/letters_to_editor/article/0,1426,MCA_538_3919457,00.html' target='_blank'>http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/letter...3919457,00.html</a>

Quote:Muslims condemn London attacks

The Muslims in Memphis organization and Muslims all over the world are shocked and horrified at the attacks on the people of London. We join everyone in condemning such acts of terror and senseless violence. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their loved ones. We trust the authorities will determine those responsible for these barbaric acts and bring them to justice quickly.

Islam holds the sanctity of human life at the highest regard, and shedding the blood of innocent people is considered most heinous crime. As Muslims, we condemn the killing of innocent people for any reason. This is an attack on all of us, and all communities of faith need to stand together in calm and resolute purpose against terrorism, hatred and extremism.

We urge the people of England to remain calm. As citizens we also hope innocent people will not be targeted in backlash after this terror attack. Learning from experience after Sept. 11, we also profoundly hope that civil liberties will not be a further casualty of this tragic event, in the Great Britain or around the world.

In the United States, we urge Muslims to remain cautious and in communication with each other and the authorities while continuing their daily work. We ask all citizens to avoid fear and confusion and remain measured in response, and above all, to trust in the mercy of God, all mighty, which will sustain us in the coming days.

Dr. Nabil A. Bayakly

Chairman, Muslims in Memphis Memphis
I do not believe "Muslims all over the world are shocked and horrified at the attacks".

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Islam holds the sanctity of human life at the highest regard, and shedding the blood of innocent people is considered most heinous crime. As Muslims, we condemn the killing of innocent people for any reason. This is an attack on all of us, and all communities of faith need to stand together in calm and resolute purpose against terrorism, hatred and extremism.


Does this now mean you will go to war with us? Or do you still hold the notion, that all Muslims hold, that it is against Allah to go to war against Muslims with the "infidels". I seem to remember saving millions of sorry-*** Muslim lives in Kosovo and Bosnia-Herzogovina. All for it to come back and bite us in the ***.



...and what's this? A new attack in Israel while they are trying to pull out of Gaza?


The only solution to this is starting a policy of total annihilation. Sooner or later, we will start te see Muslims in unison saying, "Enough is Enough!".

If you guys don't think that is the wish of them, you're naive.
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JTiger Wrote:SOme have condemed the bombings. One was in our LTTE today of our local paper from the local muslim leader.

<a href='http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/letters_to_editor/article/0,1426,MCA_538_3919457,00.html' target='_blank'>http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/letter...3919457,00.html</a>

Quote:Muslims condemn London attacks

The Muslims in Memphis organization and Muslims all over the world are shocked and horrified at the attacks on the people of London. We join everyone in condemning such acts of terror and senseless violence. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their loved ones. We trust the authorities will determine those responsible for these barbaric acts and bring them to justice quickly.

Islam holds the sanctity of human life at the highest regard, and shedding the blood of innocent people is considered most heinous crime. As Muslims, we condemn the killing of innocent people for any reason. This is an attack on all of us, and all communities of faith need to stand together in calm and resolute purpose against terrorism, hatred and extremism.

We urge the people of England to remain calm. As citizens we also hope innocent people will not be targeted in backlash after this terror attack. Learning from experience after Sept. 11, we also profoundly hope that civil liberties will not be a further casualty of this tragic event, in the Great Britain or around the world.

In the United States, we urge Muslims to remain cautious and in communication with each other and the authorities while continuing their daily work. We ask all citizens to avoid fear and confusion and remain measured in response, and above all, to trust in the mercy of God, all mighty, which will sustain us in the coming days.

Dr. Nabil A. Bayakly

Chairman, Muslims in Memphis Memphis
In fairness, we again are at the mercy of what the media will tell us about the response of the Islamic community. I remain highly skeptical of what any news medium reports.

I am grateful that this letter was printed. It does deserve attention.

However, some of it disturbs me as well:

"As citizens we also hope innocent people will not be targeted in backlash after this terror attack. Learning from experience after Sept. 11, we also profoundly hope that civil liberties will not be a further casualty of this tragic event, in the Great Britain or around the world."

Is disturbing. Sure, I like my civil liberties, but I see little, if any, effort to increase the civil liberties in predominantly Muslim countries. You can do more to increase civil liberties in those places than here, but there seems to be virtually no effort.
Furthermore, when I read about lawsuits over "profiling", or immigration restrictions, I see that people are insincere about their committment to eliminating terrorism.

This is amplified by this comment,

"we urge Muslims to remain cautious and in communication with each other and the authorities while continuing their daily work"

This doesn't suggest in the least that Muslims should cooperate w/ governments to end terrorism. Actually, just the OPPOSITE. Be "cautious" in communication, not "be above reproach" or be "innocent". If anything it reads like code...a reminder to terrorists that the heat is high, and lay low for a while.

I would like to believe that this is the work of a few, and I'm willing to look for and at instances that prove it. But, this letter serves the opposite.
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DrTorch Wrote:This is amplified by this comment,

"we urge Muslims to remain cautious and in communication with each other and the authorities while continuing their daily work"

This doesn't suggest in the least that Muslims should cooperate w/ governments to end terrorism. Actually, just the OPPOSITE. Be "cautious" in communication, not "be above reproach" or be "innocent". If anything it reads like code...a reminder to terrorists that the heat is high, and lay low for a while.

I would like to believe that this is the work of a few, and I'm willing to look for and at instances that prove it. But, this letter serves the opposite.
I think this comment was referring to the backlash that non-extremist muslims faced after 9/11. For them not to shrink into the background, but be aware that retribution for the acts of a few may be directed against those that may have had nothing to do with this horrific act.
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DrTorch Wrote:This is amplified by this comment,

"we urge Muslims to remain cautious and in communication with each other and the authorities while continuing their daily work"

This doesn't suggest in the least that Muslims should cooperate w/ governments to end terrorism.&nbsp; Actually, just the OPPOSITE.&nbsp; Be "cautious" in communication, not "be above reproach" or be "innocent".&nbsp; If anything it reads like code...a reminder to terrorists that the heat is high, and lay low for a while.

I would like to believe that this is the work of a few, and I'm willing to look for and at instances that prove it.&nbsp; But, this letter serves the opposite.
I think this comment was referring to the backlash that non-extremist muslims faced after 9/11.
A backlash that never really existed except in the minds of a few.

Check the articles, there were hardly any incidents throughout the country immediately following 9/11. I'm talking 2 or 3, in a country of 290M.

Now since that time the reported cases have been trumped up and the stats show a rise. But, when you look at overall numbers you realize that they just reported recurring incidents in the "hate crime" column in order to spike the stats and create a story.
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I was in college at the time and knew many international students that told me stories of targeting due to thier ethnicity. Most not violent, but a few were. Most of them were christians, but it's not like you wear a badge that states your faith. Many instances went unreported by these students. I don't know about anybody else.
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JTiger Wrote:I was in college at the time and knew many international students that told me stories of targeting due to thier ethnicity.&nbsp; Most not violent, but a few were.&nbsp; Most of them were christians, but it's not like you wear a badge that states your faith.&nbsp; Many instances went unreported by these students.&nbsp; I don't know about anybody else.
There's a difference, you leave Christians alone, they won't mess with you. You leave Muslims alone, and they fly planes into your tallest buildings.

Face it, this fallacy that our support for Israel causes terrorism is bunk. Terrorism is going on all over the world. Terrorism is happening in Indonesia, the Phillippines, the continent of Africa, Europe, Asia, and the United States. They are as likely to get Israel back as we are to stop supporting them. It's a lost cause. Until they get that through their thickass skulls, more and more of them will die.

Their goal is global supremacy. J, you need to wake up to that fact. All over the world we are seeing it and I don't understand WHY left-leaning individuals, the world over, can't see this. Christians from Nigeria, the Sudan, Somalia, and other countries are being slaughtered for being Christian. Mullahs in England are stating that they will not rest until the United Kingdom is an Islamic State. Iran is stating that their goal is to see Israel destroyed. Christians are being slaughtered throughout Indo-China. Here in this country there are Muslims that speak one thing in public, but something totally different when they are among themselves, Sami Al-Arian anyone?

This IS a global war. Their goal is to either make everyone subservient to their religion, or convert. In their minds, an infidel can only live among them if they agree to second-class status. This is not a conspiracy theory, this is fact that has been gathered by their OWN words.

JTiger, there are millions of Muslims that trump the one Muslim you bring up.

Until we, as a CIVILIZED, and no, those effers aren't civilized, stand together as one and declare war on THEIR lifestyle, ours is doomed.

....and today, the BBC is censoring "terrorist". :rolleyes:
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RebelKev Wrote:There's a difference, you leave Christians alone, they won't mess with you.
<a href='http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/archive/1998/01/30/NEWS10104.dtl' target='_blank'>Domestic</a> <a href='http://www.christiangallery.com/aog.html' target='_blank'>terrorism</a> <a href='http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1070517086&type=news' target='_blank'>what?</a>
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RebelKev Wrote:There's a difference, you leave Christians alone, they won't mess with you. You leave Muslims alone, and they fly planes into your tallest buildings.
Hear no evil.






Germany is a Christian nation.
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France is a Christian nation.
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Spain is a Christian nation.
Doesn't anyone remember the spanish inquisition, or that before they showed up there were thriving civilizations in Mexico?

Britain is a Christian nation. They brought America slaves!

Western Europe is Christian. They launched a dozen crusades for the hell of it.

How did Christianity spread? Convert or die! But as long as it's in the name of Jesus, kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out

The belief that one religion has somehow conducted itself better than anyone else in history is part of the dillusion that leads to religion being used as the cause for so much unwanted death.
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cant_think_of_a_witty_name Wrote:
RebelKev Wrote:There's a difference, you leave Christians alone, they won't mess with you.
<a href='http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/archive/1998/01/30/NEWS10104.dtl' target='_blank'>Domestic</a> <a href='http://www.christiangallery.com/aog.html' target='_blank'>terrorism</a> <a href='http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1070517086&type=news' target='_blank'>what?</a>
Yeah, and he's taken seriously. :rolleyes:

Christians stand up to denounce attacks on their religion. The United States, being a majority Christian nation, sends in troops to protect oppressed people.

Name one time when Muslims have send in an army to protect a Christian populace. No? How many mullahs have denounced the murder of Christians in Indonesia? Africa?
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RebelKev Wrote:There's a difference, you leave Christians alone, they won't mess with you. You leave Muslims alone, and they fly planes into your tallest buildings.
Hear no evil.
Get back with me when you can come up with something "recent".

By the way, that little nation that was Germany was defeated by the United States, majority Christian and England, majority Christian.

You just proved my point. Jews were being killed. We went in and liberated them. We have done the SAME damn thing for Muslims in Kosovo and Bosnia-Herzegovina.
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RebelKev Wrote:
cant_think_of_a_witty_name Wrote:
RebelKev Wrote:There's a difference, you leave Christians alone, they won't mess with you.
<a href='http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/archive/1998/01/30/NEWS10104.dtl' target='_blank'>Domestic</a> <a href='http://www.christiangallery.com/aog.html' target='_blank'>terrorism</a> <a href='http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1070517086&type=news' target='_blank'>what?</a>
Yeah, and he's taken seriously. :rolleyes:

Christians stand up to denounce attacks on their religion. The United States, being a majority Christian nation, sends in troops to protect oppressed people.

Name one time when Muslims have send in an army to protect a Christian populace. No? How many mullahs have denounced the murder of Christians in Indonesia? Africa?
Why should anyone send armies in to protect anyone else outside their own borders? Why does everyone have to be everyone's police force and moral judge?
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RebelKev Wrote:There's a difference, you leave Christians alone, they won't mess with you. You leave Muslims alone, and they fly planes into your tallest buildings.
Hear no evil.
Get back with me when you can come up with something "recent".

By the way, that little nation that was Germany was defeated by the United States, majority Christian and England, majority Christian.

You just proved my point. Jews were being killed. We went in and liberated them. We have done the SAME damn thing for Muslims in Kosovo and Bosnia-Herzegovina.
But I thought that if you didn't mess with Christians, they wouldn't hurt you. Or was Germany tired of the opression being placed upon their people by the mighty forces of Poland?
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Let's be honest here. America didn't enter WWII to save the Jews. In fact, America did its best to ignore what was going on half the world away. Germany had to force the US to chip in.
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cant_think_of_a_witty_name Wrote:Let's be honest here. America didn't enter WWII to save the Jews. In fact, America did its best to ignore what was going on half the world away. Germany had to force the US to chip in.
We were in WWII before December 7th, 1941. Just for the record, there were many reasons people enlisted to into the armed forces....saving the lives of the Jews was a reason people joined.
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aerojad Wrote:Why should anyone send armies in to protect anyone else outside their own borders? Why does everyone have to be everyone's police force and moral judge?
So you seriously don't understand the difference in sending help to people that request it and the actions that are being done by Muslim extremists? Well WELCOME back Nate. :rolleyes:
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