(01-07-2018 02:50 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  All fair points. At the end of the day I just want the best teams. Eye test or not, Alabama belongs, and showed they belong. Not Ohio State, not Penn State, not Wisconsin. Alabama is simply better than the rest that got left out, "fairness" and "deservedness" be damned. Alabama will likely win it all. Are we still going to complain that Ohio State or Wisconsin didn't get in? I can sympathize with UCF fans, but they are not one of the Top 4 and should not get in just because they went undefeated.

In hindsight, I don't necessarily have a problem with championships deciding playoffs, because there's not a lot of other data. I just think from a purely philosophical viewpoint it seems flawed. Alabama is just better than the rest. They play a 12 game season and lost one game, a rivalry game, vs a red hot Auburn team. All the other games didn't matter? That's not how it works when judging who is the best team in a college football season. You guys are confusing fairness and deservedness, with who is actually the best.

I'd like to see an 8 team playoff, but nothing beyond that. That would solve some of the G5 complaining. It's possible in some years a lower seed is actually the best team. I get it, everyone wants a chance. I'd be curious to see how often an 8 seed, or a 16 seed, in a playoff format has won it all. You can argue principle of fairness and inclusion, and I'll argue the practical nature of whether they belong in a playoff by looking at the percentage that lower seeded teams actually win the whole thing. I'd gather it's relatively low because they get the Top 4 or 5 teams right.

But they didn't beat anyone of value. So how do you know they are the best. You are biased for Alabama. I look at that schedule, compare it to Wisconsin and think the Badgers got screwed. I think UCF's schedule was only slightly less daunting than Alabama. We could argue this all day long. And that's the point. Without some objective facts, it doesn't matter.

Going at it from a Troy angle, your men's basketball team was crap last year, but just played better when it mattered. UTA was clearly the better team. We didn't win when it mattered. Using your logic, you should not have played in the NCAA tourney, as four to five teams were CLEARLY better than Troy. But you guys won when you were supposed to and got in. That's what we are all arguing for in FBS.

By the SEC's own measure, Alabama was not the best team in its division. Should be end of statement.