You guys will probably lose Troy and North Texas to CUSA one day....so maybe you should make a play for La. tech.....I really don't see any other schools out there that fit in your geographic foot print....

whedbee Wrote:You guys will probably lose Troy and North Texas to CUSA one day....so maybe you should make a play for La. tech.....I really don't see any other schools out there that fit in your geographic foot print....

Not to be a smart @ss but what do we tell La Tech? Hang loose because we may lose Troy and North Texas to C-USA some day?

It's all about dollar bills! Reservations don't mean a thing if there's no vacancies

According to ELO-Ches power rankings, the 2005 Sun Belt is already better than the 2005 CUSA and MAC in football.

According to last seasons Sagarin's (can't find RPI), '05-'06 SBC basketball teams are only 5 points behind '05-'06 CUSA teams.

With the recruiting classes in basketball this year, I think that gap is gonna close in a hurry. It seems like WW might have this ship on the right path to becoming the best non-BCS conference behind Mountain West. Only time will tell. :ninja:

Gakusei Wrote:I think that gap is gonna close in a hurry.

When CUSA's best teams leave next season or year after for the Atlantic 10 and Big East, their quality will be drastically diminished. I'm sure they will be trying to raid other conferences, but there will be less reason for teams to leave to go there. I really like what SBC has done in positioning itself.

whedbee Wrote:You guys will probably lose Troy and North Texas to CUSA one day....so maybe you should make a play for La. tech.....I really don't see any other schools out there that fit in your geographic foot print....

<span style='font-family:Times'><span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:blue'>Hmmmm. . . . .I smell the stench of David Krysakowski. Anyone else here smell that same stench??</span></span></span>

whedbee Wrote:You guys will probably lose Troy and North Texas to CUSA one day....so maybe you should make a play for La. tech.....I really don't see any other schools out there that fit in your geographic foot print....

:snore:

whedbee Wrote:You guys will probably lose Troy and North Texas to CUSA one day....so maybe you should make a play for La. tech.....I really don't see any other schools out there that fit in your geographic foot print....

CUSA is not what it used to be and the SBC is improving quickly! Loser Tech will come to their senses soon enough.

Go SBC Football!!!

Why do people love to start crap? Man leave us alone and worry about your own conference.

The SBC needs to add Texas State at some point. Long term it would be a good addition.

TopCoog Wrote:The SBC needs to add Texas State at some point. Long term it would be a good addition.

Many of us SBC fans agree with you, but Texas State has not yet shown an interest in moving up. We are also interested in Western Kentucky moving up; there are indications they are heading to 1-A. Adding Texas State and Western Kentucky would be good for the SBC's long-term future.

Go SBC Football!!!

The SunBelt is just where Troy needs to be. It is an excellent geographical fit. I can travel to all the away games in football (Starting next year) and to lots of basketball and baseball games. I'd love to see some schools leave CUSA and come over like UAB and Southern Miss but as long as they have more bowl tie-ins that won't happen. But who knows what it will look like five years from now. CUSA spends a ton of money on travel and that eats into your budget.

Texas State-San Marcos would be a poor addition to the SBC. They don't bring anything in football or basketball. I'm much more interested in WKU moving their football program to 1A to give us 9 football members.

Gakusei Wrote:Texas State-San Marcos would be a poor addition to the SBC. They don't bring anything in football or basketball. I'm much more interested in WKU moving their football program to 1A to give us 9 football members.

Texas state has what most 1-AA's don't. Potential for growth.

I'm talking about in terms of resources, enrollment, location, etc.

Trust me. The door is open for them if they ever get their house in order. They have a new president.

The SBC needs more than potential (which TS-SM doesn't have), it needs schools like FAU and FIU that can make an instant impact. On top of that, TS-SM is located 30 miles from UT-Austin in a town of 35,000 (as of 2000), and because of that, doesn't draw well attendance-wise.

Again, TS-SM is a poor choice.

Gakusei Wrote:The SBC needs more than potential (which TS-SM doesn't have), it needs schools like FAU and FIU that can make an instant impact. On top of that, TS-SM is located 30 miles from UT-Austin in a town of 35,000 (as of 2000), and because of that, doesn't draw well attendance-wise.

Again, TS-SM is a poor choice.

We are not in a position to be real choosy. Maybe in a few years.

I seem to remember a LOT of people on your board having a hissy fit when it was announced we were adding FAU and FIU.

It's probably a moot point anyway. It's a good bet that La Tech will be coming back, and WKY will be going 1-A.

From what I hear, TSU's finances were really wrecked by the previous administration. They were making plans for a jump. Obviously, they have had to regroup.

If the SBC is raided by CUSA in the future, it will be schools like Texas State that will fill the void.

The SBC will never go away. Both of our Universities may not be in it, but the SBC will survive.

Quote:We are not in a position to be real choosy. Maybe in a few&nbsp; years.

We are in a position to be choosy. That's why we didn't take FAMU.

Quote:I seem to remember a LOT of people on your board having a hissy fit when it was announced we were adding FAU and FIU.

Could be. I wasn't one of them.

Quote:If the SBC is raided by CUSA in the future, it will be schools like Texas State that will fill the void.

The SBC will never go away. Both of our Universities may not be in it, but the SBC will survive.

My HSO is that the Belt will be the one doing the raiding next time.

Now you've got a CUSA that stretches from El Paso, TX to BFE, West Virginia. They brought in the deadweight program of SMU, and an ailing Rice program. Their hoops got horribly crunched in this realignment, and their football, as a conference, will most likely join the MAC behind the Sun Belt. Memphis wants out in the worst way, and UTEP would jump to the MWC faster than you can say illegal alien.

CUSA had the opportunity to create a tight, regional non-BCS conference like the MAC or new Sun Belt (Denver excepted), but they chose not to. For that decision, they'll be ripped to shreads by at least 3 different conferences in the next realignment, imo.

Gakusei Wrote:

Quote:We are not in a position to be real choosy. Maybe in a few  years.

We are in a position to be choosy. That's why we didn't take FAMU.

Quote:I seem to remember a LOT of people on your board having a hissy fit when it was announced we were adding FAU and FIU.

Could be. I wasn't one of them.

Quote:If the SBC is raided by CUSA in the future, it will be schools like Texas State that will fill the void.

The SBC will never go away. Both of our Universities may not be in it, but the SBC will survive.

My HSO is that the Belt will be the one doing the raiding next time.

Now you've got a CUSA that stretches from El Paso, TX to BFE, West Virginia. They brought in the deadweight program of SMU, and an ailing Rice program. Their hoops got horribly crunched in this realignment, and their football, as a conference, will most likely join the MAC behind the Sun Belt. Memphis wants out in the worst way, and UTEP would jump to the MWC faster than you can say illegal alien.

CUSA had the opportunity to create a tight, regional non-BCS conference like the MAC or new Sun Belt (Denver excepted), but they chose not to. For that decision, they'll be ripped to shreads by at least 3 different conferences in the next realignment, imo.

I knew if we kept talking we would find some common ground.

I share your realignment views. Memphis is all but gone. I think, of all the teams in CUSA, that they will try to drag USM and UAB along with them. Who knows what the Big East will do. Marshall seems to be a fit although they just might look down their noses at the Herd. UCF has money and market. They might sneak in.

UTEP would kill to get in the MWC. Houston should jump at the chance. It's the smart move. There is no future at SMU, Tulsa, or Rice.

Gakusei,

There is only one real problem with the scenario of the SBC possibly taking from CUSA or CUSA being in a weak position the next time realignment comes around. That is TV/BCS money and Bowl bids. It doesn't matter if the news CUSA is at the bottom of the SAG and RPI ratings for the next 10 years, if they still have the most number of Bowl bids and have more money than the SBC then they'll be able to pick and choose who they want from the SBC, WAC, or MAC. Now granted, if it is a long while before the BE makes a move and the new CUSA truly sucks then the likelihood of them keeping those bowl tie ins and getting more BCS/TV money is very unlikely. If conference realignments are just 2 years away then ........ :frown:

Oh of course. If the next round of realignments are only two years away, CUSA will still be in a position of power.

I'm talking 5-10 years from now, when CUSA's contract has been readjusted for the loss of the basketball schools, and the MAC/SBC/MWC start to work their way into current CUSA bowls.

Of course this is just my opinion on the future, and everyone knows what that's worth.

I'm really hoping that the current SBC schools stay together to build a strong conference that out-muscles the new hodge-podge CUSA, but who knows what'll happen.

rideOrDieTop Wrote:Gakusei,

There is only one real problem with the scenario of the SBC possibly taking from CUSA or CUSA being in a weak position the next time realignment comes around. That is TV/BCS money and Bowl bids. It doesn't matter if the news CUSA is at the bottom of the SAG and RPI ratings for the next 10 years, if they still have the most number of Bowl bids and have more money than the SBC then they'll be able to pick and choose who they want from the SBC, WAC, or MAC. Now granted, if it is a long while before the BE makes a move and the new CUSA truly sucks then the likelihood of them keeping those bowl tie ins and getting more BCS/TV money is very unlikely. If conference realignments are just 2 years away then ........ :frown:

no offense guys, but these are some really far fetched ideas here