(12-23-2017 07:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:50 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:32 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:11 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  You know I am convinced. We need to invite Liberty to our conference if for no other reason except maybe Tom would find something else for entertainment. Dude you are a wasted space and I think if you weren't gay you still would be. Wow bet you would be a blast a party. If you guys would promise not to quote him we could all put him on ignore and we could go back to slamming each other's football teams. That's what this site is for right?

Again, isn't that what Liberty supporters are all about? Banning LGBT people from existing in any meaningful way? Seems to me that would be a lot like your Athletic Departments. BTW, I think Ark State's AD is probably a bit too smart than to schedule Liberty. I figured Troy would be number 1 and Georgia Southern I suspected would take the bait.

Pretty easy to get us to STFU....stop making us pay for it. Then you can continue to run FBS athletics as your personal preserve without any input from us.

You have every right to speak. It's just that this is not the right forum. Sports are why we are here. Of course like I said I think you just like to *****. I never root against an SBC team OOC. When your team plays Liberty I will be saying "Go Flames!!" Aren't you glad your speech can have an effect on someone. Bye...tired of this and you.

Again, I seriously doubt you'll ever get the opportunity to say "Go Flames" versus USA, unless we're playing Illinois Chicago in basketball.

A question for you, does Arkansas State charge a student fee for athletics system wide or simply to the 14k students in Jonesboro? Trying to figure out the exact student subsidy for a 4 year degree to cover athletics there. Before you get all upset about feedback, remember that almost a grand per year per student at your Jonesboro campus is used not for academics, not for general student activities, but to support athletics. Its unreasonable to expect groups to be excluded from the benefits of that funding without complaint forever.

There are things that you guys could do, that don't really cost a lot of money, that could be helpful to get more of the funders of your program on board with the benefits of it. Not playing Liberty would be one thing. Actually meeting with various student groups that aren't engaged in your athletic program would be another. Neither costs money and could save untold grief down the road.

Does Arkansas State charge over 8 grand in fees for a 4 year degree (in state)? Is over half of that to cover athletic deficits? My guess is that Arkansas State uses taxpayer funds to cover some of their deficit, especially for scholarships, but if you take the allocation and apply it over 4 years to the Jonesboro campus only..I'm getting a truly large number here. And Arkansas State's subsidy numbers are actually better than anyone else's.

Dude...we have an absolute ton of people on our campus who absolutely hate that they spend money every year that goes to finance our Athletic Department. Problem is, 95 percent of those people are Razorback fans, so we've made it very clear we don't care what they think and they are welcome to transfer if they don't like it.

We'd love to attract students who don't come to games to our events more, but the general thing is that the odds they show up at all are next to nil, so we don't really bother.

The thing we do, is we make sure that students get equal opportunity when it comes to something their fees pay for. They get access to things like our indoor practice facility, press box, and other athletic areas if they need them for student events, because they pay a small amount of money to finance our Athletic Department each semester. If they still don't like it, tough cookies, go somewhere else.